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blindhobo13
11/01/11 3:38:00 PM
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SpeedYoshi
11/01/11 3:38:00 PM
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she bailed on killing off 2 weasleys?

lame

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pjbasis
11/01/11 3:40:00 PM
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Should been dead since the first one.
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BestFly
11/01/11 3:40:00 PM
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Shoulda killed the entire family if she was gonna kill off 2.

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Forceful_Dragon
11/01/11 3:40:00 PM
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This is only a good thing if the end result was harry + hermione.

Still bothers me how she pairings ended up ;_;

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Natwaf_akidna
11/01/11 3:42:00 PM
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The other one was Arthur, right?

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SpeedYoshi
11/01/11 3:43:00 PM
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yes

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XIII_rocks
11/01/11 3:43:00 PM
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>_<

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SMOKEDOG42O
11/01/11 3:44:00 PM
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Ronnie the effing Bear is the man. You guys are all foolish heathens.

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Paratroopa1
11/01/11 3:48:00 PM
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I'm really glad she didn't. Character deaths are often necessary to raise the stakes and really move character development, but HP had plenty of those, especially in the last book. The three main characters making it through alive was honestly a welcome and necessary relief after the secondary character murder spree she went on in the last book.
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SpeedYoshi
11/01/11 3:51:00 PM
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Maybe she should've let all the secondary characters live and just killed ron

everybody wins

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blindhobo13
11/01/11 3:54:00 PM
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From: Paratroopa1 | #010
I'm really glad she didn't. Character deaths are often necessary to raise the stakes and really move character development, but HP had plenty of those, especially in the last book. The three main characters making it through alive was honestly a welcome and necessary relief after the secondary character murder spree she went on in the last book.


But she was planning on killing him around halfway through. Maybe if she had done that, she wouldn't have needed to dartboard the rest of the cast.
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EndOfDiscOne
11/01/11 3:54:00 PM
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Why wouldn't she want to kill the ginger?

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Paratroopa1
11/01/11 4:01:00 PM
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Killing off Ron halfway through would've been too abrupt a shift in tone too I think. The magnitude of the deaths kind of ramped up slowly from the fourth to seventh books.
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HeroDelTiempo17
11/01/11 4:05:00 PM
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From: Paratroopa1 | #010
I'm really glad she didn't. Character deaths are often necessary to raise the stakes and really move character development, but HP had plenty of those, especially in the last book. The three main characters making it through alive was honestly a welcome and necessary relief after the secondary character murder spree she went on in the last book.


I would have gladly taken Harry or Ron permanently dying over the "list of names" in the final book.

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BlackDra90n
11/01/11 4:08:00 PM
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Harry should've died.

I was so sad when he didn't.

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Liquid Wind
11/01/11 4:10:00 PM
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dunno about HP because I never really got into it but secondary characters tend to not mean much to me, killing off a bunch of lesser characters just seems like a cop out
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Bigwig_rah
11/01/11 4:12:00 PM
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Man, remember how terribly all those secondary character deaths were handled in the last movie? They all happened off-screen and then they were like "oh yeah these people died but lets not reacts now there's no time."

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VincentLauw
11/01/11 4:12:00 PM
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From: Liquid Wind | #017
dunno about HP because I never really got into it but secondary characters tend to not mean much to me, killing off a bunch of lesser characters just seems like a cop out


I think with secondary characters people here mean 'characters that aren't Harry, Ron or Hermione'

are you saying a series ending can't be good without the most important main characters dying?

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PrinceKaro
11/01/11 4:13:00 PM
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..and nothing of value would have been lost.

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Liquid Wind
11/01/11 4:18:00 PM
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are you saying a series ending can't be good without the most important main characters dying?

no, a story can be good without any characters dying at all, but killing off a bunch of secondary characters whilst the main characters make it through completely unscathed just always seems cheesy to me. again I'm not into HP myself though so I'm just speaking very generally
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Bigwig_rah
11/01/11 4:20:00 PM
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Liquid Wind posted...
are you saying a series ending can't be good without the most important main characters dying?

no, a story can be good without any characters dying at all, but killing off a bunch of secondary characters whilst the main characters make it through completely unscathed just always seems cheesy to me. again I'm not into HP myself though so I'm just speaking very generally

I see what you mean, in this case it's like some kids somehow made it through alright while a bunch of more powerful/ experienced wizards died.

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GenesisSaga
11/01/11 4:25:00 PM
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PrinceKaro posted...
..and nothing of value would have been lost.

This. Ron's been a git since the third book. He should've had one decent moment of redemption (Sword of Gryffindor moment would've sufficed) and then died. Realism is preserved, the weakest main character is removed, and life goes on.

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XIII_rocks
11/01/11 4:29:00 PM
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Ron is the best character in the series, so


OK well he's not, Snape and Luna are better, but he's like right after them

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XIII_rocks
11/01/11 4:29:00 PM
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and dumbledore

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GenesisSaga
11/01/11 4:30:00 PM
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Wow, XIII no. There are dozens of characters far more compelling, entertaining, and likable than Ron, and a third of them die.

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Biolizard28
11/01/11 4:32:00 PM
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From: BlackDra90n | #016
Harry should've died.

I was so sad when he didn't.


I agree with this.

Less sad and more disappointed.

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XIII_rocks
11/01/11 4:32:00 PM
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Ron is the most identifiable of all of them imo.

I think Ron grounds the whole thing while being great comic relief. Harry Potter without Ron is like Phoenix without...Maya (Edgeworth?), or Frodo without Sam or Ash without Brock or whatever.

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XIII_rocks
11/01/11 4:36:00 PM
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I'm quite happy Harry lived and they all lived happily ever after tbqh. This was JK Rowling staying true to the roots of the story - it's still ultimately a children's series, no matter how much universal appeal it has (and it has GREAT universal appeal).

I think the whole "it's a war, people die" thing was fine and she did enough pulling at the heartstrings with the secondary character deaths in the last book. The fact that the big 3 were all, ultimately, protected was perfect.

Having Harry pull a Neo and do the whole "heroic sacrifice" schtick...no. That's her ego going crazy, losing sight of what the series originally was.

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Liquid Wind
11/01/11 4:41:00 PM
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I'm quite happy Harry lived and they all lived happily ever after tbqh. This was JK Rowling staying true to the roots of the story - it's still ultimately a children's series

this is a modern bastardization of things, most of the fairy tales we know used to have much more death involved before disney ruined them.
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GenesisSaga
11/01/11 4:43:00 PM
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XIII_rocks posted...
Ron is the most identifiable of all of them imo.

I think Ron grounds the whole thing while being great comic relief. Harry Potter without Ron is like Phoenix without...Maya (Edgeworth?), or Frodo without Sam or Ash without Brock or whatever.

All the more reason to off him. Would've been a fantastic tone-setter. Could've shifted the overall mood from runaways trying to get a grip to strangers in a strange land that have to face this s*** being dealt to them, and it'd be the perfect thing to keep Harry grounded and focused on the task at hand, and even more driven to keep his remaining friends safe and see things through to the end. Just my take.

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Raka_Putra
11/01/11 4:44:00 PM
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I wasn't aware that Harry Potter was based on a fairy tale. >_>

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KingButz
11/01/11 4:45:00 PM
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From: Liquid Wind | #030
I'm quite happy Harry lived and they all lived happily ever after tbqh. This was JK Rowling staying true to the roots of the story - it's still ultimately a children's series

this is a modern bastardization of things, most of the fairy tales we know used to have much more death involved before disney made them appeal to children.


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XIII_rocks
11/01/11 4:48:00 PM
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From: Liquid Wind | #030
I'm quite happy Harry lived and they all lived happily ever after tbqh. This was JK Rowling staying true to the roots of the story - it's still ultimately a children's series

this is a modern bastardization of things, most of the fairy tales we know used to have much more death involved before disney ruined them.


what the hell is this

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metroid composite
11/01/11 4:50:00 PM
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SpeedYoshi posted...
Maybe she should've let all the secondary characters live and just killed ron

Would have made the book better.

Like...seriously, after a while I just didn't care when a character died. I think I would have cared more if there were one, two, or three deaths, even if they were secondary characters, not like...twenty.

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Liquid Wind
11/01/11 4:51:00 PM
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Fixed it

fairy tales were always aimed at children, the concept of death being something that you have to shield children from at all costs is a modern day american mindset, and a foolish one at that
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DoctorBIind
11/01/11 4:51:00 PM
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This is actually awful news, knowing how close we were to see Ron die. I really wish she would have went through with it.

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XIII_rocks
11/01/11 4:52:00 PM
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From: GenesisSaga | #031
All the more reason to off him. Would've been a fantastic tone-setter. Could've shifted the overall mood from runaways trying to get a grip to strangers in a strange land that have to face this s*** being dealt to them, and it'd be the perfect thing to keep Harry grounded and focused on the task at hand, and even more driven to keep his remaining friends safe and see things through to the end. Just my take.


Meh, I think the big kill in book 6 was enough of that. Harry's "last and greatest protector" dying, leaving him really to fend for himself. I think Ron dying would just reinforce an already existing theme and not bring anything new - but the aftereffects of it would be devastating and hard to really skirt past.

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metroid composite
11/01/11 4:52:00 PM
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Liquid Wind posted...
I'm quite happy Harry lived and they all lived happily ever after tbqh. This was JK Rowling staying true to the roots of the story - it's still ultimately a children's series

this is a modern bastardization of things, most of the fairy tales we know used to have much more death involved before disney ruined them.

Um....most of the fairy tales we know were not actually children's stories at all. They were adult entertainment performance, more like modern-day poetry slams.

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XIII_rocks
11/01/11 4:53:00 PM
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From: metroid composite | #035
SpeedYoshi posted...
Maybe she should've let all the secondary characters live and just killed ron

Would have made the book better.

Like...seriously, after a while I just didn't care when a character died. I think I would have cared more if there were one, two, or three deaths, even if they were secondary characters, not like...twenty.


The two that happened off-screen was kind of "what the HELL, why would you even do that", but every one that we actually saw carried great impact, I thought.

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HeroDelTiempo17
11/01/11 4:53:00 PM
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From: Liquid Wind | #017
dunno about HP because I never really got into it but secondary characters tend to not mean much to me, killing off a bunch of lesser characters just seems like a cop out


It's actually kind of the opposite with HP. At least, everyone I talked to felt that way. Starting with Book 5 she just started killing off a bunch of secondary characters that had become fan favorites.

There aren't many people I know whose favorite Harry Potter character is Harry, Ron, or Hermione!

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11/01/11 4:55:00 PM
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XIII_rocks posted...
Meh, I think the big kill in book 6 was enough of that. Harry's "last and greatest protector" dying, leaving him really to fend for himself. I think Ron dying would just reinforce an already existing theme and not bring anything new - but the aftereffects of it would be devastating and hard to really skirt past.

Yeah, if Ron were to go he should have gone in like...book 4.

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metroid composite
11/01/11 4:56:00 PM
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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
There aren't many people I know whose favorite Harry Potter character is Harry, Ron, or Hermione!

There's plenty of Hermione fans.

And a lot of fan-favourites lived, too.

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ScepterOfLove
11/01/11 4:56:00 PM
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Would have ruined my childhood tbh

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Haguile
11/01/11 4:59:00 PM
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I wouldn't mind Ron dying, to be honest. He was one of my least favorite characters in the series and one of the ones that got the most screentime.

This reminds me of the time I went to fanfiction.net(because I hate myself) and saw a story that replaced Ron with 11-year old Sherlock Holmes.
...It was quite interesting.

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XIII_rocks
11/01/11 5:01:00 PM
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This reminds me of the time I went to fanfiction.net(because I hate myself) and saw a story that replaced Ron with 11-year old Sherlock Holmes.
...It was quite interesting.

Did him and Harry get it on?

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Haguile
11/01/11 5:03:00 PM
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Not that I remember, no. The story seemed to consist mostly of Holmes being a dick to everyone.

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XIII_rocks
11/01/11 5:07:00 PM
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being a dick to everyone or putting his dick in everyone?

it's fanfiction.net, excuse me for being cynical

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Haguile
11/01/11 5:11:00 PM
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Being a dick to everyone. Or at least as far as I remember. The story was still only up to chapter 2 or so last time I checked. And your worries are justified. Fanfiction.net is a weird place.

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Mr Lasastryke
11/01/11 5:14:00 PM
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I thought Rowling did it fine - I don't see how killing off Ron would've improved on the story. No, you didn't care about the secondary characters dying, but you didn't have to.

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