Board 8 > Most Powerful Fictional Character 2011: The Host vs. RST GANON [MPFC]

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XNevermoreX
10/28/11 1:45:00 PM
#101:


Wizard Daffy (Not a real vote, mind you! This match is just pretty uninteresting.)

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KanzarisKelshen
10/28/11 1:46:00 PM
#102:


From: KamikazePotato | #098
I am 'misleading' because what everything I write is author-approved speculation.

How is this supposed to make anything better


Because you're basically asking me to portray an impossible situation since The Host has no equals and only one other character can even begin to dream of opposing Serious!Host without exploding instantly...and that's because he'd be reluctant to fight.

PS: And you're also ignoring the bottom line again and again, AKA that it doesn't matter.

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Regaro_Ukiera
10/28/11 1:47:00 PM
#103:


Kanz we've hit and exceeded the mercy rule. Like it or not, this match is over.

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GANON1025
10/28/11 1:47:00 PM
#104:


While some things I post may be a little speculative, it mostly is not and I think you have the wrong idea about what is shown.

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Pirateking2000
10/28/11 1:49:00 PM
#105:


sigh you would think that even if people are just voting for GANON for the sake of it just being GANON it could be made more I dunno interesting.

Ganon fighting magic champions to increase his arsenal before taking down host etc

sigh (and thats just for the ganon voters even though ganon would really lose but whatever)

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KanzarisKelshen
10/28/11 1:50:00 PM
#106:


From: DeathChicken | #100
So the match is literally Pirateking arguing and no one else. This is the 'discussion' putting off mercy


Wang arguing for Kurama would have put off the mercy back in Kurama/Antispiral. So yeah.

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Regaro_Ukiera
10/28/11 1:52:00 PM
#107:


it's pretty clear nobody's buying what Pirateking is selling here, Kanz. Put your biases aside like the uncorrupt host you claim to be

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KanzarisKelshen
10/28/11 1:55:00 PM
#108:


From: Regaro_Ukiera | #107
it's pretty clear nobody's buying what Pirateking is selling here, Kanz. Put your biases aside like the uncorrupt host you claim to be


Funny, this is exactly what Wang did. It paid off in Round 2, even.

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14_and_counting
10/28/11 1:55:00 PM
#109:


From: Regaro_Ukiera | #107
it's pretty clear nobody's buying what Pirateking is selling here, Kanz. Put your biases aside like the uncorrupt host you claim to be




Till Ganon voters give a reason, ALL their votes should be discounted. I'm ok with what Kanz is doing here.
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GANON1025
10/28/11 1:56:00 PM
#110:


Votes should not need a reason. Don't turn this into Mercs, it's already bad enough as-is.

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Pirateking2000
10/28/11 1:59:00 PM
#111:


Till Ganon voters give a reason,


Regaro gave a reason. It was literally because the argument being made was from me (which is wut?)

and seriously if you guys really want to help GANON at least attempt to give an argument that could buff him as much as possible (like scenario I mentioned even though I believe he would lose)

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14_and_counting
10/28/11 1:59:00 PM
#112:


From: GANON1025 | #110
Votes should not need a reason. Don't turn this into Mercs, it's already bad enough as-is.


This is why this contest is what is is. Votes SHOULD need a reason. You are voting for who you think is more powerful/would win. It kinda goes without saying there needs to be a reason why you think they would win.
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Regaro_Ukiera
10/28/11 2:00:00 PM
#113:


From: Pirateking2000 | #111
Regaro gave a reason. It was literally because the argument being made was from me (which is wut?)


I have less than zero respect for you as a person and your ability to form and present a logical argument.

also xfd mwc
again

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GANON1025
10/28/11 2:02:00 PM
#114:


People can half-ass a reason for anything, I don't think it would help out that much and would probably serve in less traffic and votes.

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LlednarTwem
10/28/11 2:02:00 PM
#115:


Pirateking2000 posted...
Till Ganon voters give a reason,


Regaro gave a reason. It was literally because the argument being made was from me (which is wut?)

and seriously if you guys really want to help GANON at least attempt to give an argument that could buff him as much as possible (like scenario I mentioned even though I believe he would lose)


Kan has already explicitly stated that GANON cannot gain power from anyone the Host subs in.

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JeffreyRaze
10/28/11 2:07:00 PM
#116:


That has basis in the RST as well, if someone with call drunken priest was defeated, the winner couldn't take any of the priest's spells for instance. Only non-interp spells (the ones listed) can be taken.

But as stated, Host is the most powerful character in the MPFC and it's only personality arguments that could stop him TBHQ. However, regardless of that this match has been mercied.

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14_and_counting
10/28/11 2:09:00 PM
#117:


From: JeffreyRaze | #116
That has basis in the RST as well, if someone with call drunken priest was defeated, the winner couldn't take any of the priest's spells for instance. Only non-interp spells (the ones listed) can be taken.

But as stated, Host is the most powerful character in the MPFC and it's only personality arguments that could stop him TBHQ. However, regardless of that this match has been mercied.




Of which there were none in this match.
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DeathChicken
10/28/11 2:12:00 PM
#118:


Alright, so apparently, this is literally just the host of the contest dragging things along in the hopes his pet character will win. Done here, then

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Pirateking2000
10/28/11 2:13:00 PM
#119:


I have less than zero respect for you as a person

GASP! Someone on this board hates me!? oh woe is me! Welp can't have everyone like you

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=P

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Regaro_Ukiera
10/28/11 2:15:00 PM
#120:


From: Pirateking2000 | #119
I have less than zero respect for you as a person

GASP! Someone on this board hates me!? oh woe is me! Welp can't have everyone like you

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=P


you're only negligibly better than the people that tiep liek dis xD ^_^


it is fun to see you throw fits, though

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Pirateking2000
10/28/11 2:19:00 PM
#121:


you're only negligibly better than the people that tiep liek dis xD ^_^


it is fun to see you throw fits, though


fits? Don't really remember any of those unless you are talking about the GL matches and to a lesser extent this match and even then I wouldn't say it was "MWC" level fits like from the Buu match

granted that match was fun as ****

dont really see it as a fit

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ToukaOone
10/28/11 2:19:00 PM
#122:


look out guys

he posted a photobucket gif

and it's not a direct link

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Regaro_Ukiera
10/28/11 2:20:00 PM
#123:


From: Pirateking2000 | #121
fits? Don't really remember any of those unless you are talking about the GL matches and to a lesser extent this match and even then I wouldn't say it was "MWC" level fits like from the Buu match


I never said you were the best for fits. I just said they were fun to watch.

MWC is god-tier when it comes to that so

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Pirateking2000
10/28/11 2:20:00 PM
#124:


look out guys

he posted a photobucket gif

and it's not a direct link


Yes FEAAAR ME!!!!

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14_and_counting
10/28/11 2:22:00 PM
#125:


From: Regaro_Ukiera | #123
I never said you were the best for fits. I just said they were fun to watch.

MWC is god-tier when it comes to that so




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MWC is god-tier

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Pirateking2000
10/28/11 2:23:00 PM
#126:


^ <facepalm>

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Regaro_Ukiera
10/28/11 2:23:00 PM
#127:


From: 14_and_counting | #125
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You might want to include the part where you're god-tier at throwing fits.

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14_and_counting
10/28/11 2:26:00 PM
#128:


From: Regaro_Ukiera | #127
You might want to include the part where you're god-tier at throwing fits.




Yeah, I might, but I doubt it.



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Regaro_Ukiera
10/28/11 2:26:00 PM
#129:


you realize that whenever anybody asks me what context that was in you're only going to look like more of a moron than you already do right

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Regaro_Ukiera
10/28/11 2:27:00 PM
#130:


From: Pirateking2000 | #129
you are also quite entertaining with your fits


you wanna see me throw a fit?

Because I promise. You haven't.

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neonreaper
10/28/11 2:28:00 PM
#131:


Regaro_Ukiera posted...
From: 14_and_counting | #125
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You might want to include the part where you're god-tier at throwing fits.


You can get him warned for harassment at this point if you're bored and I imagine lefty is already on the case

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14_and_counting
10/28/11 2:28:00 PM
#132:


From: Regaro_Ukiera | #130
you realize that whenever anybody asks me what context that was in you're only going to look like more of a moron than you already do right




This implies people care enough about you to want your opinion. I'm not banking on that.

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Pirateking2000
10/28/11 2:30:00 PM
#133:


I never said you were the best for fits. I just said they were fun to watch.

MWC is god-tier when it comes to that so


you are also quite entertaining with your fits for awhile anyway

Now then I grow bored. I was hoping to at least have an entertaining match and could go into some REALLLLY wtf areas like "Us from an alternate universe want to see Host win and are part of the same audience etc" but whatever if at least a future match could provide me with SOME entertainment than mercying this match would be best (since this match has essentially been like three people posting anything relating to an argument and everyone else just voting GANON because GANON)

so lets get this rolling =P

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Regaro_Ukiera
10/28/11 2:30:00 PM
#134:


From: neonreaper | #132
Regaro_Ukiera posted...
From: 14_and_counting | #125
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You might want to include the part where you're god-tier at throwing fits.


You can get him warned for harassment at this point if you're bored and I imagine lefty is already on the case


....that's far more tempting than any reasonable alternative

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Pirateking2000
10/28/11 2:34:00 PM
#135:


you wanna see me throw a fit?

Because I promise. You haven't.


ohohoho and you thought anything I did were fits?

well anyway I rather not see this degrade to you me MWC etc barking at each other and making everyone else facepalm at the idiocy

as I said last post mercy this due to boredom and at least getting some fun entertainment out of some of the matches before this goes back to a mercyfest (if future matches aren't already mercyfests)

so much for my Super Elder Demon Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann XLR argument for the finals XD

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Regaro_Ukiera
10/28/11 2:36:00 PM
#136:


when I throw fits things get very messy, multiple gamefaqs accounts get warned, and I feel like not interacting with people for days after the fact.

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Pirateking2000
10/28/11 2:36:00 PM
#137:


You can get him warned for harassment at this point if you're bored and I imagine lefty is already on the case

MWC is disliked that much? Thought it was just MPFC (which sometimes brings out the worst in all of us lol)

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Regaro_Ukiera
10/28/11 2:37:00 PM
#138:


From: Pirateking2000 | #137
MWC is disliked that much? Thought it was just MPFC (which sometimes brings out the worst in all of us lol)


MWC makes a strong case for most hated user on the board at times.

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Kenri
10/28/11 2:38:00 PM
#139:


MWC is actually pretty inoffensive in MPFC.

By which I mean, he rarely wishes death on entire cities for supporting Yuki Nagato or whatever.

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14_and_counting
10/28/11 2:42:00 PM
#140:


From: Regaro_Ukiera | #138
MWC makes a strong case for most hated user on the board at times.


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Pirateking2000
10/28/11 2:42:00 PM
#141:


when I throw fits things get very messy, multiple gamefaqs accounts get warned, and I feel like not interacting with people for days after the fact.


pics or it didn't happen!

jk as I said we could spend the rest of this topic talking around each other blah blah blah with the occasional MWC sucks thrown in by spectators but I would rather it not come to that etc

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Panthera
10/28/11 2:48:00 PM
#142:


I'm disappointed that apparently the Host went out and lost and the question I asked in his prior matches about whether "the audience" is meant to be an actual entity in his origin story or not was never answered.

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Pirateking2000
10/28/11 2:54:00 PM
#143:


I'm disappointed that apparently the Host went out and lost and the question I asked in his prior matches about whether "the audience" is meant to be an actual entity in his origin story or not was never answered.

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JeffreyRaze
10/28/11 2:59:00 PM
#145:


Hey Kanz, random question. Could Host destroy all of his infinite magnaverse in an instant? It not, around how many universes could he obliterate at once, if any?

I'm trying to figure out how he compares to my most powerful characters, not including Ultima.

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XIII_rocks
10/28/11 3:03:00 PM
#146:


From: 14_and_counting | #112
This is why this contest is what is is. Votes SHOULD need a reason. You are voting for who you think is more powerful/would win. It kinda goes without saying there needs to be a reason why you think they would win.


Fine.

I vote GANON because of Infinite Sun of Nothing. Same reason he would beat Buu. Simple.

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Kinglicious
10/28/11 3:05:00 PM
#147:


Y'knoiw the one thing kan was right on was not mercying then as mercy isn't just a vote quota. Same thing could happen to characters nit the host. Though mind you, nobody is gonna argue for him and it wouldn't be wrong to now, as that fact was made pretty explicitly

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EmDubyaSee
10/28/11 3:09:00 PM
#148:


From: XIII_rocks | #146
Fine.

I vote GANON because of Infinite Sun of Nothing. Same reason he would beat Buu. Simple.




Don't get me wrong, you are wrong, but I can at least respect this.


You gave a reason he would win. That needs to happen more in this contest.

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KanzarisKelshen
10/28/11 3:10:00 PM
#149:


From: Panthera | #142
I'm disappointed that apparently the Host went out and lost and the question I asked in his prior matches about whether "the audience" is meant to be an actual entity in his origin story or not was never answered.


The Audience is you and everybody else if that helps any.

From: Ed Bellis | #144
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Okay. So I'll go by what you just said then:

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This is an impossible character. Like, literally impossible. His appearance in MPFC is tantamount to saying that he can do anything and win any match if he feels like it. It entirely boils down to personality - or rather, people's interpretations of his personality. I am all about factoring personality into a match, but you also can't totally ignore powers - you need both. And the Host entirely operates on personality. He is, as you continuously keep reminding us, the strongest character in the entire contest, but he might lose if he feels like it. That kind of crap has no basis in MPFC. Even past troll MPFC characters have needed some semblance of arguments and sway to get going. All you have to do with the Host is go "the Host would do ____ because he thinks ____." That's it. It's awful. I didn't "forget about how he operates" - this is how he operates in the context of MPFC, and that's all I care about.


Or maybe you didn't read. AGAIN.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nemesis_Kid

This guy. The Host fights like this guy, for MPFC purposes. Think as if the opposing entrant was facing this guy. How is this so hard to understand?

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KanzarisKelshen
10/28/11 3:13:00 PM
#150:


(Incidentally, discussion finally HAS quieted down again so I am putting the next match up in an hour or less, but yeah. People are so damn thick - how is the concept of 'Nemesis Fighter' hard to understand? I'm nominating one for next contest, just to hammer it in that yes, sometimes you have to consider personalities and not powersuits.)

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