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foolm0ron
11/04/11 6:12:00 PM
#1:


New topic just in case the last one fills up due to the NEW EPISODE!

Livestreams:
http://www.bronystate.net/theatre/
http://www.livestream.com/dizzystreams
http://livestream.com/midnight_run
http://synchtube.com/r/filly (and filly2 and filly3)

Links to all episodes:
http://ponyarchive.org/seasons/s2.php

All season 1 episodes in hi-def:
http://www.youtube.com/user/Cyzzacle#g/c/23ADD1DB82266CE1

Other pony stuff:
http://www.equestriadaily.com/
http://bronyshow.com/
http://www.ponychan.net/

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the_rowan
11/05/11 12:01:00 PM
#2:


I'm just gonna post my thoughts on S2E5 in here since I feel like there should be room for more than 5 posts of new episode discussion.

Adorable episode. Way better than I expected from the description. Glad to have an episode just about the characters in a sympathetic situation as a break from the madness.

Shock and awe at parents, and at parents being somewhere between extremely easygoing and rednecks. Even more shock and awe when someone pointed out after the episode that Rarity's father appears to be a football player. Breakfast looked like something out of the Worst Bakers in Equestria fic, complete with burnt juice and of course "toast".

The opening was so-so material made good purely from how sympathetic it made Sweetie Belle. I was expecting her to be totally oblivious and annoying to the point where I could only agree with Rarity, but they did a good job of representing both of them realistically. And of course, when Rarity flipped after Sweetie Belle organized everything for her, all I could think of was the fact that Rarity was exactly like every male member of my family and how spot-on accurate that personality quirk was portrayed. It's certainly an interesting one to give Rarity, for sure.

ONE DAY was a pretty good gag, but the rest of the scenes with AJ and Apple Bloom, while kinda cute, were pretty unmemorable.

Totally called Rarity disguised as AJ mid-race just from being genre-savvy, though I didn't realize when they had switched. In retrospect, should have been easy since she had blue eyes instead of AJ's green.

To resolve some of the comments I've seen, marshmallows were made from plants (the marshmallow plant, no less) before they were made from horses. And the sheep thing is a pretty direct reference to Babe, thrown in as a joke that's not to be taken seriously. Faust or someone will probably throw in an explanation soon like they did with cows and pigs, although really we don't need another as the same thing still works.

I also raised an eyebrow when Rarity swore to Celestia that she'd work things out. So Celestia's name is used as a god figure...

Overall, really solid episode, and I kinda want to facepalm whenever I see people complaining that it was the worst of season 2. This is the first time the writing hasn't had any glaring flaws related to contrived problems or not enough time, in my opinion, and it was just really cute and led me along even if it wasn't laugh-out-loud funny. Everyone was treated as a character instead of just being around to make a joke or make them overly crazy, and the scenario was believable and easy to relate to.

Edit: Also, I dawwwwwed so hard I should probably be keeping insulin nearby when they showed Sweetie Belle's artwork.

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Bigwig_rah
11/05/11 12:09:00 PM
#3:


Y'know what the worst part of this weeks episode was? When Applejack was giving her little speech to Rarity near the end I really thought there was a song coming. Like, the combination of what she was saying and the background music made me think "someone's gonna start singing in a sec!"

Alas, no dice.

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Gwindor
11/05/11 12:26:00 PM
#4:


this episode was great

it finally felt like they weren't trying to cram in too much dialogue

also: Tabitha St.Germaine does phenomenal voice work.

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Pirateking2000
11/05/11 12:30:00 PM
#5:


Man people are crazy for songs.

Watch a song pop up when people least expect it (next week's ep would probably fit this lmao)

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the_rowan
11/05/11 12:55:00 PM
#6:


You know, we just had a Rarity episode, then someone mentions they want a song, then the next person says Tabitha St. Germain does great voice work...

It all made me wonder if they'll ever have Rarity sing as if she's in an opera in the show. That's where Tabitha St. Germain came from, after all.

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PrinceKaro
11/05/11 1:19:00 PM
#7:


Best episode of season 2.

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Silver_Ermine
11/05/11 1:22:00 PM
#8:


Worst episode of season 2

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_Harmonica_
11/05/11 1:56:00 PM
#9:


How about a medium quality episode, not the best, not the worst, just right

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Paratroopa1
11/05/11 1:59:00 PM
#10:


Meh. Episode was annoyingly sappy most of the time, but it had Rarity, so I guess it was okay. Pretty solidly the worst episode of the season so far, but it was tolerable.
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foolm0ron
11/05/11 2:10:00 PM
#11:


It was decent. The thing with this episode is that it wasn't as ambitious as the rest of season 2, so despite being really well polished and not having any flaws like rowan mentioned, people are still kinda disappointed. I liked it though, it's always good to have solid, down-to-earth episodes as well. The same thing happens with Community.

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Paratroopa1
11/05/11 2:34:00 PM
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the_rowan | Posted 11/5/2011 1:01:41 PM | message detail | quote | (edited)
I also raised an eyebrow when Rarity swore to Celestia that she'd work things out. So Celestia's name is used as a god figure...


Well, she said "with Celestia as her witness", and she did write a letter to Celestia the next day, on account of the fact that Celestia asked her to.
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GenesisTwilight
11/05/11 8:16:00 PM
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People DO usually say "With God as my witness" though >.>

Also external image

And the entire fanbase cried out in unison as their world came crashing down around them.

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VintageGin
11/05/11 8:55:00 PM
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Wow, for some reason I didn't realize the new season had started.

How has season 2 been so far?

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foolm0ron
11/05/11 9:22:00 PM
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From: VintageGin | #014
How has season 2 been so far?


Very above average

also these are the best ever
http://dx11.deviantart.com/art/FLASH-Pinkie-found-a-TransAm-266985369
http://ganton3.deviantart.com/art/Flash-Twilight-s-Newest-Magic-Trick-267309109

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PrinceKaro
11/05/11 9:26:00 PM
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PrinceKaro
11/05/11 9:26:00 PM
#17:


GenesisTwilight posted...
People DO usually say "With God as my witness" though >.>

Also external image

And the entire fanbase cried out in unison as their world came crashing down around them.


People DO realize that someone can have more than one sister, right?

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GenesisTwilight
11/05/11 9:35:00 PM
#18:


From: PrinceKaro | #016
GenesisTwilight posted...
People DO usually say "With God as my witness" though >.>

Also external image

And the entire fanbase cried out in unison as their world came crashing down around them.


People DO realize that someone can have more than one sister, right?


Unless that older unicorn is also Derpy's daughter, then Dinky is canonically not Derpy's child.

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foolm0ron
11/05/11 11:18:00 PM
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From: GenesisTwilight | #018
Unless that older unicorn is also Derpy's daughter, then Dinky is canonically not Derpy's child.


My problem is with Berry Punch and her sister. Wasn't Berry Punch once "overprotective pony parent" or something like that? Now apparently she's not a parent but a sister!

I don't think it really matters, Dinky could just be pulling a Sweetie Belle and "borrowing" the other pony as a sister because Derpy had work or something.

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Big Bob
11/06/11 12:23:00 AM
#20:


I liked the episode. Not every episode has to be big and groundbreaking. We need more down-to-earth episodes to balance things out.

While none of the episodes are close to what the best of the show had to offer, they're still consistently better than most of Season 1.

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Crystal King
11/06/11 4:14:00 AM
#21:


Heart-melting twist ending, Granny Smith continuing to kick ass, solid overall. But yeah, more than the episode itself I like what it means for the format of the show going forward. Lesson Zero did a really good job of setting it up (I'm seeing Twilight's nervous breakdown in a whole new light now!), and I'm happy to see that the team has decided to take full advantage of it.

From: foolm0ron | #015
also these are the best ever
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http://ganton3.deviantart.com/art/Flash-Twilight-s-Newest-Magic-Trick-267309109


Can not stop watching.

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AfroSquirrel
11/06/11 7:28:00 AM
#22:


"troubles in thailand"

"regarding their bibles - mathew does not like that"

Pretty good episode.. but no Twilight D:

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Paratroopa1
11/06/11 11:40:00 AM
#23:


It just occurred to me that this is the first episode ever to not include Twilight, and she's been the only character to appear in every episode.
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PrinceKaro
11/06/11 1:42:00 PM
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Possible leaked Season 2 song (spoilers, of course!):



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Bigwig_rah
11/06/11 1:48:00 PM
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Paratroopa1 posted...
It just occurred to me that this is the first episode ever to not include Twilight, and she's been the only character to appear in every episode.

Hasn't Spike been in every episode?

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_Harmonica_
11/06/11 1:53:00 PM
#26:


Spike wasn't in Look Before You Sleep, Call of the Cutie and Stare Master.

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Pirateking2000
11/06/11 1:58:00 PM
#27:


Possible leaked Season 2 song (spoilers, of course!):




Perhaps this will make those who rage over lack of songs in season 2 so far calm down a bit =P

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Silver_Ermine
11/06/11 2:00:00 PM
#28:


_Harmonica_ posted...
Spike wasn't in Look Before You Sleep, Call of the Cutie and Stare Master.

And those were the worst episodes ever.

Spike da best <3

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Bigwig_rah
11/06/11 2:00:00 PM
#29:


Pirateking2000 posted...
Possible leaked Season 2 song (spoilers, of course!):




Perhaps this will make those who rage over lack of songs in season 2 so far calm down a bit =P


Absolutely not! Pinkie is the pony I'd least want to have a song, and this one isn't very interesting.

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Pirateking2000
11/06/11 2:02:00 PM
#30:


Meh I want Discord to have a trolling song but ah well

actually RBD needs some songs as well =P

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metroid composite
11/06/11 2:03:00 PM
#31:


The twist at the end was great; I was waiting for Rarity to show up, but wasn't expecting that at all.

foolm0ron posted...
It was decent. The thing with this episode is that it wasn't as ambitious as the rest of season 2, so despite being really well polished and not having any flaws like rowan mentioned, people are still kinda disappointed. I liked it though, it's always good to have solid, down-to-earth episodes as well. The same thing happens with Community.

This sounds right on paper.

On the one hand, the sleepover episode is one of my favourites from season 1. I'd be curious to watch these two end to end to see whether one of them stands out (since it is a lot of the same characters and similar themes).

On the other hand, I think they need to be careful with switching back and forth. For instance, I love Jane Austen novels, but reading them after reading something intense takes a while to adjust.



In something completely unrelated, it's getting weirder and weirder to me that Rarity represents "generosity". She has some generous moments, sure, but...I mean, if you were to ask me which of the ponies is most generous personality-wise she's behind like...certainly Apple Jack (the pony who just gave her a lesson on generocity) and Fluttershy.

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Paratroopa1
11/06/11 2:03:00 PM
#32:


I feel like I'm the only person who doesn't like the songs! I mean, they're way better than songs in kid's shows usually are, but I still don't like them.
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Silver_Ermine
11/06/11 2:04:00 PM
#33:


Paratroopa1 posted...
I feel like I'm the only person who doesn't like the songs! I mean, they're way better than songs in kid's shows usually are, but I still don't like them.

No, I don't like them either lol

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Paratroopa1
11/06/11 2:05:00 PM
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metroid composite | Posted 11/6/2011 2:03:27 PM | message detail | quote
In something completely unrelated, it's getting weirder and weirder to me that Rarity represents "generosity". She has some generous moments, sure, but...I mean, if you were to ask me which of the ponies is most generous personality-wise she's behind like...certainly Apple Jack (the pony who just gave her a lesson on generocity) and Fluttershy.


I don't necessarily think representing the element means they are an absolute paragon of that element 100% of the time. Every character goes through a crisis in whichever element they are at some point (except Applejack, who is a mary sue and never displays any flaws). Rarity goes through a lot more of them because she's Rarity.
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metroid composite
11/06/11 3:06:00 PM
#35:


Paratroopa1 posted...
I don't necessarily think representing the element means they are an absolute paragon of that element 100% of the time. Every character goes through a crisis in whichever element they are at some point

They do?

When is Fluttershy not kind? (Excluding the season finale where she very blatantly acts out of character). I mean, I guess there's her dress rant at Rarity, but she doesn't want to say those things to Rarity--Rarity makes her talk; her instinct is to not hurt Rarity's feelings by being honest.

When is Twilight not magic?

When is Pinkie Pie not laughing? I guess she has her insanity moment, but even when she's completely insane she still throws a party.

I'll grant you Rainbow Dash (with Gilda her loyalty gets pulled two ways, for instance). Obviously there's Rarity. And Apple Jack has had a few (white lies to Pinkie Pie about construction in the barn; saying to Twilight that she doesn't need help bucking apples).

Paratroopa1 posted...
(except Applejack, who is a mary sue and never displays any flaws). Rarity goes through a lot more of them because she's Rarity.

Apple Jack isn't a Mary Sue. She's...economically right-wing, and everything that goes with that, including having a moral code about not wanting to ask for help. Including having a hard time understanding why buffalo's needs might come above the needs of an entrepreneur. Including wanting to put a paid concession stand in a catered event.

I mean, imagine if there was a disease that destroyed all the apples and hay, and Celestia started carting in food from the capital. Which pony would try to get by without the government handouts she desperately needs?

Also, aren't Mary Sue's supposed to be overpowered and all that? She's not a pegasus. She's not a unicorn. She doesn't have pinkie pie's twitch-sense. She's not well-educated. If someone's going to believe in a poor superstition (like about Zecora, for instance) it's usually her. She's not a world-traveler--in fact she's blatantly uncomfortable anywhere away from home. She doesn't win the race or the iron pony competition. In fact, she doesn't really have any Deus Ex Machina moments where she solves a problem just because she's Apple Jack. (That's a job primarily for Pinkie Pie and Twilight...and occasionally Fluttershy).

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demonfang178
11/06/11 3:12:00 PM
#36:


Silver_Ermine posted...
Paratroopa1 posted...
I feel like I'm the only person who doesn't like the songs! I mean, they're way better than songs in kid's shows usually are, but I still don't like them.

No, I don't like them either lol


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Natwaf_akidna
11/06/11 3:45:00 PM
#37:


So we're not 500-ing the other topic?

Finally watched the new ep. Yay Rarity ep! Ooh, the parents. That time, that wasn't her fault. Poor Opal. XD Melodramatic Rarity. Damn song tease >_>. That's Derpy's sis? Oh, yeah, forgot they each have to write what they've learned.

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Pirateking2000
11/06/11 4:00:00 PM
#38:


still wondering how Sweetie managed to burn juice

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red13n
11/06/11 5:38:00 PM
#39:


Listened to some of the song. Closed it out being content to know there are songs coming.

Still want a Rainbow Dash song.

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Crystal King
11/06/11 5:39:00 PM
#40:


The liquid toast was also incredibly impressive.

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rychu_supadude
11/06/11 7:36:00 PM
#41:


Finally saw the episode - it took 7 hours to download over my borked connection. Talk about worth the wait!

There is absolutely no such thing as too much Rarity. Every time that pony opens her mouth, I always end up either cackling hysterically, d'awwing, or just plain gasping with shock at some awesome moment.

I found the OMG PARENTS appearance to be particularly intriguing, given that previous episodes had Sweetie Belle showing up at Rarity's with no comment, to the point where some people could even have assumed that she already lived there.

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GenesisTwilight
11/06/11 9:55:00 PM
#42:


Whatever happened to Masterplum's watchthrough thread? I know it purged, but did he ever start another one?

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red13n
11/06/11 10:01:00 PM
#43:


I've been looking for it too, someone has to push him to continue it.

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greatone10
11/07/11 3:16:00 AM
#44:


I thought it was interesting that only two of the Mane 6 appeared. That's the lowest of any episode so far, right?

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foolm0ron
11/07/11 6:41:00 AM
#45:


From: metroid composite | #031
On the one hand, the sleepover episode is one of my favourites from season 1. I'd be curious to watch these two end to end to see whether one of them stands out (since it is a lot of the same characters and similar themes).


The sleepover episode was definitely a lot better, mostly because of the more interesting premise. "AJ vs. Rarity with Twilight being cute" makes for a funnier show than "Sweetie Belle being dumb".

The thing with the generosity though, I think she displayed it a lot in this episode, because even though Sweetie was ruining literally everything about her day, she still gave her the benefit of the doubt and didn't get mad until after Sweetie got mad. AJ was nicer, but she didn't have to deal with someone ruining all her work all day.

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foolm0ron
11/07/11 6:42:00 AM
#46:


Also this is amazing
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And I can't believe I missed that leaked song on EQD... I don't think I'm even gonna try to listen to it from that link here.

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Vengeful_KBM
11/07/11 11:13:00 PM
#47:


And now I am finally caught up with the show, so I can join these topicses!

Good episode, not one of the best, but not one of the worst. What would've made it one of the best is if Sweetie Belle had gotten her cutie mark as the last shot, but I bet they're saving that for some really epic reveal episode or some such nonsense. But yeah, I liked it. Opening stretch of Season 2 >>> Opening stretch of Season 1, although S1 got much, much better after the Trixie episode. Every episode so far this season is better than all of the first six from S1, IMO (except MAYBE Ticket Master).

Not sure which is my favorite quote from this one: "Sweetie Belle! What HAVE! I *DONE*!" or "We ARE apple pie!" Both of these made me laugh pretty hard.

Also, people do realize the "As Celestia is my witness, etc" thing is a reference to a line from Gone With the Wind, right? I just have to check - people seem to be taking some imagined "Celestia = God figure" implication from this line way too seriously.

One last thing: I can't believe there hasn't been a song already, since that's one of the best parts of the show (apart from just Pinkie Pie in general, that is), but I am content to know that Season 2 will not be songless. I won't listen to it, but I'm content to know that one is coming, as red said.
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foolm0ron
11/07/11 11:14:00 PM
#48:


Nothing worse than being so behind on EQD you need to go to the second page... SO MANY TABS

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GenesisTwilight
11/07/11 11:24:00 PM
#49:


I'm so far behind on EQD that the thought of all the stuff I have to catch up on scares me.

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foolm0ron
11/07/11 11:37:00 PM
#50:


I'm waiting until the day there are too many updates for me to handle. Ever since like March I've been at least looking at all the headlines. I usually listen to the music and I always read comics... completely ignore stories, usually ignore PMVs since they're all the same. YTPMVs I'll play for 1 second and if I hear that damn RD samplefrom Sonic Rainboom (90% likely) I stop it.

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