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TimJab
12/18/11 8:26:00 PM
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it finally happened

it doesn't matter how we got there

**** JUST GOT REAL

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Achromatic
12/18/11 8:27:00 PM
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they are going to ****over the body.

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CherryCokes
12/18/11 8:29:00 PM
#3:


starting this now

not reading either of your posts

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TimJab
12/18/11 9:07:00 PM
#4:


watch it cokes!

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KimPine
12/18/11 9:13:00 PM
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I say we take this scene, edit it into last season's finale and forget this season ever happened. It's what we've all been asking for.
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CherryCokes
12/18/11 9:17:00 PM
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jesus what lazy goddamned writing

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CherryCokes
12/18/11 9:33:00 PM
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From: KimPine | #005
I say we take this scene, edit it into last season's finale and forget this season ever happened. It's what we've all been asking for.


do you have an avclub account

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TimJab
12/18/11 9:33:00 PM
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From: CherryCokes | #006
jesus what lazy goddamned writing


From: TimJab | #001
it doesn't matter how we got there


ignore the fact that deb sent a lab geek (her brother no less) to collect evidence by himself in a secluded building that served as the hideout for a serial killer. doesn't matter. she saw him.

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TimJab
12/18/11 9:34:00 PM
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and ignore the fact that dexter was stranded in the middle of the ocean the same day the lake of fire thing happened

miami metro sure did

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KimPine
12/18/11 9:38:00 PM
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I'm more concerned about how Travis was able to walk around busy streets in broad daylight with a child dressed as a lion and carrying a basket.
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KimPine
12/18/11 9:39:00 PM
#11:


From: CherryCokes | #007
do you have an avclub account


No, why?
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CherryCokes
12/18/11 9:40:00 PM
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Someone just commented on the review with almost the same exact same thing you just said here

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KimPine
12/18/11 9:44:00 PM
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I don't frequent there often but the site and I generally see eye to eye. Their love for Community is heartwarming in these dark times.

Not that this is a plug for Community or anything.
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CherryCokes
12/18/11 10:03:00 PM
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From: TimJab | #008
ignore the fact that deb sent a lab geek (her brother no less) to collect evidence by himself in a secluded building that served as the hideout for a serial killer. doesn't matter. she saw him.


problems with this episode

nothing happened for 45+ minutes; the harrison kidnapping was entirely contrived - no one watching thought harrison was in any real danger

travis and miami metro have a relationship that can best be described as "iSketch"

dexter lost his boat the same night that there was a RING OF FIRE on the ocean and no one thinks twice

no one died except travis. not even jamie, who probably should have.

laguerta, quinn and louis storylines are comfortably reset to status quo / shoved under the rug

dexter escaped from a skyscraper with a child in a lion costume and an unconscious man wrapped in blankets without anyone noticing

no one went into the crime scene before dexter (god, this scene was so f***ing awful. absolutely horses***)

i could probably go on but i won't

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TimJab
12/18/11 10:05:00 PM
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From: CherryCokes | #014
not even jamie, who probably should have.


YOU SON OF A *****

but yeah the "we were waiting for you dexter" at the crime scene was hilariously bad

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CherryCokes
12/18/11 11:00:00 PM
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From: TimJab | #015
YOU SON OF A *****

but yeah the "we were waiting for you dexter" at the crime scene was hilariously bad


she's a fine piece of ass, but really? make us feel that someone is in genuine danger

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Ryo8889
12/19/11 3:46:00 AM
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I think Dexter is just gonna tell Deb that Travis actually took Harrison as his sacrifice and Dex found out and then decided to kill him...or something.
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red13n
12/19/11 3:53:00 AM
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No plotline payoff on anything but Travis.

Ouch.

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nintendogirl1
12/19/11 4:36:00 AM
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5 minutes from the end. Haven't read the topic yet.

OMG, Deb is going to the Church isn't she.

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nintendogirl1
12/19/11 4:41:00 AM
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Yessssss.

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kevwaffles
12/19/11 5:34:00 AM
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From: Ryo8889 | #017
I think Dexter is just gonna tell Deb that Travis actually took Harrison as his sacrifice and Dex found out and then decided to kill him...or something.


Most people wouldn't wrap him in plastic and ritualistically murder him though. They'd just kind of shoot him and be done with it.

Not to mention that Deb really should recognize this MO, if not immediately then eventually. Though 50:50 odds the writers will ignore that fact.

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CherryCokes
12/19/11 8:35:00 AM
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From: kevwaffles | #021
The problem there is that Season 5 still happened, which was even worse than this one.


you're such a joker

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Coffee Ninja
12/19/11 9:26:00 AM
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CherryCokes posted...
From: TimJab | #008
laguerta, quinn and louis storylines are comfortably reset to status quo / shoved under the rug




I think Quinn's is still going, Batista wasnt happt about Quinn going the alchoholic route, so we'll see....

as for Louis, his story will return, it HAS to, I mean even Dexter writers can't ignore his story. We SHOULD have had some more closure on him tho, at least let us know what hes up to or something.

Laguerta? Meh who cares. The less of her the better.



I assume Dex will say its his first kill, because like someone said. He's mad cause Travis took Harrison. Dexter could use some excuse that Travis was mad about him stopping Wormwood.....Dexter was labeled a hero in the papers or something right?

Just...hopefully Deb doesnt believe that, cause she SHOULD be able to connect the dots now.


That said

4 > 1 > 2 > 3 > 6 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5


but if we just rank the main villians?


4 > 1 > 5 > 6 > 2 (Lila I guess?) > 3

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KingButz
12/19/11 9:45:00 AM
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I always considered Doakes to be the villain of S2

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KimPine
12/19/11 9:47:00 AM
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From: kevwaffles | #021
The problem there is that Season 5 still happened, which was even worse than this one.


Hahaha, S5 is like a Godsend compared to this trash. It's incredibly stupid that they can not deliver on a finale and people call the entire season terrible and then close an awful season on a good reveal and everybody says that the season was great.
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KimPine
12/19/11 9:48:00 AM
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Life is the villain of S2.
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GANON1025
12/19/11 10:03:00 AM
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First off, season 5 is the worst because literally nothing happened in it. You could go from 4 to 6 and not miss anything. That's bad. Its finale was also worse, which is saying something because THIS finale was awful. But it least it went through with its plotlines, not bend itself backwards to completely undo everything in the span of 15 minutes.

"Miami Metro Homicide is an elite crew", oh Masuka, always with the jokes. You're talking to the guy who is better than everyone in this office because of his magical hacking/general knowledge of internet abilities. Except maybe for dexter and new black cop.

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CherryCokes
12/19/11 10:07:00 AM
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Season 5 had a unique approach, the main villain was pretty much publicly known early on, but was so well-guarded that it took the entire season to unravel him. It didn't always work, but 5 was very well-paced and usually fairly engrossing. Sure, they essentially retconned Astor and Cody and Lumen out of the show, but I take little issue with those things - the kids were f***ing awful to begin with. Astor was no Sally Draper.

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Coffee Ninja
12/19/11 10:07:00 AM
#29:


KingButz posted...
I always considered Doakes to be the villain of S2

In that case, he hecomes like #2, behind Trinity.


I put Travis ahead of The Skinner, cause idk...The Skinner was just do damn forgettable...I dont even remember what he looked like, and can only remember 1 kill of his. That little kid.

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GANON1025
12/19/11 10:12:00 AM
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Chickey Hines is more memorable than the skinner.

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KimPine
12/19/11 10:12:00 AM
#31:


Are you really acting like Miguel Prado was not the villain for S3?
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CherryCokes
12/19/11 10:23:00 AM
#32:


From: KimPine | #031
Are you really acting like Miguel Prado was not the villain for S3?


Antagonist, yes, villain, only for about two episodes.

And the Skinner was a great villain imo. Very understated.

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kevwaffles
12/19/11 10:31:00 AM
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From: KimPine | #025
It's incredibly stupid that they can not deliver on a finale and people call the entire season terrible


You're acting like people didn't start hating S5 way before the finale. Which is totally not the case. Lumen alone drew a ridiculous amount of complaints throughout.

From: GANON1025 | #027
You could go from 4 to 6 and not miss anything.


Not entirely true. You still need the aftermath to S4's cliffhanger in there for S6 to make sense. Otherwise, you are literally ignoring that plot thread. But as for anything new in S5 though, you are pretty much correct.

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blindhobo13
12/19/11 10:33:00 AM
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Damn it now I'm actually excited for next season!
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kevwaffles
12/19/11 10:33:00 AM
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And complain about how lazy the writing was this season all you want, none of it was as bad as psychic Deb in S5. Well, except maybe for the illegal/magical computer programming, but that wasn't nearly as prominent.

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CherryCokes
12/19/11 10:34:00 AM
#36:


hey guys

remember liddy

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blindhobo13
12/19/11 10:35:00 AM
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From: Achromatic | #002
they are going to ****over the body.


This would be glorious.
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Coffee Ninja
12/19/11 10:38:00 AM
#38:


CherryCokes posted...
hey guys

remember liddy


sadly yes. more proof in my eyes why S5 was so bad.

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CherryCokes
12/19/11 10:47:00 AM
#39:


From: Coffee Ninja | #038
CherryCokes posted...
hey guys

remember liddy


sadly yes. more proof in my eyes why S5 was so bad.


actually it contributes just as much to season 6's awfulness as season 5, if you think about it

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kevwaffles
12/19/11 10:50:00 AM
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From: CherryCokes | #039
actually it contributes just as much to season 6's awfulness as season 5, if you think about it


No, he really doesn't. He was already made completely irrelevant by the end of the S5 finale.

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blindhobo13
12/19/11 10:51:00 AM
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From: CherryCokes | #036
hey guys

remember liddy


Literally did not remember who this guy was and thought it was a misspelling of Lundy until I looked him up.
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kevwaffles
12/19/11 10:52:00 AM
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From: blindhobo13 | #041
Literally did not remember who this guy was and thought it was a misspelling of Lundy until I looked him up.


Yeah, same here.

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TimJab
12/19/11 11:13:00 AM
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i don't think dexter can talk his way out of this one

if he had to, i'd say "i was here collecting evidence and travis showed up and attacked me. we fought, i knocked him out, and then tied him up." that's where his story hits a snag though, since it's where he should have called the police rather than stabbing him in the chest. dexter ****ed up by making things personal with travis. i think it was clear we were heading down this path during deb's shrink sessions and her breakdown on the rooftop. she wanted to catch travis before he finished his killings and disappeared. they were under the impression that travis had made his sacrifice (the police officer) and disappeared forever and that's what caused her to lose it. if dexter kills travis and dumps him in the ocean, then that's exactly what happened in the eyes of everyone but dexter. dexter would have basically cut deb's throat (or at least her career's throat). deb HAD to walk in on the killing, there was pretty much no other way to go.

will deb really recognize the MO? i was trying to think of any dexter kill scenes she had seen. jordan chase i guess? i guess that ties dexter to the murders of all his buddies. i wonder if she'll remember lumen. either way, i think the chickens are coming home to roost for dexter. deb will know, the thing is, will she tell anybody?

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red13n
12/19/11 11:40:00 AM
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. deb will know, the thing is, will she tell anybody?

2 seasons. Not a chance in hell.

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OmegaRagnarok
12/19/11 11:55:00 AM
#45:


TimJab posted...
will deb really recognize the MO? i was trying to think of any dexter kill scenes she had seen.

She would recognize it as Brian Moser, right? Didn't he do the same thing to her in the first season?

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TimJab
12/19/11 2:18:00 PM
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ah yes i forgot about that

but that doesn't tie dexter to any other murders

did they ever come to a determination that the bay harbor butcher victims were killed in that manner? they should have been able to figure out that they were killed with a stab to the chest and probably that they were bound, but i don't know if they ever did since they were in pieces and rotting at the bottom of the ocean.

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TheArkOfTurus
12/19/11 2:47:00 PM
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Excuse me, Liddy and his old PI tricks owned. Not that they used him well, but I enjoyed the character more than any part of the season 6 cast.

At least Homeland is really good. Hope everyone who watched Dexter watched that.

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AsurasKordoth
12/19/11 7:39:00 PM
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From: TimJab | #046
did they ever come to a determination that the bay harbor butcher victims were killed in that manner? they should have been able to figure out that they were killed with a stab to the chest and probably that they were bound, but i don't know if they ever did since they were in pieces and rotting at the bottom of the ocean.


I think Lundy mentioned or suspected the saran wrap angle based on markings on the body or something. Haven't done a rewatch in a few years so I might be wrong. And I doubt she will figure out he is BHB but the Brian Moser and Jordan Chase parts... maybe.

I also came in here to b**** about the ridiculously bad writing this season but Cokes summed it up pretty well. Seriously, Dexter and Travis are just running around kidnapping/killing people and moving their bodies and nobody ****ing notices ever apparently. Season 5 is leagues above Season 6 if only for the fact that it did not require a ridiculous amount of suspension of disbelief to view.

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GANON1025
12/20/11 6:58:00 AM
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Nobody remembering my character, it's an old PI trick.

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GANON1025
12/20/11 6:59:00 AM
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I guess season 5 also brought us The Best Blowjobs In Miami too. I suppose it wasn't all bad.

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