Board 8 > World of Warcraft on its last legs.

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red13n
10/21/11 3:30:00 PM
#1:


Seriously blizzard. From big giant dragons of awesome to that?

Really.

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Pirateking2000
10/21/11 3:31:00 PM
#2:


Im still waiting to see how TOR is gonna be. Cmonnnn December 20th lol

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Wedge Antilles
10/21/11 3:32:00 PM
#3:


The forums are up in arms and it's quite hilarious. Someone (or several someones) may lose their job over this one.

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Inviso
10/21/11 3:32:00 PM
#4:


They're FINALLY giving us a monk class. Monks are awesome!

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PartOfYourWorld
10/21/11 3:33:00 PM
#5:


Details plz. Ya'll know this board doesn't follow WoW but loves WoW drama.

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Pirateking2000
10/21/11 3:34:00 PM
#6:


My sister told me it was something about

Going from Giant world destroying dragons

to pandas

with another 5 levels (level cap 90)

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TheNinJa7777
10/21/11 3:35:00 PM
#7:


lol @ people not knowing Pandarens

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TheRock1525
10/21/11 3:35:00 PM
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Are they robot pandas?

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red13n
10/21/11 3:36:00 PM
#9:


The most exciting WoW announcement is Companion Pet Pokemon.

Everything else. Just. Awful.

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YetAnothrShadow
10/21/11 3:36:00 PM
#10:


People don't like the pandas?

I was under the impression it was the most requested race.

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Pirateking2000
10/21/11 3:38:00 PM
#11:


Yeah I would like more details as well aside from it being about pandas and level 90 cap.

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Forceful_Dragon
10/21/11 3:40:00 PM
#12:


red views WoW from a different lens than most.

Red wants epic high end raids and lots of them. New classes hold nothing of value in his eyes.

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Wedge Antilles
10/21/11 3:40:00 PM
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The pandas are pretty much the big thing. We go from a giant dragon out to wipe out everything alive to a bunch of kung fu pands with some kind of chinese setting. They've basically added in their version of pokemon, and the expansion as a whole just has a very silly attitude to it.

Go to mmo-champion.com and look for the trailer if you want.

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Iamdead7
10/21/11 3:42:00 PM
#14:


I'm ok with all of this, but I still feel like they're going to tell us this is all a joke tomorrow

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red13n
10/21/11 3:42:00 PM
#15:


red views WoW from a different lens than most.

Red wants epic high end raids and lots of them. New classes hold nothing of value in his eyes.


I wanted them to close out some of the storylines they've had hanging over us.

Instead we got Pandas.

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WazzupGenius00
10/21/11 3:43:00 PM
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From: red13n | #015
I wanted them to close out some of the storylines they've had hanging over us.

Instead we got Pandas.


well what, is this the very last expansion for WoW or something? Can't they close those out in the next expansion?

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red13n
10/21/11 3:44:00 PM
#17:


Also for those that dont want to go to mmo-champion, heres companion pet pokemon:

Pet Battle System

* You will be able to collect, level, and battle with companion pets.
* It will be accessible to all players.
* Works with almost every pet
* Pet Customization, you will be able to name your pet, give them visual abilities, etc ...
* There will be "Wild pets", you can find them in the world and engage in battle with them. You will then be able to get that pet and add it to your Pet Journal.
* Pets have random stats, some of them will be very good at tanking, some will have a CC ability, etc ...
* Some pets will only be found during a specific season, while it's raining, or during the day or the night. Some of them will only spawn in the spring, when it's raining, in elwynn forest at night!
* Most pets will become tradable, even after it's leveled, etc ...
* Pets will be account wide
* Your pet journal will display info on all your pets, including stats, skills, and also drop locations and lore info for the pets you don't have yet!
* Winning battles earns you experience, and levels your pets.
* You will learn new abilities. Every pet can use 3 abilities in a battle at one time.
* Every time you level you will also increase the stats of your pet.
* You will level multiple pets to build your team.
* You have 3 battle slots, one for each pet in your team.


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TheNinJa7777
10/21/11 3:44:00 PM
#18:


Nobody has said that any of that isn't going to happen though. We know literally nothing about what exactly is going to happen lorewise

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SpeedYoshi
10/21/11 3:45:00 PM
#19:


From: Inviso | #004
They're FINALLY giving us a monk class. Monks are awesome!


If they had done this in WotLK I probably would have played.

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vcharon
10/21/11 3:46:00 PM
#20:


I feel a little sick to my stomach on this, but part of me does think it looks pretty good. Still, it's a disastrous exercise in PR. This won't go over well, and this will cause subscriptions to plummet.

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red13n
10/21/11 3:46:00 PM
#21:


Nobody has said that any of that isn't going to happen though. We know literally nothing about what exactly is going to happen lorewise

Pandaria has literally had no importance in anything ever aside from people liking pandas and it being a way for blizzard to put a panda model in the game.

It is literally a joke location.

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VincentLauw
10/21/11 3:47:00 PM
#22:


From: vcharon | #021
I feel a little sick to my stomach on this, but part of me does think it looks pretty good. Still, it's a disastrous exercise in PR. This won't go over well, and this will cause subscriptions to plummet.


Why? Seriously I don't get it? (never played WoW)

Isn't the game still thriving and doesn't it have millions of players?

Why would they all quit because of one expansion?

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SpeedYoshi
10/21/11 3:48:00 PM
#23:


Also i thought Emerald Dream was supposed to come

or Maelstorm

or something >_>

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vcharon
10/21/11 3:48:00 PM
#24:


I personally was really hoping for Emerald Dream based expansion or revisiting Outland for another showdown with the Legion; plenty of loose ends to tie up there and you'd really think they would.

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beavis666x2
10/21/11 3:49:00 PM
#25:


Pandaren drunken master.

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10/21/11 3:51:00 PM
#26:


Oh man, I hadn't heard anything about anything. I stopped playing just after Cataclysm came out, I'd better get myself updated.

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red13n
10/21/11 3:51:00 PM
#27:


Isn't the game still thriving and doesn't it have millions of players?

While they still had a high peak subscriber count for Cataclysm, subscriber retention has been plummeting.

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Forceful_Dragon
10/21/11 3:52:00 PM
#28:


From: red13n | #015
I wanted them to close out some of the storylines they've had hanging over us.

Instead we got Pandas.






That doesn't mean you aren't getting new raids and any plot development on those same storylines.

They aren't going to market an expansion by saying "HEY REMEMBER THAT RAID THAT ONLY A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF YOU BOTHERED TO COMPLETE ON HEROIC? YEAH WE'RE GONNA TIE UP THOSE LOOSE ENDS"

that isn't going to sell. It doesn't mean they aren't doing it, just that they aren't making that the focus.

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WazzupGenius00
10/21/11 3:52:00 PM
#29:


From: VincentLauw | #023
Why? Seriously I don't get it? (never played WoW)

Isn't the game still thriving and doesn't it have millions of players?

Why would they all quit because of one expansion?


these are WoW subscribers we're talking about

they're not particularly stable mentally

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VincentLauw
10/21/11 3:53:00 PM
#30:


From: WazzupGenius00 | #030
these are WoW subscribers we're talking about

they're not particularly stable mentally


yeah and some of them (if not most) are extremely addicted to the game, which means they will whine all they want but still play it at the end of the day

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vcharon
10/21/11 3:54:00 PM
#31:


To be fair, complaints against Cataclysm are bogus. There's nothing wrong with the Cata expansion, it's just that when your lead villains and faces before that expansion are Illidan and Arthas, it's hard to do much without them. This "well no there's no big bad guy" thing shocks me a bit, but the game isn't going to die. It's still too popular to really die, and besides being completely jokey on the part of Pandaren, the rest of the expansion so far looks fine.

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red13n
10/21/11 3:56:00 PM
#32:


the rest of the expansion so far looks fine.

The whole expansion takes place in a joke area.

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vcharon
10/21/11 3:57:00 PM
#33:


red13n posted...
The whole expansion takes place in a joke area.

Visually it is appealing. There's nothing inherently wrong with the area.

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10/21/11 3:59:00 PM
#34:


Okay, so... They're seriously going to take what started as an April Fools joke that didn't even know the difference between Chinese and Japanese culture (originally the Panderan were samurai, as I recall), and make an entire expansion out of that? I mean... really? They could have explored the Burning Legion's base and the Draenei homeworld of Argus, or something that can be taken completely seriously, and instead we get pandas years after people stopped asking for them?

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Justin_Crossing
10/21/11 4:00:00 PM
#35:


From: red13n | #015
red views WoW from a different lens than most.

Red wants epic high end raids and lots of them. New classes hold nothing of value in his eyes.


I wanted them to close out some of the storylines they've had hanging over us.

Instead we got Pandas.


The storylines will be closed out, assuming you means one like Garrosh vs. Sylvanas and the like. They explicitly said the lore surrounding this xpac is more alliance vs. horde as opposed to having a "big bad".

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KimPilgrim
10/21/11 4:01:00 PM
#36:


I don't pretend to be a WoW fanatic, but I can say with absolutely certainty that the number one biggest demand the just under 10 people I know who play the game have had since day 1 has been Pandarians, and that it is above and beyond the most requested class.

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Forceful_Dragon
10/21/11 4:05:00 PM
#37:


From: KimPilgrim | #037
I don't pretend to be a WoW fanatic, but I can say with absolutely certainty that the number one biggest demand the just under 10 people I know who play the game have had since day 1 has been Pandarians, and that it is above and beyond the most requested class.




It is also the most requested RACE.

>_>

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red13n
10/21/11 4:06:00 PM
#38:



The storylines will be closed out, assuming you means one like Garrosh vs. Sylvanas and the like. They explicitly said the lore surrounding this xpac is more alliance vs. horde as opposed to having a "big bad".


Alliance vs Horde hasnt been compelling for a long time.

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YetAnothrShadow
10/21/11 4:07:00 PM
#39:


Again I have to ask. Wasn't the pandas the most request race?

Just searching " Pandarens wow " brings up a article asking " When will Panderens be in WoW.

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foolm0ron
10/21/11 4:09:00 PM
#40:


So you mean the game no one was talking about anymore is now being talked about by EVERYONE?

How is this bad for Blizzard?

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Justin_Crossing
10/21/11 4:09:00 PM
#41:


From: red13n | #039

The storylines will be closed out, assuming you means one like Garrosh vs. Sylvanas and the like. They explicitly said the lore surrounding this xpac is more alliance vs. horde as opposed to having a "big bad".


Alliance vs Horde hasnt been compelling for a long time.


it was until garrosh

the thrall/jaina/varian dynamic was p cool

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Pirateking2000
10/21/11 4:10:00 PM
#42:


<checks the TOR board>

seems angry WoW players have gone over there to voice their displeasure and how they are going to TOR now

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vcharon
10/21/11 4:11:00 PM
#43:


I remember when all those angry WoW players went over to that Rift game when it was coming out. I wonder what ever happened there.

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KimPilgrim
10/21/11 4:11:00 PM
#44:


From: Forceful_Dragon | #038
It is also the most requested RACE.

>_>


WHATEVS BRO

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red13n
10/21/11 4:16:00 PM
#45:


How is this bad for Blizzard?

Because a good chunk of the talk involves "oh hey TOR comes out in a couple months".

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Justin_Crossing
10/21/11 4:19:00 PM
#46:


and then they'll realize TOR is a totally different game and come back to WoW

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My Immortal
10/21/11 4:20:00 PM
#47:


Huh? I quit because of how massively disappointing Cataclysm was and this looks AMAZING to me. >.> Probably going to get my business back.

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red13n
10/21/11 4:20:00 PM
#48:


I don't pretend to be a WoW fanatic, but I can say with absolutely certainty that the number one biggest demand the just under 10 people I know who play the game have had since day 1 has been Pandarians, and that it is above and beyond the most requested class.

People like Pandas.

Now, they could give us Pandas, and then not dedicate a whole damn expansion to their area that no one gave a damn about.

I mean, they gave us Blood Elves, they'd been pretty much everywhere for awhile. They gave us Worgen, they'd had a big giant wall taunting us for years. They gave us Goblins, they'd pretty much been everywhere anyways(And were in fact blizzards failed attempt at giving us a compelling neutral faction). They gave us space goats...they came from umm, space. None of these had an entire damn expansion dedicated to their area. The space goats came out of nowhere, and they werent and never will be a compelling race.

knowing that, why the hell would they give us an expansion that literally comes out of nowhere.

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Naomi_Diamond
10/21/11 4:21:00 PM
#49:


Yeah, I'm liking what I'm seeing. I agree with MI. I'll be getting back into the game after this.

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My Immortal
10/21/11 4:21:00 PM
#50:


The space goats came out of nowhere, and they werent and never will be a compelling race.

Lawl @ you. Draenei are the best race in WoW.

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