Board 8 > transience presents: The 50 Most Essential 2d Video Games (with writeups)

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transience
09/12/11 12:43:00 PM
#101:


34. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: The Arcade Game

Platform: Arcade
Release Date: 1989
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This could have been a dozen different games. Double Dragon, Golden Axe, Final Fight, Streets of Rage, Turtles in Time, The Simpsons, X-Men, River City Ransom, you name it. No genre is as same-y as beat-em-ups. They're all going to play pretty much the same and they're all infinitely more fun when played with friends.

TMNT: The Arcade Game is probably the best multiplayer beat-em-up of its era. It was mega fun in the arcades and it's super duper nostalgic. I can quote the voice samples despite not playing for however long. (help meeeeeeeeeee) (do not resist us) Hitting enemies has an excellent feel to it. I used to love dropping a few bucks into TMNT and just playing along with whoever would walk up and join me. This entry is obviously nostalgia heavy, but at the same time it's held up better than most beat-em-ups. Certainly better than Golden Axe. Good god.

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Theon_Greyjoy
09/12/11 12:50:00 PM
#102:


Manhattan Project so much better.

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neonreaper
09/12/11 12:52:00 PM
#103:


Hard to really place FFVI. I love the game to pieces but when I think about the 2D era I think of FFIV.

Golden Axe was solid! AXE BATTLER

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transience
09/12/11 12:58:00 PM
#104:


dwarf was so overpowered. dat axe

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transience
09/12/11 1:06:00 PM
#105:


50. Contra 4
49. Uniracers
48. Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow
47. Ninja Gaiden
46. Outland
45. Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest
44. World of Goo
43. Mortal Kombat 2
42. Tecmo Bowl
41. Lode Runner: The Legend Returns
40. Crystalis
39. Warioware, Inc.
38. N+
37. Mega Man 9
36. Final Fantasy VI
35. NBA Jam
34. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: The Arcade Game

I'm curious to hear what games you guys think are top 10 worthy.

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TheKoolAidShoto
09/12/11 1:08:00 PM
#106:


Metroid 2

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neonreaper
09/12/11 1:12:00 PM
#107:


SMB3
SOTN
SM
MM2
Ultima IV
Sonic 2
SMB1
Zelda 1
Shining Force
FFIV

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Theon_Greyjoy
09/12/11 1:15:00 PM
#108:


I'm curious to hear what games you guys think are top 10 worthy.

DKC2
Yoshi's Island
Mega Man 2/9
Mega Man X
Braid
Oracle of Ages
Pokemon G/S/C

Those are games that immediately come to mind.

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transience
09/12/11 1:16:00 PM
#109:


Ultima 4, heh

I had that game when I was really young - I don't remember a damn thing about it

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neonreaper
09/12/11 1:44:00 PM
#110:


Not even the avatar system?

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transience
09/12/11 1:44:00 PM
#111:


I was like 5

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neonreaper
09/12/11 1:48:00 PM
#112:


I think Ultima III Exodus is the more important game, but Avatar is the more polished and certainly does a good job with consequences and altered gameplay based on player input/actions. This was ~1985, too. Exodus might be why people bothered to make Dragon Quest/FF but Avatar is a bit more enjoyable and it's a series that was already doing new and cool things... before other series were even twinkles in their dev's eyes.

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RayDyn
09/12/11 1:51:00 PM
#113:


Lunar EBC
Dragon Warrior/Quest (favorite game)
Braid
Super Metroid
SMWorld
Oddworld
I'm gonna go with Life Force, just because I have fond memories of that game from my youth, but really any scrolling space shooter would work
LttP
FFIV (my favorite FF)
Baldur's Gate (Not sure if it really counts though.)

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transience
09/12/11 1:52:00 PM
#114:


I did play the NES Ultima Exodus. I don't think that counts!

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Theon_Greyjoy
09/12/11 1:54:00 PM
#115:


I'd also throw Metroid Fusion into mine. Controversial choice I know but it's "literally" my favorite Metroid game.

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neonreaper
09/12/11 1:55:00 PM
#116:


I forget the differences, I think the NES version is a bit more playable but you probably lose... something. yeah!

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whatisurnameplz
09/12/11 2:09:00 PM
#117:


This is probably going to be a bunch of stuff only old men would play.

If someone new to games played these games they would probably get bored after the 10th one.

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neonreaper
09/12/11 2:11:00 PM
#118:


whatisurnameplz posted...
This is probably going to be a bunch of stuff only old men would play.

If someone new to games played these games they would probably get bored after the 10th one.


no

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RayDyn
09/12/11 2:12:00 PM
#119:


From: whatisurnameplz | Posted: 9/12/2011 5:09:54 PM | #117
This is probably going to be a bunch of stuff only old men would play.


Get off my lawn!

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whatisurnameplz
09/12/11 2:12:00 PM
#120:


From: neonreaper | #118
no


You're old too so you don't count.

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Shoenin_Kakashi
09/12/11 2:14:00 PM
#121:


Honestly the NES version of The Arcade Game felt better, even if it did lack the zaniness and 4 player.

SNES Turtles in Time is a god tier game though.**** Re-shelled and **** Ubisoft.

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transience
09/12/11 2:17:00 PM
#122:


TMNT wasn't even about the actual quality of the game, it was about the arcade experience

NES version was a pretty good port but it ain't the same

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Theon_Greyjoy
09/12/11 2:19:00 PM
#123:


My favorite arcade game was the Captain America and Avengers one. That or the Simpsons.

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Shoenin_Kakashi
09/12/11 2:19:00 PM
#124:


I can't remember a video game introduction having that much power before FF6.

The White man beating up the Black Man in SF2
Much laughter was had, a good time was had by almost all.

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transience
09/12/11 2:23:00 PM
#126:


they have that at a children's museum near my old house. I play it with my six year old nephew sometimes!

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Dr_Football
09/12/11 2:24:00 PM
#128:


Simpsons arcade game the best

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Shoenin_Kakashi
09/12/11 2:25:00 PM
#129:


Simpsons arcade awesomeness

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Red Shifter
09/12/11 2:26:00 PM
#130:


FF6 literally 10 times the game that FF5 is

only 5 times the game FF4 is though



shine literally proving why i can't take him seriously anymore

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Liquid Wind
09/12/11 2:27:00 PM
#131:


SHINE that's nonsense, FFVI literally can't be 10 times the game FFV is

you can't multiply zero.
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Shoenin_Kakashi
09/12/11 2:28:00 PM
#132:


Look I like 6 and 5, and 4 the most

Youre all freaks. I like em all.

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GuessMyUserName
09/12/11 2:30:00 PM
#133:


From: Red Shifter | Posted: 9/12/2011 5:26:41 PM | #130
FF6 literally 10 times the game that FF5 is

only 5 times the game FF4 is though



shine literally proving why i can't take him seriously anymore


yeah SHINE

you switched FF5 and FF4

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SHINE GET 64
09/12/11 2:40:00 PM
#134:


I'd say Ninja Gaiden II is top 10 worthy

but you said 1 and 2 are the same for you even though there's a world of difference between them

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transience
09/12/11 3:10:00 PM
#135:


do you guys really think NG2 is that much better than NG1? clones and wall climbing are good and all, but they're fundamentally the same exact game. I like NG2 a little bit more too but NG1 had much more of an impact, I think, due to coming first.

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The Real Truth
09/12/11 3:29:00 PM
#136:


I used to destroy my dad in NBA Jam all the time.

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transience
09/12/11 3:37:00 PM
#137:


33. Bionic Commando Rearmed

Platform: XBLA/PSN
Release Date: 2008
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Bionic Commando is a platforming game where you don't jump. Crazy! This deliberate design decision works thanks to a really interesting grappling hook mechanic. Shooting enemies was secondary to swinging everywhere with the hook. The hook feels really good and is a ton of fun to manipulate.

Rearmed is a remake of the original BC that makes everything better. Gameplay is better thanks to tons of tweaks and additions. New weapons and abilities are appreciated. Bosses are much improved. Music is awesome thanks to some great audio work by Simon Viklund. Challenge Rooms were added with leaderboards. They even added a deathmatch mode that has to be the best 2d shooter deathmatch I've ever played. Granted, I've never played any other 2d shooter deathmatch before, but it was an awesome mode. It's too bad it isn't online multi because other people would get into it.

I always thought BC was notable as one of the first games to go all-in on a unique mechanic. Mega Man, Metroid, Kid Icarus, Ninja Gaiden -- all of these games have the same jump and shoot concept. BC threw it all away and let enemies shoot at you without you being able to jump out of the way. The fact that they executed on the concept so brilliantly is a testament to good game design.

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OmarsComin
09/12/11 3:37:00 PM
#138:


NBA Jam was popular but I'm not sure it's important at all. It strikes me the same way as Sega CD games do - reasonably okay at the time but looking back we can see it went in the wrong direction and no games really copied it. I've had a few friends play it over the last couple years and they all didn't like it. I don't think I'd recommend it to anyone for any reason except nostalgia.
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transience
09/12/11 3:40:00 PM
#139:


NFL Blitz is pretty much NBA Jam with a football and people liked that. I agree that it's kind of an obsolete model but I still think it's a very notable game.

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OmarsComin
09/12/11 3:45:00 PM
#140:


oh yeah, forgot about NFL Blitz. I suppose for a while there that was a thing. maybe influenced NBA Street as well.
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Shoenin_Kakashi
09/12/11 3:46:00 PM
#141:


NFL Blitz died off because Midway decided to make it a Madden clone instead of sticking with the Zaniness that is NFL Blitz

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wallmasterz
09/12/11 3:50:00 PM
#142:


Cool topic

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ZFS
09/12/11 4:01:00 PM
#143:


Rearmed is great. One of the real standouts of the past few years.

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transience
09/12/11 4:09:00 PM
#144:


32. Metroid: Zero Mission

Platform: GBA
Release Date: 2004
Video: (sorry, I couldn't resist)

Super Metroid is the better, more notable game, but damn if this game doesn't have it beat from a pure control perspective. Zero Mission controls so well that it's flat-out easy. Wall jumping, bomb jumping, advanced techniques -- all can be done pretty effortlessly, and it all feels really good to do.

It also has some pretty intelligent design. There's a ton of built in alternate paths that make replaying this game a real treat. Maybe it's not as thrilling as Super Metroid sequence breaking but it's still good. There's a stealth segment that is very unusual for a 2d action game and is pretty darn cool. You can turn this game inside out thanks to all the alternate ways you can go - beat it with 100% or beat it with 9%.

Zero Mission may not break any ground but damn if it isn't the pinnacle of 2d action game control and mechanics. I actually want to put this a good bit higher but am trying to fight my natural bias towards this game. This game is now 7 years old and they have yet to make another 2d Metroid. That's shameful.

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OmarsComin
09/12/11 4:14:00 PM
#145:


I think there's a hack out there that gives Super Metroid the Zero Mission controls. I may be remembering that wrong though.
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SHINE GET 64
09/12/11 4:15:00 PM
#146:


It's all about the cutscenes and story.

NG1's was kind of tame while NG2's defined what stories in games would later become.

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ZFS
09/12/11 4:16:00 PM
#147:


Zero Mission controls in Super Metroid no thanks. I find it really hard to adjust to ZM after having played so much SM.

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transience
09/12/11 4:18:00 PM
#148:


yep. those two games are totally different from a physics standpoint. keep them separate.

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OmarsComin
09/12/11 4:22:00 PM
#149:


ah this was what I was thinking about

http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/405/

controls similar to the GBA games I guess. I haven't tried it, just remember reading it while I was looking for redesigns.
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Ness26
09/12/11 5:12:00 PM
#150:


Lode Runner is awesome -- great inclusion. Two player in that game is hilarious.

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