Board 8 > Gotta say, I'm impressed with how badly they botched the CE of Dark Souls.

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Wanglicious
10/03/11 4:15:00 PM
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initially, Dark Souls was gonna be with a tin case, sleeve, strategy guide, art book, soundtrack, and a behind the scenes dvd all in 1 package.

initially, if you pre-ordered you'd get bumped up to it free.


then the guide became a mini guide of what we now know is basically future press's full guide.
said mini guide became digital.
the CD became digital.
the soundtrack became digital.

so now it's just a tin case + sleeve + art book.

and it turns out it's actually pretty limited and they're only doing a couple retailers, and not everyone who did pre-order is gonna get it. orders will be canceled of course - and newegg especially manned up and gave $20 to everyone who did - but that's a pretty impressive collapse on their end.

>.> i for one will happily take my $20 and get it for half price come November too.

just an all around an impressive way they turned that.

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GANON1025
10/03/11 4:16:00 PM
#2:


Don't like it, don't buy it.

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Ayuyu
10/03/11 4:17:00 PM
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Free stuff, who cares.

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Wanglicious
10/03/11 4:20:00 PM
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free swag is always important.
though when said free swag ends up going from 'yeah sure you all totally get all this!' to 'well... except all that's not really the same anymore...' to '..yeaaahh..... about that... you probably don't get it at all' it's pretty entertaining.

but hey, $20.

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Sorozone
10/03/11 4:21:00 PM
#5:


From: Wanglicious | #001
and it turns out it's actually pretty limited and they're only doing a couple retailers


To be fair, their website did list only 4 retailers about pre orders on this(Amazon, Best Buy, Gamestop and Wal-mart).
So unless something changed recently that I don't know about, Newegg and other retailers that were not listed shouldn't have been doing the CE upgrade.
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KimPilgrim
10/03/11 4:23:00 PM
#6:


Uh where did you get this info?

Because I'm fairly certain everything you just said is wrong.

Nothing in this CE is digital.

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Ayuyu
10/03/11 4:24:00 PM
#7:


We will know..

TOMORROW !

HYPE

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Wanglicious
10/03/11 4:25:00 PM
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except by their own words they said all pre-orders would get the upgrade. they didn't say 'from these select guys!' newegg, target, k-mart, etc all pretty much got the shaft there. when Atlus does pre-order bonuses through amazone or gamestop, they make it pretty explicit that it's only a bonus through 'em. these guys didn't.

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Wanglicious
10/03/11 4:27:00 PM
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...i'm surprised you didn't know any of that ltm. only the last part - the cancellations - is relatively new.

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Sorozone
10/03/11 4:28:00 PM
#10:


Yeah their website even says:

Dark Souls Collector's Edition Includes:

Special Designed Metal Tin Case & Protective Sleeve
Dark Souls Game
Mini-Strategy Guide*
Custom Art Book
Original Game Soundtrack*
Behind-The-Scenes Videos*

In stores October 4, 2011 *The Mini-Strategy Guide, Original Game Soundtrack & Behind-The-Scenes Videos are provided for digital download via a uniquely redeemable online code printed on a specially marked card inside each Collector Edition box.

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KimPilgrim
10/03/11 4:30:00 PM
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It's not an issue of me not knowing, it's an issue of me believing you are misinformed. I am unable to find any info whatsoever implying that these are now digital.

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WazzupGenius00
10/03/11 4:30:00 PM
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^lol

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TheRock1525
10/03/11 4:31:00 PM
#13:


LtM: literally in denial.

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KimPilgrim
10/03/11 4:31:00 PM
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From: Sorozone | #010
Yeah their website even says:

Dark Souls Collector's Edition Includes:

Special Designed Metal Tin Case & Protective Sleeve
Dark Souls Game
Mini-Strategy Guide*
Custom Art Book
Original Game Soundtrack*
Behind-The-Scenes Videos*

In stores October 4, 2011 *The Mini-Strategy Guide, Original Game Soundtrack & Behind-The-Scenes Videos are provided for digital download via a uniquely redeemable online code printed on a specially marked card inside each Collector Edition box.


Is there anything implying that you are not getting a digital version to go with your physical one? Special editions do that all the time. pretty much everywhere.

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Wanglicious
10/03/11 4:31:00 PM
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though uh, there's one weird exception. europe apparently is actually getting some physical goodies. i think the differences go they get a weaker case, but the making of DVD as a physical copy. possibly the CD as well. guide's digital for both though.

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Achromatic
10/03/11 4:32:00 PM
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People literally complaining about anything free: amazing.
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StealThisSheen
10/03/11 4:32:00 PM
#17:


KimPilgrim posted...
Uh where did you get this info?

Because I'm fairly certain everything you just said is wrong.

Nothing in this CE is digital.



This has been known for awhile now.

Like, people on the board were complaining about it a month ago.



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KamikazePotato
10/03/11 4:32:00 PM
#18:


Achromatic posted...
People literally complaining about anything free: amazing.

This.

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Wanglicious
10/03/11 4:33:00 PM
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....dude, it's literally been that way for months. it's been a slow, progressive burn as they X'd out piece by piece and made a weird split with Europe. i mean by all means, if you reallly wanted this Day 1 in the first place, the art book and tin case might be nice swag (depends on the art book, if they skimp on that add another one)! but the rest... weell....

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TheRock1525
10/03/11 4:35:00 PM
#20:


KamikazePotato posted...
Achromatic posted...
People literally complaining about anything free: amazing.

This.


Doesn't the CE cost more than the standard? It ain't exactly free!

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Ayuyu
10/03/11 4:35:00 PM
#21:


The only thing I care about is the Art Book and the better case.

I'll get the Hard Cover guide soon enough and I'm not gonna listen to a soundtrack CD ever, having it digital is better, same for Behind the Scene.

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KamikazePotato
10/03/11 4:36:00 PM
#22:


TheRock1525 posted...
KamikazePotato posted...
Achromatic posted...
People literally complaining about anything free: amazing.

This.

Doesn't the CE cost more than the standard? It ain't exactly free!


Nope.

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Sorozone
10/03/11 4:36:00 PM
#23:


Not for this, if you pre ordered, they upgrade you to the CE for free, so it costs as much as a regular edition would.
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Ayuyu
10/03/11 4:36:00 PM
#24:


TheRock1525 posted...
KamikazePotato posted...
Achromatic posted...
People literally complaining about anything free: amazing.

This.

Doesn't the CE cost more than the standard? It ain't exactly free!


Nope, all Dark Souls pre-order are upgraded to CE for free.

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KimPilgrim
10/03/11 4:36:00 PM
#25:


From: TheRock1525 | #020
KamikazePotato posted...
Achromatic posted...
People literally complaining about anything free: amazing.

This.


Doesn't the CE cost more than the standard? It ain't exactly free!


No, it's the same cost, unless you were lame and didn't preorder before last week.

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StealThisSheen
10/03/11 4:36:00 PM
#26:


I'm not getting Dark Souls and don't even care.

I just like seeing LtM in denial.



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TheRock1525
10/03/11 4:37:00 PM
#27:


Well I didn't preorder it because I wasn't very interested in the game so I wasn't unaware.

That seems to be the thing now. I preorder Assassin's Creed Revelations because of the free upgrade to the special edition which is friggin' awesome. Dragon Age II had the same thing, I believe.

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Ayuyu
10/03/11 4:38:00 PM
#28:


KimPilgrim posted...
From: TheRock1525 | #020
KamikazePotato posted...
Achromatic posted...
People literally complaining about anything free: amazing.

This.

Doesn't the CE cost more than the standard? It ain't exactly free!
No, it's the same cost, unless you were lame and didn't preorder before last week.


I pre-ordered it 2 days ago (well I pre-ordered it much sooner but I switched from Amazon to Gamestop).

The employee told me he'd give me the PS3 CE he was supposed to get since he decided to get it on 360 instead.

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Wanglicious
10/03/11 4:38:00 PM
#29:


pfft, i ain't complaining as i got $20 out of it. better deal considering what they X'd out.
however if all of it were still what it originally was stated as, i don't think i could say that.


though people absolutely have a right to complain about it as it's a matter of value. if you would not have pre-ordered it were it not for what was originally stated, then you can complain. thankfully nobody's getting charged for the places that are getting only the regular edition, but if you're like ltm here and didn't know that they gimped most of what was stated, and would've been fine with waiting it out for a sale?

yeah. you'd have every right to complain about that.

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Ayuyu
10/03/11 4:38:00 PM
#30:


TheRock1525 posted...
Well I didn't preorder it because I wasn't very interested in the game so I wasn't unaware.

That seems to be the thing now. I preorder Assassin's Creed Revelations because of the free upgrade to the special edition which is friggin' awesome. Dragon Age II had the same thing, I believe.


But Pre-ordering Dragon Age II is like pre-ordering a bucket of feces, the bonus swag is just there trying to hide the feces.

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KimPilgrim
10/03/11 4:39:00 PM
#31:


If this stuff is digital then it's fine, I was never going to use any of the things being listed as digital here in the first place. It's just not a sure thing yet.

Even with no bells and whistles, Dark Souls is pretty much guaranteed to be the greatest game ever made regardless.

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TheRock1525
10/03/11 4:40:00 PM
#32:


Ayuyu posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
Well I didn't preorder it because I wasn't very interested in the game so I wasn't unaware.

That seems to be the thing now. I preorder Assassin's Creed Revelations because of the free upgrade to the special edition which is friggin' awesome. Dragon Age II had the same thing, I believe.

But Pre-ordering Dragon Age II is like pre-ordering a bucket of feces, the bonus swag is just there trying to hide the feces.


But I actually enjoyed Dragon Age II quite a bit more than the first one!

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Wanglicious
10/03/11 4:44:00 PM
#33:


well sure, if you're a person who were going to pre-order it regardless then of course it's nice if you got the bonuses. if you didn't, well it's fair to be pissed since you got the short end of the stick. but pre-order bonuses exist to get people to frontload their money when the game is at its most expensive. if you're one who'd do it regardless, it matters less to you. if you're not, then no, it isn't 'free.' it's the value which you would've waited on.

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TheRock1525
10/03/11 4:47:00 PM
#34:


True, if the pre-order bonuses were enough to push you to preorder as opposed to waiting for a cheaper version down the line, then yeah, it sucks.

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KimPilgrim
10/03/11 4:49:00 PM
#35:


Eh, I mostly use Gamefly nowadays. If I'm not buying a game the day it comes out, I'm not buying it at all. Sonic Generations and Dark Souls are the only 2 games currently announced that I plan on picking up.

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GranzonEx
10/03/11 4:49:00 PM
#36:


It's Namco, what do you expect? If this thing doesn't sell over 2m for them they will probably never talk to FS ever again.

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dragon22391
10/03/11 4:50:00 PM
#37:


I can't imagine caring even the slightest little bit about a physical copy of the CD/Soundtrack. All that would've hapless is they would've went in my laptop and then gotten scratched and forgotten in some lOnely corner of the house. The guide is a bit disappointing, but not that big of a deal.

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WazzupGenius00
10/03/11 4:51:00 PM
#38:


And now people are reporting that Best Buy had both the Standard and Collector's Edition under the same SKU which means people's orders have possibly been screwed up

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dragon22391
10/03/11 4:51:00 PM
#39:


Happened* accursed phone.

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Wanglicious
10/03/11 4:57:00 PM
#40:


psh, that's where you're wrong numbers! there are 2 perks to it:

1) the physical item itself holds far more value. and i don't mean this just on a personal level, but money. a good collection can at least you get some nice change out of it.

2) the quality of the tracks. you are most likely not downloading lossless material. with the physical CD you can make perfect copies exactly as they ought to be, with nothing lost.

of course, if they offer it in a lossless format, 2 can go away. 1 won't however.

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KimPilgrim
10/03/11 4:58:00 PM
#41:


I already have the Dark Souls soundtrack lol

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Wanglicious
10/03/11 5:02:00 PM
#42:


the digital soundtrack ain't hard to find, no. which also kills the value really in that you can find it everywhere and will find it everywhere, so it's not really a 'bonus.'

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Wanglicious
10/03/11 5:44:00 PM
#43:


so did anyone else not know this.

though i do look forward to seeing CAG explode in rage at best buy again. newegg gave us money. whoever complains to that is insane.

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KimPilgrim
10/03/11 5:45:00 PM
#44:


CAG?

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Sorozone
10/03/11 5:47:00 PM
#45:


I'm guessing it's Cheap Ass Gamer.
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Wanglicious
10/03/11 5:48:00 PM
#46:


...man, how'd you find out about the book depositry sale outside of CAG? and yes, cheap ass gamer.
i mean yes you still were wrong with the better sale at the time - there was a 10% off - but it didn't really matter after a certain point. i expected a follow up topic from you too when they kept lowering the prices! $17 and change for the CE guide, delicious.

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Wanglicious
10/04/11 7:22:00 PM
#47:


seems some from amazon also had their orders botched. and i stand corrected there - some people got screwed there too.

of course the usual of 'call and email amazon to complain' works to get some credit.

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