Board 8 > Tombolo plays some GRISSING UMINEKO **** YEAR *spoilers*

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Tom Bombadil
12/17/11 8:40:00 PM
#1:


Episode 8 is finally out and it is time to put this bad boy to rest!....assuming I can get it working, which is never a safe assumption, I've learned. While I wait on things, a few thoughts.

-I skipped the partial patch. Figured it would make the wait that much harder to stop halfway.
-Please no spoilers, not even vague ones. I'm beggin' ya. On the other hand, I will obviously be spoiling stuff as I get there >_>
-I have heard mixed reviews at best. I've heard it was horrible, but some people seemed to have liked it okay. Not too auspicious, but I've yet to be let down by this game.
-Apparently there are choices now at some point?
-Shkannon seems painfully obvious even to me, but I figure if something is painfully obvious to ME, it might just be indicative of a swerve coming. >_> I kinda hope so.
-If Battler and Beato don't both get to be awesome by the end of this ep, I am going to cry. Will's cool and all but I am tired of Battler being incompetent and Beato being un-beato-y.
-A pic of me cosplaying Hideyoshi would go here if I was patient enough to dig it up

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Tom Bombadil
12/17/11 8:43:00 PM
#2:


oh apparently multiple endings

I guess I kinda assumed that since I know there are choices now but still that is weird and knowing it for a fact is weirder

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Raka_Putra
12/17/11 8:44:00 PM
#3:


Wow, Hideyoshi cosplay! You beat me to it.

Also, where did you get your EP8?

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Tom Bombadil
12/17/11 8:46:00 PM
#4:


Anybody who can read moonspeak hanging around?

also AIM is pretty cool imo

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Tom Bombadil
12/17/11 9:05:00 PM
#5:


that was remarkably painless

time to play the gaaaaaaaaaaaame

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Mega Mana
12/17/11 9:13:00 PM
#6:


tag

tag tag tag tag

I hate to spoil myself, but UMINEKO YESSS!

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tcaz2
12/17/11 10:01:00 PM
#7:


From: Tom Bombadil | #001
-I have heard mixed reviews at best. I've heard it was horrible, but some people seemed to have liked it okay. Not too auspicious, but I've yet to be let down by this game.


Everyone I know that has actually read the thing save Mac (who, well, is Mac) thinks it's the best Episode in the series, just fyi.

Most people saying it's terrible are people going off spoilers, or people who just miss the point entirely. I do expect there to be a ****storm when everyone has read it, though >.>

EDIT: What I'm trying to say is, don't let people judging the thing off spoilers cloud your expectations.

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Tom Bombadil
12/17/11 11:03:00 PM
#8:


a game tournament, eh...anything that can be called a "tournament" earns bonus points

man I have no idea what is going on anymore I have a hard enough time following complicated stories WITHOUT months and months of hiatus

loli Ange I guess OT is enjoying this....she is currently significantly more tolerable than usual so that's a plus

oh lawd she is Maria II

ange superplex is probably her best moment yet and it was offscreen :\

why is kinzo alive and derpy....is this going to be a super happy board where everybody is just hunky-dory and nobody gets horribly murdered or something

ever since Ep2 I have lived in mortal terror of a sudden thunderclap and ahaha.wav out of nowhere during the happy peaceful pre-twilight scenes, and this could be building up to an even worse jump scare :\

wonder what the heck kabocha is I will laugh if it's pumpk-it's pumpkin

noooooooo it's kinzo's wahaha face D:

what the hell is any of this

THERE we go ange knows what's up I can't believe I just typed that

"there's no difference between facts and truth" and people die when they are killed

man it did not take long at all for Ange to forget that whole "believe everything I tell you" spiel did it

IT'S FREAKIN' BEATO *marks out* also that is some snazzy bgm I really should go through the BGM and familiarize myself with all of it and figure out the names

mah boi this peace is what all true witch hunters strive for....I just wonder what Bern's up to!

this whole beato bit about a young woman still being a woman has pretty dang awkward implications

The Schrodinger's Cat references are always weird for me because my family would always call the litter box the cat box. Therefore the first split second after any reference to opening the cat box I wonder what relevance cat poop has to anything.

I vaguely remember the Gretel thing but who the crap is Mytyl

man hopefully my responses become more structured once we get a bit more plot advancement

I wonder if the More Important Thing has to do with RABBLE RABBLE LOVE RABBLE

Living funeral? Kinda a cool idea.

Y'know what? I can't offhand recall Jessica's asthma EVER coming up in the actual plot, although I think her profiles have mentioned it a few times. *bolonoia*

the man who loses strategically just to win in the end, eh

FOOFY DRESS BEATO EVEN BETTER

oh god the context makes the beato rapeface MORE terrifying

seriously is there an incest equivalent of ho yay because this game is starting to want one and that's WITHOUT the whole kinzo thing

oh man the king game I bet NANJO WINS and nothing comes of it

ange that is not how probability works although you did a good job of it for a six year old I guess

really

REALLY

of all the derpy...okay whatever I will take a slice

wonder if it matters

ange is the PARTY STAR

okay what in the GRIS is this

I GOT A MEDAL!!!!!1111!!!!!

english alphabet riddlez

I can't decide if this is cool or dumb. Possibly both. 3/3 so far, time to actually post this and take a short break.

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_Regaro_
12/17/11 11:30:00 PM
#9:


Only 3/3


excellent job not being better than perfect

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Haguile
12/17/11 11:50:00 PM
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I'm a bit further ahead so I'm going to keep my comments using Khali speak(decoder in sig)
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Tom Bombadil
12/18/11 1:02:00 AM
#11:


There's a hint button? That's kinda cool since I am pretty hit or miss with this kinda thing. I would've gotten Gohda's question wrong if I hadn't used it, since I was wondering how the vegetable stew made itself >_>

MACKEREL

PUZZLE

OKAY FINE I LIKE THIS SEGMENT YOU WIN THIS ROUND RYUKISHI

AM I AWESOME

GRANTED NOT AS AWESOME AS OMNIPOTENT MACKEREL

Man there are things I expected to have to call on over the course of this game but algebra was not one of them. Kinda unfortunate that there are so many riddles and word plays that really don't work in English, but I think Witch Hunt does a good job making the best of 'em....although the "half an emergency" line was brought up briefly, so I wonder if that hint was actually in the Japanese as well...?

"Incredible, a six-year-old who knows division" how about a six-year-old going to cram school?

DON'T EVEN TRY TO PULL ONE OVER ON ME ABOUT PIANOS WOMAN

Umineko uses fixed-do respect points lost

music change for Krauss...that's awesome

hnnnnnggg beato and natsuhi

I was still trying to figure out whether I thought this was awesome or dumb, and then I realized I was grinning in anticipation of the next puzzle.

I am glad my internet is up for the platinum question, as I sure as heck don't have that memorized. >_>

Missed one because I don't really know how anchovies taste D: (we'll ignore the hint <_<) THAT'S WHY GOD GAVE US SAVESCUMMING although it feels just wrong to savescum in Umineko >_>

where is the rose this game

Rosa suddenly throwing in ROKKENJIMA GUN BLOW UP is pretty hilarious. Outright missed that one and can't even blame my random assumption about anchovies.

Did not realize there were tougher variants on wolves and sheep, that's kinda cool. Got the right answer by luck- I was going after "all of these count as one passenger." >_>

HOLY CRAP WHAT IS SAKUTARO DOING HERE I mean I guess he fits but geeze

Nipah~

that might be the most confusing explanation of the Monty Hall problem I have ever seen and I have seen so many Monty Hall topics here

Bahaha "chant my name in praise three times a day"

BEATRICE DOLL EXCELLENT MY SAVESCUMMING HAS BEEN REWARDED

Y'know, this is all well and good, but I am not a big fan at all of Ange taking over as main character and PoV. I hope we get to be Battler again, but...I doubt it. The big choice is almost certainly going to be whether or not to open the cat box.

"a wife's responsibility" eh

Come to think of it....what did Will DO, really? Did he really do anything except serve as a vehicle for exposition?

Well, I promised myself I would go to sleep about nowish, and things are obviously about to take a darker turn, so I think that's it for now. Looking forward to the rest :D

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Tom Bombadil
12/18/11 7:27:00 AM
#12:


Umineko time once more, and it worked out to have the murderin' funtimes start during daylight :D

Bern's around? Excellent. Never thought I'd say that. >_>

...Vegeta-lion?

Either we've had lots of awesome new BGM already or I just haven't been paying attention to the other games or both

I'm loving all the different interactions at the party. Somehow kinda reminds me of Homestuck now that all the humans and trolls are kinda sorta maybe gonna actually meet up. Also interesting to note that Rudolf's here even though he just died. That's odd.

Mammon's like Zack Ryder- she does all the jobs.

As much as I am enjoying the setup of some sort of conflict beyond "oh man is Ange gonna lrn2key," I was really hoping that Battler would finally get a chance to be Awesome Territory Lord Guy just once, and yet here we are again with him losing control. At least we got the fun Beato I guess. It also seems to be getting less likely that he's reclaiming the main character spot, which I am pretty bummed about even if Ange is a lot less annoying this ep. She's not really a Mary Sue, but I react to her like she is.

I do not understand why we need one more fight, but I AM pretty excited about it. I'm also really enjoying face/tweener Lambda.....that said, I really don't feel like changing my opinion of Bern again, so I am gonna be annoyed if she winds up becoming sympathetic like they're already starting to tease. Let SOMEBODY be an actual bad guy in this story about evil witches and serial murder dammit.

So I guess Battler and Beato got married and I forgot o_o

....Purple?

....I thought we said we WEREN'T going to throw around blues and reds ah well can't complain

is it just me or are we missing the third twilight

Well that was indeed a simplified and streamlined game. Theories that immediately come to mind:
-Nobody's ruled out suicides yet.
-Teeeechnically we haven't ruled out somebody sneaking out of the room WHILE everybody was investigating the first twilight but that's probably silly
-First Twilight could be a kid/victim pair...I think the first two didn't have a second confirmation, but the rest did.
-Servants could all be in it together.

ONLY the culprit can lie? Interesting.

I can't tell if multiple culprits is supposed to be possible with these rules or not. Suicide and accomplices gets shot down pretty quickly....although I don't see why the culprit couldn't manipulate people perhaps....

Whoa direct reader address. Nifty. Guess it's my turn, but I've gotta get going, so I'll take a crack at it when I have more time and am awake. I expect to fail spectacularly, but I'm gonna at least try to get it myself :D

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Radix
12/18/11 1:11:00 PM
#13:


Whoa direct reader address. Nifty. Guess it's my turn, but I've gotta get going, so I'll take a crack at it when I have more time and am awake. I expect to fail spectacularly, but I'm gonna at least try to get it myself :D

oh hey this is were I am! Pondering over it as I type

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Tom Bombadil
12/18/11 5:48:00 PM
#14:


Alright, let's see here. My first instinct is to press the First Twilight. Lots of corpses and keys and such floating around, and not a whole ton of death confirmation relative to the rest of them. Gohda initially looks bad, as he gets two statements about how everything was all locked up, and if he's lying, that makes the First Twilight super easy for him or anybody else to pull off. However, his death is confirmed by both Nanjo and Jessica, and that seems to rule him out. Culprits can't die.

Shannon and Kanon is the other obvious point to press, but Shannon is confirmed by Nanjo AND George, and Kanon appears to be confirmed in red. I wish the wording was a bit more clear ("treated as dead") so I could entirely rule out that he's alive, but I am willing to concede for now that that's probably what they're going for.

Heck, let's go about this from a different way. George says Maria can't kill anyone. That means Maria is town (yes, I am in mafia mode now) unless they're a scumteam. That seems...odd, so we'll roll with that for now. That means Maria's statements are true, and that means at the very least we can trust Maria's confirmation that Rosa is dead, assuming Shannon isn't lying about the kids confirming the parents. We also know the mansion is indeed a closed circle, and that all the victims of the first twilight died instantly. ....She doesn't specify, though, that the six people listed are indeed the six victims, so I am not sure I can take that as proof of their deaths.

The cousins cross-confirm pretty dang well for the Eighth Twilight, so I feel pretty safe in assuming one culprit is not a kid. That's not very helpful, I know. ....Who's even left at that point? If there aren't any shenanigans (there are totally shenanigans imo) the survivors are....Kinzo if he's alive, George, Battler, Maria, and that's it. Kinzo is not showing up at all, so unless he shows up on the culprit select screen, I'm ruling him out, which means one of the victims ain't really dead. Let's check who has the least confirmation on death.

First Twilight: Shannon says the kids checked the parents. Kanon says he and Nanjo checked Genji. Maria says all died instantly. Also worth noting that there were definitely six deaths via the culprit, although nothing's said about timing.
Second Twilight: Battler says Nanjo checked them. Nanjo corroborates.
Fourth: George and Nanjo confirm Shannon's death, although George says he "acknowledged she was dead" rather than specifically checking the corpse. Worth noting that Kumasawa saying they found the corpse is NOT in purple, but is listed. Kanon is red truth'd but I am not sure I trust the wording.
Fifth/Sixth: Nanjo and Jessica both confirm.
Seventh: Jessica and George confirm, although the duality of "couldn't be killed inside the guesthouse" and "didn't leave the guesthouse" is a headscratcher.
Eighth: George and Maria confirm.

I think if we are being ballsy with assuming things (ie, that it's not Battler/Nanjo or George/Maria or Jessica/George), we can use this to confirm the deaths and innocence of Jessica, Krauss, Natsuhi, and Nanjo. It's also looking very much like there's a fake death early on in the game and I still want to look at Shkanon for that. Unfortunately this is all the time I really have right now, so it will have to continue percolating.

I really wanna just take my best guess and/or use the hint so I can move on, but I figure, I only get one shot at actually working on this, so I gotta make full use of my Ep8 virginity while I still have it, y'know? So while I really just want to devour the rest of this episode in one sitting, I'm gonna keep thinking about this until I come up with an answer.

I might use the hints though. >_>

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Ness26
12/18/11 5:57:00 PM
#15:


The hints are pretty unhelpful (I looked through them all after I solved it). You've probably deduced enough in that one post where the first 5 hints wouldn't tell you anything you hadn't thought of.

Though eventually the hints give you the answer -- there's a ridiculous number of hints.

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baron von toast
12/18/11 6:04:00 PM
#16:


I went through the first three hints out of curiosity and gave up on even looking at the rest because they were completely worthless.

Purple text is as good as red truth unless it's the culprit! Wow, thanks for the heads up, Beato.

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tcaz2
12/19/11 1:12:00 AM
#17:


Yeah the first, like, 7-8 hints or so (there are 20) would be completely unhelpful for you at the point you're at.

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Tom Bombadil
12/19/11 5:18:00 AM
#18:


20 hints? Geeeeeze.

I think what I am going to do is come up with a theory and then read all the hints just for the heck of it, and if that sheds different light on things, maybe I'll revise my theory. I wanna read the hints, but I wanna try to do without 'em.

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tcaz2
12/19/11 6:06:00 AM
#19:


Well you get as many tries as you want at entering the answer, just whenever you do so and get it wrong it auto-plays the next hint you haven't done.

I'd recommend just saving there, trying to work it out yourself, and then if you get it right just reload and read the hints then put the answer in again.

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Tom Bombadil
12/20/11 2:23:00 PM
#20:


hm gotcha

Haven't made any real progress since last post but that changes tonight dammit

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Tom Bombadil
12/20/11 7:41:00 PM
#21:


Alright, so I am starting from (partially assumed) confirmation of Maria, Jessica, Krauss, Natsuhi, and Nanjo. That means that Gohda and Kumasawa are confirmed as well, since Jessica and Nanjo both cleared them.

Who has a useful hint? Right now, Maria tells me nothing. Jessica confirms that Battler and George are not the culprits of 5/6/7, but not for the whole game. Krauss confirms that nobody was hiding at the time of the first twilight discovery, which is good enough for me. Natsuhi confirms the destruction of Genji's key. Nanjo confirms Shannon, which gives me pause. Gohda just gives me some closed room stuff and Shannon's key. And Kumasawa...kinda sorta confirms the entire first twilight.

Possible culprits at this point, if my assumptions are safe (which they aren't but I'm followin' em), would be...Kinzo, Eva, Hideyoshi, George (scumteam only), Rudolf, Kyrie, Battler (team only), Genji, Rosa, Kanon. Kinzo is unlikely to be alive to select, the first twilight may or may not be ruled out depending on semantics, and same with Kanon. Groovy. Gut currently says George/Kanon which is kinda silly but whatever.

Shannon being town means that the kids did indeed confirm the deaths, which means Rosa's clean and that's it, because I assume Battler or George could lie about a death if they're culprits.

George being a culprit could loosen up some closed rooms, particularly 1, 5/6, and 7. Kanon makes 1 easy, and really, if I'm accepting him as a possible culprit despite the red, he doesn't need much help at all to solo everything....just somebody to take care of second twilight, which shouldn't be that hard with his key. The alibi makes that awkward, but hell, maybe nobody saw him unlock the thing.

Screw it.

I want to finish this game.

Rolling George/Kanon and then gonna guess different stuff until I get it right.

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baron von toast
12/20/11 8:00:00 PM
#22:


Hint! (Which I think is actually the third hint the game gives.) The narrative doesn't lie. Use it to confirm deaths. Use those confirmed deaths to confirm more deaths.

I had a similar approach to yours and wound up with all of these cascading culprit scenarios, but then I finally decided to go back and the reread the damn thing and that helps narrow it down a lot.

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Mac Arrowny
12/20/11 8:00:00 PM
#23:


From: Tom Bombadil | #008
I can't decide if this is cool or dumb. Possibly both.


pretty much my thoughts on the full game

From: tcaz2 | #007
Everyone I know that has actually read the thing save Mac (who, well, is Mac) thinks it's the best Episode in the series, just fyi.


are these the same people who think 6 was one of the better episodes in the series

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12/20/11 8:07:00 PM
#24:


From: Mac Arrowny | #023
are these the same people who think 6 was one of the better episodes in the series


No.

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Tom Bombadil
12/20/11 8:11:00 PM
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Hint 1: Look for something that might be true. I tried that at the beginning of my approach :\

Guess: Shannon/Battler. OTP kinda sorta or something.

Hint 2: Look for people who might not be dead. Why is Beato suddenly so dumb

Guess: Kanon/Shannon. They're probably the culprit of the whole thing anyway.

Hint 3: No lies in the narration? I forgot that. Do I feel like re-reading the whole thing? Nope.

but I'm going to anyway GO THE POWER OF THE WHITE

hm the culprit of the second twilight I guess could just spend the rest of the game chillin' in the room

who the hell sends shannon and kanon on an errand at this poi- wait that happened once didn't it

also how does George have an alibi by himself it makes no sense for exactly one person in a closed circle to have an alibi who was with him

Interestingly, the "cousins/Nanjo couldn't have killed Gohda/Kumasawa" is pretty much confirmed. That doesn't actually help if I'm thinking a scumteam, though.

NANJO is confirmed dead. Okay that's nice. Jessica kinda is too.

....Honestly, I don't actually have much drive left to figure it out myself, or I'd re-do my whole spiel from a base of Nanjo and Jessica being the confirmed ones. I do want to figure it out, but I am not gonna be able to, and I want to move on.

Guess: Shannon/George. The amount of tip-toeing with George confuses me- all these people he couldn't have killed, but lots left he could've. Probably a red herring but whatever, at least this pairing makes sense. I'm also gonna be mad when it's like four people.

Hint 4: Hey cool Jessica and Nanjo are dead good thing I didn't just re-read the whole thing to find that out also lol roll with needle isn't that a thing in higurashi I should probably do higurashi at some point I read the first arc in the manga

"if they did get stuck it would be boring" well excuse me princess sorry for being so dumb

getting tired of bern's rape faces

Guess: Kanon SCREW IT THE SECOND PERSONALITY MUST HANG

Hint 5: Oh they're gonna keep working it out for me nice I might actually go back to an informed guess later if they save me the legwork.....

Nanjo, Jessica, Krauss, Natsuhi, Shannon, Gohda, and Kumasawa are officially confirmed now also geeze how is it going to be not Shannon :\ Hm, they are taking the Kanon red as confirmation as well....guess I will too. Offhand, that confirms Genji too, I believe. That means the servants aren't culprits, which means somebody pretty much had to get a master key somehow. IF I can work under the assumption that keys can be lifted from dead servants, that looks bad for...uh....Natsuhi confirms Genji's, Gohda confirms Shannon's, Bern confirms Kanon's, and uh that doesn't help me at all

Guess: George/Eva. Running out of ways the first twilight can be a thing that happened.

Hint 6: Genji's clean geeze guys I am pretty much just derpily guessing blind and I am still a step ahead I expect incompetence from battler but c'mon now beato

oh good somebody in the first twilight is probably a culprit too that's super

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baron von toast
12/20/11 8:16:00 PM
#26:


Do me a favor and guess George/Eva/Hideyoshi and tell me what happens.

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Tom Bombadil
12/20/11 8:34:00 PM
#27:


So let's see....it can be pretty much any kid/parent combination except Team Krauss. It pretty much has to be at this point, and I'm gonna work under the assumption that it's just one of the families. Given this assumption, George clears Maria. (and Rosa) I'm really feeling George over Battler here, but eh.

Guess: Battler/Rudolf/Kyrie because Hideyoshi ain't no murderer dawg

FW-BAM I will assume that means I'm right rather than I ran out of guesses >___>

I guess Krauss and Natsuhi got killed in the first twilight and locked up unwittingly by a servant or something and then it's cake.

there's a jump scare coming right

ALL OF THE GOATS :D sup bros

OH GOD GOAT-CHANS THAT IS TERRIFYING D:

so does that mean they're the culprits for all games or what

"George killed somebody before the game" might be the lamest witch logic I've ever heard

LOL ERIKA man I remember when I hated her guts

oh evatrice I still hate her guts

Umineko: where announcing that you murdered an entire family is a face turn

I'll always be on your side dawg especially when I kill your parents<3

oh right my laundry was done a while ago

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Tom Bombadil
12/20/11 8:34:00 PM
#28:


will do George family after I'm done, I'm curious as well

oh it's time to pick soon isn't it

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baron von toast
12/20/11 8:37:00 PM
#29:


From: Tom Bombadil | #027
I guess Krauss and Natsuhi got killed in the first twilight and locked up unwittingly by a servant or something and then it's cake.


One of the parents locked themselves in Natsuhi's room with the corpses and stayed there when everyone left. The other parent and Battler committed the remaining murders.

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Tom Bombadil
12/20/11 8:58:00 PM
#30:


"Bern is kuudere" MASTER DETECTIVES

"I'm not giving up my winning streak that easily" the hell kinda winning streak have you ever been on dude I mean yeah you survived a couple games but really now

oh this is probably some sorta higurashi callback huh

"a welcome enough to help the great Bern escape boredom for even a night" and then suddenly slashfics

OKAY I GOT IT THEY'RE THE BIFFLES NOW AND ARE GONNA HAVE WINGS AND WATCH THE GAME ON THURSDAYS GOT IT

and here I thought I was gonna make it through the rest of the game without auauauauaua

"you are literally the one holding the key" and I literally read that in my "generic B8er" voice in my head

"oh right she can read minds that'll make this faster" *proceeds to talk*

not a big fan of the music direction it is kinda grating even if it does fit

food break!

that and my computer has a weird thing where the scroll stops working until you shut it for a while and I wanna re-read what they just said

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12/20/11 8:59:00 PM
#31:


From: Tom Bombadil | #030
"you are literally the one holding the key" and I literally read that in my "generic B8er" voice in my head


you literally have such a voice in your head

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12/20/11 9:01:00 PM
#32:


literally been here nine years

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12/20/11 9:31:00 PM
#33:


Oh man the SUPER IMPORTANT KEY goes to the SUPER IMPORTANT BOOK WITH A LOCK ON IT whodathunkit

....part 1? There's enough of this left to be a part 2? Ryukishi and Hussie should hang out.

"well she's probably fine" I really want Battler to get a harem anime with how inept he is at this whole "girl" thing

yes please pick a fight with beato so she can smack a *****

oh good time for the stakes to job again

c'mon krauss punch one out for old time's sake

Mammon is kinda terrifying here wtf

Y'know, I'm not sure how hiding out on the second floor is going to help once they eat the first

GOAT-KUN ATTACK FORMATION

so ALL THE GOATS have Endless Nine

therefore, ALL OF THE GOATS for MPFC

BRO

NOVE

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12/20/11 11:20:00 PM
#34:


HECK YES DLANOR AWESOME TIME this is formulaic as all get out and I do not care

Yeah, kinda gotta plead guilty to Will's attack on people who don't think. Well, sorta, I DO think, but I also give up really easily.

...what

DERP OF THE GRAVE

Beato is useless against the POWER OF EMO

you can tell I"m getting into it because I forget to comment

I can't believe I used to dislike Lambda

"you will be the first to read it" does not necessarily imply that she'll actually get to read it, just that nobody else will

what IS with all the "comrade" floating about

I WANNA GO TO The Library D:

....I do get to make a choice here, right?

what is even happening and why can't I go to bed I have work in the morning dammit

apologizing: the game

oh hey I was just wondering what Battler was up to

"the sound of popcorn being eaten rang out" what the hell kinda popcorn

FREAKING THIS IS NEVER GOING TO END alright I think here is where I draw the line and try to be a bit less sleep-deprived

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12/21/11 6:37:00 AM
#35:


how much of this can I knock out before work and how late is it gonna make me

lack of an actual pirate Eirka sprite makes me unbelievably sad

I am amused by how short Beato's attention span is here. FORMALITY FORMALITY FORM-THIS IS BORING ON WITH IT

Kinzo top tier

I also kinda enjoy how useless Zepar and Furfur are this entire episode

BLUFF LIKE HELLLLL I love it. Also really love Beato's tiny trollfaces in the middle of her act. Little touches like that make my day sometimes.

still wanna go to The Library I mean c'mon the land of books and kitties

Lambda still climbing the tiers

kinda groovin' on the music here as we sneak around the Library

nooooo the kitties D: dammit EVAtrice this is supposed to be a face turn I don't care if they're evil bernkitties you still suck

I still don't get how EVAtrice can claim to have always been on Ange's side. Even setting aside her actions as a piece, wasn't it her that tried to get whatsherface to kill her in '98?

WASH YOUR FACE IN MISO SOOOOUUUUUUP c'mon beato is that really the best you could do

Lambdaaaaaaaaaawg wat

green sun you say let's blow it up

Lambda steppin' in like a boss

one could call this a cute and pop genocide of love

dem yanderes

seriously why does the picture not have a pirate hat

YES the TOWER THINGS that whole fight was awesome please bring stuff back from it

man good thing we have so many winchesters

....XFD Krauss sucker punch. It took me until now to get on the Krauss bandwagon.

continuous crowning moments of awesome: tha game

I am now taking it as canon that Laharl is one of the overlords under Featherine.

don't worry I will vote for you lambda

woo gonna be late for work now

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12/21/11 7:21:00 AM
#36:


Fun fact: Lambda actually did get #3 on the character polls.

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12/21/11 1:41:00 PM
#37:


she damn well better have

I gotta do a character ranking after this I guess. That's gonna be tough- there aren't all that many characters that are SUREFIRE TOP TIER, but aside from a couple, everybody else is in a relatively small range from "kinda cool" to "I really like 'em."

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baron von toast
12/21/11 2:14:00 PM
#38:


Let me help you get started.

1. Erika

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12/21/11 2:14:00 PM
#39:


From: baron von toast | #038
Let me help you get started.

1. Kyrie



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12/21/11 2:15:00 PM
#40:


that is an odd spelling of Beato

although Erika's in the running for #2 I think

won't get it probably but she's in the running

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12/21/11 3:21:00 PM
#41:


Well Lambda is pretty dead that is a depressing way to kick off this session.

and then PUNCH IN THE FACE excellent

This moon on the lake analogy is pretty cool. Also FINALLY Battler gets to be all gar and stuff.

Endless Nine'D. Too bad Laharl still has his sword although maybe since he's a cat now that won't work

well ****

BOLD PREDICTION: Battler is that Amakusa guy. I don't know how or why but gut's been pinging on that guy ever since he showed up.

No more friends, eh? How about EV-oh

do the impossible see the invisible row row fight da powa

as cool as this is it also is a bit cheesy and mary sue-y for even my tastes.

oh gorramit why can't I save here ughhhhhh

magic dood

yadda yadda Ange yadda

HNNNNNNGGGGGGGG

no

nonononononono

*sheds multiple not manly at all tears*

WHO THE **** CARES ABOUT YOU AND YOUR COMPANY WENCH

I guess that's the ep then. Seriously, it shoudl've ended with the Beato/Battler thing. I realize that Ange is the main character now and all but I also don't give a damn.

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12/21/11 3:28:00 PM
#42:


"Just by seeing this postmark, see how far Bernkastel's reasoning has taken her" okay fine Bern you can be a character I like you win

meowoofs what the hell

pffffffthahaha Will's smile

"Let's hold off for dramatic effect....okay that'll do it" lulz

"WHEN SOMETHING ELSE CRIES" herp derp

wait dammit what about the rest of the minor fantasy characters :\

I think I am gonna hold off on the ??? for now, maybe grab the other ending and check the George family culprit before I finish. For now, it is naptime because I am kinda dead.

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12/21/11 3:59:00 PM
#43:


Fun Fact:

Amakusa's laugh is "ihihihi"

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12/21/11 4:44:00 PM
#44:


Thinking about it, though, I don't think I have the heart to go back and pick the other option, honestly. >_> I might save that for some time in the future.

For the record, George/Eva/Hideyoshi is just a plain ol' incorrect answer.

Girlfriend's comin' over so I don't want to jump into the ??? and get halfway done, so I'm just gonna read more hints for the heck of it.

Hint 11 (An accomplice exists) has some pretty groovy music I can't recall hearing before.

They certainly take a long time to get from "Maybe there are multiple culprits" to "It needs to be a kid/parent/parent trio."

I also liked how "Two adults, one kid" is basically just a recap. I was half-expecting a fourth wall break and/or "IT IS BATTLER AND HIS PARENTS YOU STUPID PLAYER" thing for that hint but no, there's even more after.

and another one

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12/21/11 4:46:00 PM
#45:


From: Tom Bombadil | #044
Thinking about it, though, I don't think I have the heart to go back and pick the other option, honestly. >_> I might save that for some time in the future.


You really should.

It's quite the <good> ending.

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12/21/11 4:48:00 PM
#46:


I probably will eventually, but I am still worked up enough that I don't have it in me to be all anti-fantasy.

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12/21/11 7:06:00 PM
#47:


Alright let's FINISH THIS

noooo more ange

oh it's sakutarou yay

A 8+ EPISODE SERIES THAT FINALLY GOT THE AUTHOR NOTORIETY AFTER IT GOT TRANSLATED PARTWAY THROUGH YOU SAY MAN THAT SEEMS FAMILIAR

Kotobuki Yukari? I was hoping for, like, Beatrice Goldsmith or something cheesy like that.

is ryukishi dying or something

also ibshe dies and gets to be with everybody again

Harry the Potato. Really. Really? Really. miz.jpg

well ****

wait could this possibly not go horribly

OLD BATTLER THE BEST also geeze be more Kinzo

Battler/whozit marriage lolnoplz

.....Memory loss? FFFFFFF

odd that they have gone that far to make Battler parallel Ange with the memory and the Tohya and the stuff

....wait, did they wipe Ange too? She talks about it taking decades to meet her although with all the timey-wimey shenanigans who knows if that meeting actually happened

oh hey that covers the battler is dead red neatly...wait was that ever a red

well I guess they didn't wipe Ange if she remembers the red truth so that's weeeeird

FUKUIN HOUSE AW YEAH is it too much to hope for some sort of Beato-related something

lol "don't pay attention to reader polls" ryukishi is having fun with that this ep

Well uh...that ending felt somehow awkward to me, but I am always cool with more BattlerxBeato so I approve. I....guess that's it. Hm. Needs to digest before I can really give a wrap-up.

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12/21/11 7:08:00 PM
#48:


From: Tom Bombadil | #047
....wait, did they wipe Ange too? She talks about it taking decades to meet her although with all the timey-wimey shenanigans who knows if that meeting actually happened


The meeting really is a few decades past 1998. I think that people on OT pegged Ange in her late 40s or early 50s.

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12/21/11 7:11:00 PM
#49:


Well yeah, but she DID actually meet Hachijou in '98 eventually

......didn't she?

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12/21/11 7:13:00 PM
#50:


Dunno, did she~?

She tells the editor guy that she barged in and was denied.

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