I am thinking no. How many Ivy League universities are there in California? Florida? Texas? Wyoming? Let me give you a hint: none. The Northeast probably has the highest concentration of highly educated people because of the elite universities here. I don't know, what do you think?
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From what I've heard, most of the best engineering universities are in Texas. And the only things I really care about are chemistry and chem/aerospace engineering, so yay!
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since ivy league is largely based on when it was formed (hint, before universities in other places existed) this is really not a fair argument in the least.
California has UCLA, USC, Berkley. And from the propaganda I hear on campus, California State University Long Beach is one of the best public universities in the country
no there aren't. only elite ivy league schools are good.
Colegreen_c12 posted... since ivy league is largely based on when it was formed (hint, before universities in other places existed) this is really not a fair argument in the least.
well, no, Cornell was formed in the mid-19th century after a bunch of other "respected" schools like, for example, the University of Michigan (LOL). but you're almost right. it was really formed because these were the schools that usually played each other in sporting events - it started as HYP and Columbia (IIRC) and then Brown (the best school in the country), Dartmouth, UPenn and Cornell joined in.
From: CharCustomZaku | #011 California has UCLA, USC, Berkley. And from the propaganda I hear on campus, California State University Long Beach is one of the best public universities in the country
Wow, schools so terrible that they go by initials to hide their shame.
Mershaaay posted... WalrusJump posted... and to be fair MIT and Stanford are usually considered part of the "Ivy Plus" but MIT kids have no social life
Go to a party at MIT and tell me this
I know that MIT kids do coke and stuff at their parties because they're so stressed out
I considered applying there but didn't
I almost went to Michigan too, it has the best math department out of all the schools I got in and that's my major/concentration.
I almost went to Michigan as well, but UConn offered me more money and they both have very respectful Actuarial Science programs.
It has always been my opinion that viewing schools in a general manner is mostly unhelpful unless you truly have no idea what you want to be majoring in. Of course the Ivy League schools, MIT, Stanford, etc. will tend to have the stronger programs, but the main thing that's important is viewing the schools at a less general level and sticking to comparing schools by the program that you're actually interested in.
This became apparent to me when trying to find schools that had strong programs in Actuarial Science. Almost none of the "good universities" even had a program at all. It's pretty much unfair to state that a school sucks (unless you happen to know the strength of every one of the programs offered there) or that the Ivy Leagues are the only good universities in the country.
I am well aware that my school isn't regarded very highly and I'm sick of needing to explain why I'm here while my two best friends attend Harvard and Columbia. It's all about the program.
I'm fine with going to a top 50 public university that won't break my ass but will still allow me the same job I could get going to Ivy League schools.
In other words, TC can suck my dick.
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Ivy League schools are overrated. A kid at my school who was only 40 points away from a perfect score on the SAT, had the highest GPA possible/was valedictorian, was on NHS, and did plenty of clubs didn't get accepted to any.
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whatisurnameplz posted... Ivy League schools are overrated. A kid at my school who was only 40 points away from a perfect score on the SAT, had the highest GPA possible/was valedictorian, was on NHS, and did plenty of clubs didn't get accepted to any.
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Midwest has plenty of good big state schools and many fine private institutions (one of which I go to)
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Mershaaay posted... whatisurnameplz posted... Ivy League schools are overrated. A kid at my school who was only 40 points away from a perfect score on the SAT, had the highest GPA possible/was valedictorian, was on NHS, and did plenty of clubs didn't get accepted to any.
Not everyone can be like us, or else we would no longer be "elite"
Meanwhile, my friend's girlfriend wasn't in the top 200 of her high school class and got into Harvard because her dad is rich. Ivy leagues don't have the most noble definition of "elite."
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tyder21 posted... I am well aware that my school isn't regarded very highly and I'm sick of needing to explain why I'm here while my two best friends attend Harvard and Columbia. It's all about the program.
for grad school, but for undergrad it's not as important. I suspect that all the relevant actuarial courses would be offered in different departments at other schools (probably math/econ).
Michigan's math department is more highly regarded than Brown's but I chose Brown because of the whole experience and because any difference at the undergrad level is minimal. also I'm taking two math courses, a physics course and a cs course next semester here and I wouldn't be able to do that at a school with gen-eds.
^5 sephg, although I don't know if any school that plays pong/beirut with paddles can truly be classified as elite
red sox 777 posted... If it was about being elite, you should throw out Cornell and add Stanford. Though it obviously wouldn't work as an athletic conference.
Cornell is becoming elite too - one of my best friends, who goes to Yale, didn't get in there.
tyder21 posted... I almost went to Michigan as well, but UConn offered me more money and they both have very respectful Actuarial Science programs.
It has always been my opinion that viewing schools in a general manner is mostly unhelpful unless you truly have no idea what you want to be majoring in. Of course the Ivy League schools, MIT, Stanford, etc. will tend to have the stronger programs, but the main thing that's important is viewing the schools at a less general level and sticking to comparing schools by the program that you're actually interested in.
This became apparent to me when trying to find schools that had strong programs in Actuarial Science. Almost none of the "good universities" even had a program at all. It's pretty much unfair to state that a school sucks (unless you happen to know the strength of every one of the programs offered there) or that the Ivy Leagues are the only good universities in the country.
I am well aware that my school isn't regarded very highly and I'm sick of needing to explain why I'm here while my two best friends attend Harvard and Columbia. It's all about the program.
I feel like you've told me before about the actuary stuff but I forgot. Hi!
I agree that it's all about the program for grad school, but not for undergrad. For undergrad, the differences between the programs aren't very big and/or aren't very well known. Plus, you take the majority of your classes outside your major anyway, so the most important thing is the quality of the school in general.
Brown is a really great school to its students. They have a 3.65 median GPA, and it's literally impossible to get a D or F. The grading system is A/B/C/no record. Students have an enormous amount of choice in curriculum. Which may be good to make fun of, but at the end of the day is a really good deal for its students.
My school admitted something like 7 kids to Cornell. All respect I had for Cornell disappeared. Some of them are there strictly because of past relatives who went there, which is a problem in and of itself.
You go to Brown, Walrus? I have a friend who just started going there as well. Do you know any Keiths?
From: Peace___Frog | #039 I feel like you've told me before about the actuary stuff but I forgot. Hi!
Hello! Yes, I remember talking to you about it when I first started applying to colleges and stuff.
tyder21 posted... My school admitted something like 7 kids to Cornell. All respect I had for Cornell disappeared. Some of them are there strictly because of past relatives who went there, which is a problem in and of itself.
You go to Brown, Walrus? I have a friend who just started going there as well. Do you know any Keiths?
yeah. i'll be a math major (possibly CS thrown in) which seems to be up your alley - are you taking the putnam this year?
well one keith showed up when I checked the Brown 2015 facebook group. did he go to "commack high school"?
and only two kids were admitted to cornell this year from my high school. one goes to harvard and was our valedictorian, the other is me.