Board 8 > Ignoring Vaan and Penelo, FFXII might be my favorite in the series...

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rocket157
12/18/11 11:18:00 AM
#1:


I'm even able to forgive them as being main characters. Honestly, they're just kinda there for the trip. Besides, Balthier is the leading man, anyway - not Vaan.

I think my only real beef with the game is the questionable issues with the License System. I thought it was cool idea with spells and abilities, but with items, it just seems rather bogus. This sums it up, I feel: http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=214


*blastin' off, yo*

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Princess Anri
12/18/11 11:21:00 AM
#2:


Penelo is my favorite FFXII character :(

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LeonhartFour
12/18/11 11:22:00 AM
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The Bunansa family is the only reason to play FFXII.

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AppIekidjosh
12/18/11 11:22:00 AM
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I wanted to love Penelo since I love Genki girls, but she barely did it for me. She's no Yuffie, or Selphie, or Rikku



holy crap I think I just discovered why I don't like FF9

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LeonhartFour
12/18/11 11:24:00 AM
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From: AppIekidjosh | #004
holy crap I think I just discovered why I don't like FF9


You've got Eiko!

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AppIekidjosh
12/18/11 11:25:00 AM
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she's too loli not enough genki

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rocket157
12/18/11 11:26:00 AM
#7:


Princess Anri posted...
Penelo is my favorite FFXII character :(

Why? And I don't mean that in some snobby way; I just think that she's no more than a plot device, and doesn't really offer much to anything. I'm curious to hear her finer points.

I think she's a good mage, but I can't really remember - it's been a while since I've played it.


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metaIslugg
12/18/11 11:27:00 AM
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there's never 'too loli'

that's not a thing

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AppIekidjosh
12/18/11 11:27:00 AM
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From: metaIslugg | #008
there's never 'too loli'

that's not a thing


the doujins I've seen... :<

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metaIslugg
12/18/11 11:27:00 AM
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From: rocket157 | #007
and doesn't really offer much to anything


what do you mean? her ass is fantastic

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CrimsonOcean
12/18/11 11:28:00 AM
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I used to like to equip Penelo with a gun. It made me smile.

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RevolverSaro
12/18/11 12:02:00 PM
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tagin' dis.

I love FF12 too!

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BlackDra90n
12/18/11 12:04:00 PM
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Well aside from Vaan and Penelo, I still didn't like how combat was like automatic >_>

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RevolverSaro
12/18/11 12:07:00 PM
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CrimsonOcean posted...
I used to like to equip Penelo with a gun. It made me smile.

Hahha, yeah! She's like, nearly get knocked off balance. Best gun animation

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Inviso
12/18/11 12:12:00 PM
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FF12 is the best PS2 Final Fantasy.

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AntonSaidWhat
12/18/11 12:40:00 PM
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Hmmmm, weird... My fav FFXII characters are Vaan, Penelo and Balthier.
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metaIslugg
12/18/11 4:10:00 PM
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this, best song in the game imo

play it with rainy mood

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OmarsComin
12/18/11 4:13:00 PM
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I think it's my second least favorite in the series. I like 13 less.
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Lieutenant Kettch
12/18/11 4:19:00 PM
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I enjoyed the game a lot. Until it ended all of a sudden. It felt like half a game, I was all excited to go explore that second continent that got introduced in like the last hour. So disappointing.

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TomNook7
12/18/11 4:19:00 PM
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FF12 sucks

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GuessMyUserName
12/18/11 4:28:00 PM
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FF12's a good game, yeah

Ashe/Basch/Balthier are all great

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Panthera
12/18/11 4:32:00 PM
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I'll take Penelo being inoffensively minor over any number of more prominent but infinitely more annoying characters (see: cast of FFVIII)

FFXII is my favourite game in the series, also.

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LeonhartFour
12/18/11 5:28:00 PM
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From: Panthera | #022
I'll take Penelo being inoffensively minor over any number of more prominent but infinitely more annoying characters (see: cast of FFVIII)

FFXII is my favourite game in the series, also.


FFVIII cast the best

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most_games_r_ok
12/18/11 5:29:00 PM
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FFIX cast the best

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LeonhartFour
12/18/11 5:31:00 PM
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If FFIX's cast consisted only of Zidane, Vivi, Steiner, and Dagger, you might have a case!

Unfortunately, the other half of the cast exists.

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AntonSaidWhat
12/18/11 5:32:00 PM
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most_games_r_ok posted...
FFIX cast the best

^ 200% Agreed.
Second best cast of characters is FFX.
And worse? FFVIII... Selphie, Zell, Irvine... no comments.
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AntonSaidWhat
12/18/11 5:35:00 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
If FFIX's cast consisted only of Zidane, Vivi, Steiner, and Dagger, you might have a case!

Unfortunately, the other half of the cast exists.


Eiko, Amarant and Freya are wonderful characters. The only one that's so so is Quina, but still, Unique in every way.
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LeonhartFour
12/18/11 5:38:00 PM
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From: AntonSaidWhat | #027
Eiko, Amarant and Freya are wonderful characters.


This guy

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AntonSaidWhat
12/18/11 5:39:00 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
From: AntonSaidWhat | #027
Eiko, Amarant and Freya are wonderful characters.
This guy


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Grand Kirby
12/18/11 5:47:00 PM
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Amarant is barely a character at all.

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Forceful_Dragon
12/18/11 5:47:00 PM
#31:


I enjoy FFXII


It isn't on VIII or X tier, but it is an enjoyable game to play. It just depends on what you're in the mood for.

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OmarsComin
12/19/11 12:21:00 PM
#32:


If FFIX's cast consisted only of Zidane, Vivi, Steiner, and Dagger, you might have a case!

Unfortunately, the other half of the cast exists.


quoted for truth and correctness

if it was just those four it would be the second best cast in an FF game, behind X. of the rest of the characters, I guess Freya is the least offensive. Eiko and Amarant no thanks.
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SomeKindOfJoke
12/19/11 12:41:00 PM
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FFIX's entire first disc is just fantastic all around. Too bad Disc 3 is an abomination.

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ZFS
12/19/11 12:47:00 PM
#34:


Those four are the only characters that matter in FFIX, anyway. The rest of the cast is forgettable enough that it doesn't matter!

FFXII's cast is good. Vaan sucks, but everyone else is pretty good.

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LeonhartFour
12/19/11 4:27:00 PM
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FFXII has the same problem as FFIX. Half the cast ranges from great to good, and the other half ranges from "who cares" to "why do you exist"

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thundersheep
12/19/11 4:33:00 PM
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FF12 would be an incredible game without Vaan and Penelo. Ashe is one of my favourite leads in the series and the others are all great as well. If the game was just as long with more development on the remaining characters, it could have been a top-tier game for me. I loved the battle system, and it's just a shame that the narrative didn't do much for me.

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Weakupedia
12/19/11 4:33:00 PM
#37:


FFXII IZJS second best FF oh yes

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TheRock1525
12/19/11 4:36:00 PM
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Woo FFXII love, best topics.

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RevolverSaro
12/19/11 4:38:00 PM
#39:


thundersheep posted...
FF12 would be an incredible game without Vaan and Penelo. Ashe is one of my favourite leads in the series and the others are all great as well. If the game was just as long with more development on the remaining characters, it could have been a top-tier game for me. I loved the battle system, and it's just a shame that the narrative didn't do much for me.

Oh come on, Vaan and Penelo aren't that bad. At the worst, you might say they are "inoffensively minor". They're not annoying.

I find Penelo to be cute.

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thundersheep
12/19/11 7:54:00 PM
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From: RevolverSaro | #039
Oh come on, Vaan and Penelo aren't that bad. At the worst, you might say they are "inoffensively minor". They're not annoying.

I find Penelo to be cute.


They're not bad, I just meant that they don't add anything to the game for me. Penelo is nice to look at yeah, but I can't honestly say I find her as interesting as any other party member in that game, or 95% of your party members in the series. I think that if the game focused on having significant development on a smaller cast, it could have been truly great. I mean the entire game until you find Ashe did not even need to exist. Give me Ashe, Basch, Balthier and Fran, make the game hard as **** (keep gambit options the same, just harder encounters), and let me have all 4 characters in my party with random witty dialogue between the group.

Best game in the series imo, or damn near it.

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skull_bonek23
12/19/11 7:58:00 PM
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My problem with XII was the lack of a good villain. Vayne is lol and Cid just feels completely underwhelming. Also the license board was f***ing awful.

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metaIslugg
12/20/11 5:59:00 AM
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In the same way XII didn't have a good villain, neither did FFT or TO. You could argue Vagrant Story did with Losstarot but it's still a stretch. That's just how Matsuno makes his games though, not with an all-powerful evil murderer, but with a battle of conflicting ideals spanning severals.

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Cresset
12/20/11 6:40:00 AM
#43:


BlackDra90n posted...
Well aside from Vaan and Penelo, I still didn't like how combat was like automatic >_>

It wasn't...you're not forced to use the gambit system. I just turned it off when facing tougher enemies, and turned it on when waddling through trash I'd steamroll with minimal strategy anyway.

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AnonGE007
12/20/11 6:51:00 AM
#44:


Hey Buckethead! Hello!?


FF12 <3

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