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TimJab 12/15/11 12:15:00 PM #151: |
From: EmDubyaSee | #132 i said super janemba, not his first form. he got a lot stronger after transforming. his first form wasn't even capable of fighting. -- http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6VmYVI7liwE/TnVxd6msalI/AAAAAAAAE74/SZT6xCZPZeI/s1600/8.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EmDubyaSee 12/15/11 12:56:00 PM #152: |
From: TimJab | #151 Every form of Super Buu is stronger than Super Janemba. Super Janemba literally failed to kill Goku and Vegeta, and then Veku, before they could form Gogeta, which Super Buu could do in seconds. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera | MWC is god-tier ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TimJab 12/15/11 2:14:00 PM #153: |
he was kind of toying with them
regardless regular super saiyan gogeta annihilated him i think SS4 gogeta is just as strong as ss4 vegito -- Also even I have to give the Rangers credit right now. They're better than we are. - ExThaNemesis ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The_Djoker 12/15/11 2:22:00 PM #154: |
From: TimJab | #153 lol no. -- http://gifsoup.com/view2/3219901/nakedlightning-o.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TimJab 12/15/11 2:23:00 PM #155: |
where is the evidence that he isn't?
they're literally the exact same entity, except one is permanent -- http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6967/timfavre.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TimJab 12/15/11 2:26:00 PM #156: |
plus gogeta has a better name
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dethfdddddh 12/15/11 2:28:00 PM #157: |
Were present 17/18 really stronger than future 17/18, or did Trunks just never see their full power; 17 used less than 50% of his power against Future Gohan, after all.
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EmDubyaSee 12/15/11 2:28:00 PM #158: |
From: TimJab | #156 It includes his REAL name. Vegeta and Kakkarato. Vegetto -- From: Regaro_Ukiera | MWC is god-tier ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TimJab 12/15/11 2:30:00 PM #159: |
oh
well kakkarato is a dumb name -- http://www.thejetsblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/himommangold_thumb.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MarvelousGerbil 12/15/11 2:32:00 PM #160: |
EmDubyaSee posted...
From: TimJab | #156 plus gogeta has a better name vegito doesn't include goku's name at all It includes his REAL name. Vegeta and Kakkarato. Vegetto Still dumb since they dropped the O in the version it was shown in. Should have gone with Vegerot! -- http://i.imgur.com/6XjQR.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EmDubyaSee 12/15/11 2:34:00 PM #161: |
From: TimJab | #153 I'm pretty sure he was SSJ 2 given the hair. Anyway, Vegito powered up to SSJ 2 for literally 3 seconds (both in the anime and manga) before powering right down to SSJ, because there was no point to going SSJ2. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera | MWC is god-tier ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EmDubyaSee 12/15/11 2:40:00 PM #162: |
From: dethfdddddh | #157 Recoome probably. I have always figured that Recoome, Jeice, adn Burter were in the 55,000 or so region, given how they are able to own the others. Nail is only at 42,000. Just don't see him winnign there. I will say had Nail joined, they probably beat at least Recoome before Goku gets there. There is absolutely no way to know for certain, and it all depends on how strong you think Future Gohan was, and if you think they still held back when they tried to kill Trunks. I am inclined to believe they probably were stronger. Trunks points out their power is simply inconceivable in this timeline, and they are different people after all, his were unspeakably evil, ours were actually pretty nice all things considered. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera | MWC is god-tier ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sorozone 12/15/11 4:13:00 PM #163: |
From: TimJab | #155 That's exactly why it's better, and why Vegito would win in minutes. Gogeta unfused in 10 minutes because his power was too vast in fusion form. Vegito could go full power right away, and unleash everything, Gogeta wouldn't be able too because all evidence would point to him unfusing. -- - ... Copied to Clipboard!
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junk_funk 12/15/11 4:15:00 PM #164: |
Don't Androids get weaker over longer periods of time? Wasn't that pointed out in an episode or maybe the manga?
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OmarsComin 12/15/11 4:18:00 PM #165: |
Can you give a general outline of Vegeta's power level growth from the start of Namek to the end of it?
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EmDubyaSee 12/15/11 5:19:00 PM #166: |
From: OmarsComin | #165 I will say from teh start I am in the "Vegeta got no sleep for 8 days and was therefore alot stronger than he showed most of the time camp..." After healing at Frieza planet. 24,000. Stated by Dedoria as he is fighting Cui. After beating Zarbon and Dedoria and getting the Zenkai. 30,000, also stated, this time in the Diazshu After eating the Sensu bean from Goku. Really strong, probably in the 80-90,000 range. He is able to effortlessly beat Jeice, and he is able to take apart Ginyu after he learned how to use Goku's body. It is true he would not know the Kaio-Ken or anything, but Goku still maxed at 90,000 after all. Depending on how much one believes Gohan and Krillin damaged him beforehand.. After going to sleep, and finally getting back to what his real power levels are. 450,000, easy. He is able to fight pretty evenly with Frieza, it is clear Frieza is stronger, by facial expressions, but they are close enough in power. After Krillin nearly kills him, and Dende heals him. At least 2,000,000, maybe more. He was not as powerful as Goku who was at 3,000,000, nor at Frieza, who unpowered up is proably around there too, since he spars rather evenly with Goku. But he is at least stronger than third form Frieza. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera | MWC is god-tier ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SuperAngelo128 12/15/11 5:38:00 PM #167: |
which character do you find the most "annoying"?
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EmDubyaSee 12/15/11 5:55:00 PM #168: |
From: SuperAngelo128 | #167 Babadi sucks. And I really don't like Yamcha. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera | MWC is god-tier ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TimJab 12/15/11 6:05:00 PM #169: |
From: Sorozone | #163 extha clearly said vegito would stomp gogeta before he could even unfuse at the very least, gogeta is capable of reaching the same peaks as vegito right? -- http://www.thejetsblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/himommangold_thumb.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZX_Lucian 12/15/11 6:07:00 PM #170: |
Would you mind waiting 5 episodes for my question to be revealed?
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EmDubyaSee 12/15/11 6:09:00 PM #171: |
From: ZX_Lucian | #170 Only if you scream for at least 2 of those next 5 episodes while "powering up" -- From: Regaro_Ukiera | MWC is god-tier ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MarvelousGerbil 12/15/11 6:12:00 PM #172: |
Did it annoy you to hear "Next time on DBZ. Will Goku be able to beat Freeza" then see the episode title "Freeza Defeated!"
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EmDubyaSee 12/15/11 6:14:00 PM #173: |
From: MarvelousGerbil | #172 No, at that time I was more relieved to be honest. I knew Goku was going to win, and after waiting like 19 episodes, I just wanted them to get it over with. I think that episode debuted on a Friday too, which all ready meant I was waiting 3 more days. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera | MWC is god-tier ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ExThaNemesis 12/15/11 6:16:00 PM #174: |
From: TimJab | #155 Like I said, canonically stated that the fusion is made stronger by the fact that they're rivals fused by the potara. -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg "I was wrong." - SmartMuffin ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OmarsComin 12/15/11 6:49:00 PM #175: |
24,000 to 2 million in one story arc
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EmDubyaSee 12/15/11 6:50:00 PM #176: |
From: OmarsComin | #175 Goku would have gone from 8,000 to 3,000,000 in the same story arc.... -- From: Regaro_Ukiera | MWC is god-tier ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sorozone 12/15/11 6:51:00 PM #177: |
From: ExThaNemesis | #174 Yeah, I forgot about this. Potara rings have two advantages. It's permanent, and it's Goku and Vegeta, while fusion dance is a totally separate entity, a completely new person that's a combination of Goku and Vegeta, but not Goku and Vegeta themselves. If that makes any sense. There is a reason the Supreme Kai retained his personality when fusing with Kibito. -- - ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OmarsComin 12/15/11 7:04:00 PM #178: |
Goku would have gone from 8,000 to 3,000,000 in the same story arc....
Which is even dumber! When every character that matters gets that much stronger that quickly, all the early stuff looks pretty silly. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MarvelousGerbil 12/15/11 7:12:00 PM #179: |
EmDubyaSee posted...
From: OmarsComin | #175 Goku would have gone from 8,000 to 3,000,000 in the same story arc.... But Goku was OVER 9000 during the Saiyan Saga. -- http://i.imgur.com/6XjQR.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EmDubyaSee 12/15/11 7:14:00 PM #180: |
From: MarvelousGerbil | #179 No he wasn't. He was over 8,000 when he powered up to fight Nappa. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera | MWC is god-tier ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MarvelousGerbil 12/15/11 7:16:00 PM #181: |
Anime>Manga.
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EmDubyaSee 12/15/11 7:22:00 PM #182: |
From: MarvelousGerbil | #181 I'd have to watch the Japanese anime again, but I believe even in that it was 8,000. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera | MWC is god-tier ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MarvelousGerbil 12/15/11 7:38:00 PM #183: |
DBZ is one of the few animes that I can't stand in Japanese, it's just not the same and the VAs in the English version are great.
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SuperAngelo128 12/15/11 8:36:00 PM #184: |
Japan anime and DVD English Dragon Ball Z Kai has 8000 (NOT OVER)
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EmDubyaSee 12/15/11 8:39:00 PM #185: |
From: SuperAngelo128 | #184 Thought so. I know the manga is over 8,000 though. It's like 8,000 and rising or something. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera | MWC is god-tier ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EmDubyaSee 12/16/11 9:27:00 AM #186: |
bump
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MarvelousGerbil 12/16/11 9:43:00 PM #187: |
Is Hercule even a top 10 full-blood human in terms of strength? I could see Tien, Krillen, Yamcha, Chioutzu, Roshi, Shen, Videl, Tao, Nam, Blue, Yajirobi, and probably a few other Red Ribbon officers either god stomping him or at least beating him by a fair margin.
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TimJab 12/16/11 9:45:00 PM #188: |
hercule would beat videl's ass
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14_and_counting 12/16/11 9:52:00 PM #189: |
From: MarvelousGerbil | #187 Hercule has a power level of 10 (I believe that is what the Diazshu says). That makes him Goku at the start of Dragonball.. Last time I ranked the humans, I thought I had him at exactly 10. In no order. Uub, Chiatzu, Krillin, Yamcha, Yajirobe, Tien, Roshi, Videl, Tao, and Shen are definitely ahead of him Now, Blue is dead, and Tao is now not fully human, so, that means there are 8 that are surely stronger, and Shen may or may not be alive. Nam is definitely stronger, but does not fight in the tournament again. Hercule is stronger than Chappa, because he actually won the previous Budokai, which King Chappa would have been in. So, that puts Hercule at exactly 10. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera | MWC is god-tier ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SSJSephirothGokuX123 12/16/11 10:01:00 PM #190: |
ChiChi is way stronger than Hercule with a 130 power level. Bacterian, Colonel Silver, Man Wolf and Ox King might be stronger than Hercule as well.
Also a lot of DB Budokai entrants stopped participating after the Piccolo Junior saga since most of them are afraid of getting killed by Piccolo again. -- http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e373/Gaiash/KumaVsZangief.jpg LOL!!!! I hope that's a joke....names don't get more n00bish than that ... Copied to Clipboard!
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redrocket 12/16/11 10:03:00 PM #191: |
Chi Chi is probably ahead of him, right?
Hell, Ox King too. -- From his looks Magus is Macho Man Randy Savage as an anime zombie. The black wind howls, and one of you will snap into a Slim Jim ooh yeeeah! -sonicblastpunch ... Copied to Clipboard!
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User728 12/16/11 10:06:00 PM #192: |
Tien was stronger than Krillin the whole time. Yamcha does not know and only said his nonsense to please Krillin's daughter.
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TimJab 12/16/11 10:18:00 PM #193: |
From: 14_and_counting | #189 WTF Shen is just some dude that was possessed by Kami. He's not stronger than Hercule. Neither is Videl unless she gets a lot stronger in GT or something. All she can do it fly since she is taught how to manipulate ki. Anyone can fly, regardless of power level. -- http://i55.tinypic.com/20t3qfm.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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User728 12/16/11 10:21:00 PM #194: |
From: TimJab | #193 Literally thinks Shen is Hero. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TimJab 12/16/11 10:23:00 PM #195: |
From: User728 | #194 that's the only shen i know of -- http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6782/timj1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TimJab 12/16/11 10:24:00 PM #196: |
oh wait roshi's rival
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SunSolSolar 12/16/11 10:47:00 PM #197: |
For those who think it was supposed to end at the Freeza Saga:
http://daizex.fanboyreview.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=15102 If anything, Vegeta was supposed to be the end IMO(Gohan ended up being the hero at the end there). ... Copied to Clipboard!
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14_and_counting 12/16/11 10:49:00 PM #198: |
From: redrocket | #191 Literally forgot them both. But yeah, Chi Chi and Ox King are way above Hercule. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera | MWC is god-tier ... Copied to Clipboard!
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14_and_counting 12/16/11 10:52:00 PM #199: |
From: User728 | #192 No offense here. But you're an idiot. He LITERALLY says IN HIS HEAD, "among humans at least". He appeased Maron by saying "your days is the strongest in the world" -- From: Regaro_Ukiera | MWC is god-tier ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MarvelousGerbil 12/16/11 11:50:00 PM #200: |
It's legitimately difficult for me to remember that Chichi is a somewhat competent fighter, even despite her DBZ fighting scenes. She was even somewhat responsible for Goten being a competent fighter.
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