Board 8 > transience presents: The 50 Most Essential 2d Video Games (with writeups)

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LeonhartFour 09/13/11 4:35:00 PM #251:	Street Fighter Alpha is my personal favorite SF series, but it seems like a small number of people on this board ever really got into it! -- Support Morrigan Aensland (Darkstalkers) for Character Battle IX! http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/9302/banner5morrigan2.jpg <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:322677] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> Street Fighter Alpha is my personal favorite SF series, but it seems like a small number of people on this board ever really got into it! -- Support Morrigan Aensland (Darkstalkers) for Character Battle IX!http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/9302/banner5morrigan2.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OmarsComin 09/13/11 4:35:00 PM #252:	I like Alpha 2. I'm not fond of Alpha 3. <cite>OmarsComin posted [p:322678] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> I like Alpha 2. I'm not fond of Alpha 3. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
transience 09/13/11 4:35:00 PM #253:	SF4 is clearly on a 2d plane. it'd be crazy to call it 3d. -- xyzzy <cite>transience posted [p:322679] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> SF4 is clearly on a 2d plane. it'd be crazy to call it 3d. -- xyzzy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
transience 09/13/11 4:36:00 PM #254:	21. Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved 2 Platform: XBLA Release Date: 2008 Video: The original Geometry Wars is notable for being the first legitimate downloadable game on the 360. Its sequel beats the hell out of the original in every way, offering six unique modes with great leaderboard support. It's the premiere dual stick shooter, a genre that has really exploded over the past few years. It's flashy and exciting with cool music and great intensity. I can't recommend it enough. This isn't a hallowed title on the level of a Mario or a Zelda, but I'd say it's just as important given how big both dual stick shooters and downloadable games are getting. -- xyzzy <cite>transience posted [p:322680] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> 21. Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved 2Platform: XBLARelease Date: 2008Video: The original Geometry Wars is notable for being the first legitimate downloadable game on the 360. Its sequel beats the hell out of the original in every way, offering six unique modes with great leaderboard support. It's the premiere dual stick shooter, a genre that has really exploded over the past few years. It's flashy and exciting with cool music and great intensity. I can't recommend it enough.This isn't a hallowed title on the level of a Mario or a Zelda, but I'd say it's just as important given how big both dual stick shooters and downloadable games are getting. -- xyzzy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OmarsComin 09/13/11 4:38:00 PM #255:	yeah I agree it's a 2D game. but I'd probably call FFTactics 2D also. it's kind of gray and probably doesn't matter that much. <cite>OmarsComin posted [p:322681] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> yeah I agree it's a 2D game. but I'd probably call FFTactics 2D also. it's kind of gray and probably doesn't matter that much. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 09/13/11 4:38:00 PM #256:	Alpha 2 is my favorite of the series. I think they changed too much with Alpha 3 and tried to do too much with it. -- http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab48/Leonhart4/Squall.jpg <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:322682] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> Alpha 2 is my favorite of the series. I think they changed too much with Alpha 3 and tried to do too much with it. -- http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab48/Leonhart4/Squall.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RayDyn 09/13/11 4:39:00 PM #257:	Well, there goes my favorite game. It is weird though, Dragon Warrior is my favorite game and yet I can give it an almost completely objective score, subtracting points for it faults. Someone asked me when it came up for rating in the Rate the Game topics how I could give my favorite game a 6. TBH, I'm not sure how I can be so objective with it, I just am, but it stays as my favorite game of all time, and I don't think it will ever be taken down. -- Meat is murder. Tasty, tasty murder. http://img.imgcake.com/drakeryn/raydynjpgam.jpg <cite>RayDyn posted [p:322683] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> Well, there goes my favorite game. It is weird though, Dragon Warrior is my favorite game and yet I can give it an almost completely objective score, subtracting points for it faults. Someone asked me when it came up for rating in the Rate the Game topics how I could give my favorite game a 6. TBH, I'm not sure how I can be so objective with it, I just am, but it stays as my favorite game of all time, and I don't think it will ever be taken down. -- Meat is murder. Tasty, tasty murder.http://img.imgcake.com/drakeryn/raydynjpgam.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
transience 09/13/11 4:41:00 PM #258:	2d is such a muddy term anyway. include SRPGs and you've gotta include Diablo 2, which in my mind is 3d. then there's Warcraft. at that point I don't even know what 2d means. sorry, neon. I'd have a hard time calling FF7 3d -- or any FF on the PS1, really -- but most people would differentiate between SNES FF and PS1 FF. -- xyzzy <cite>transience posted [p:322684] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> 2d is such a muddy term anyway. include SRPGs and you've gotta include Diablo 2, which in my mind is 3d. then there's Warcraft. at that point I don't even know what 2d means. sorry, neon.I'd have a hard time calling FF7 3d -- or any FF on the PS1, really -- but most people would differentiate between SNES FF and PS1 FF. -- xyzzy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingButz 09/13/11 4:43:00 PM #259:	So SMK and SF4 are both 2D? Seems like you are being awfully lose with the definition. -- My Japanese alter-ego. Hey all this is Bartz btw. <cite>KingButz posted [p:322685] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> So SMK and SF4 are both 2D? Seems like you are being awfully lose with the definition. -- My Japanese alter-ego.Hey all this is Bartz btw. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 09/13/11 4:46:00 PM #260:	SFIV is definitely a 2-D fighter. It has all the characteristics of one. There's a clear distinction between a 2-D fighter and a 3-D fighter, much moreso than most other genres. -- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:322686] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> SFIV is definitely a 2-D fighter. It has all the characteristics of one. There's a clear distinction between a 2-D fighter and a 3-D fighter, much moreso than most other genres. -- "So cold. I am always by your side.""There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
transience 09/13/11 4:46:00 PM #261:	Honourable Mention: Sega This list has a big gaping hole: Sega games. I feel like I'm missing something but I'm not even sure yet; its beat em ups are good but not legendary; Gunstar Heroes never really made a huge splash; I don't know enough about Shining Force to count it and Phantasy Star never seemed to resonate on the same level of Square's RPGs. I had a SMS and a Genesis so it's not like I'm clueless on its games, but nothing really seemed like an all-time game outside of Sonic. So, board 8, what am I missing? -- xyzzy <cite>transience posted [p:322687] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> Honourable Mention: SegaThis list has a big gaping hole: Sega games. I feel like I'm missing something but I'm not even sure yet; its beat em ups are good but not legendary; Gunstar Heroes never really made a huge splash; I don't know enough about Shining Force to count it and Phantasy Star never seemed to resonate on the same level of Square's RPGs. I had a SMS and a Genesis so it's not like I'm clueless on its games, but nothing really seemed like an all-time game outside of Sonic.So, board 8, what am I missing? -- xyzzy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 09/13/11 4:48:00 PM #262:	Sonic games, Vectorman, Ecco the Dolphin. S3&K is part of the holy triumvirate of all-time 2-D platformers, as far as I'm concerned. -- http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2369/mythbattlers.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Sensui22/1248835958206.png <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:322688] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> Sonic games, Vectorman, Ecco the Dolphin.S3&K is part of the holy triumvirate of all-time 2-D platformers, as far as I'm concerned. -- http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2369/mythbattlers.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Sensui22/1248835958206.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chrono1219 09/13/11 4:48:00 PM #263:	From: transience \| #1258 2d is such a muddy term anyway. include SRPGs and you've gotta include Diablo 2, which in my mind is 3d. then there's Warcraft. at that point I don't even know what 2d means. sorry, neon. I'd have a hard time calling FF7 3d -- or any FF on the PS1, really -- but most people would differentiate between SNES FF and PS1 FF. I would consider something that uses little toons like Warcraft 3, Balder's Gate, or Icewindale to be more 2D. For things in the genre, it would not be until things like Kotor, Neverwinter Nights, etc where I would say it's 3D -- Chrono1219 <cite>Chrono1219 posted [p:322689] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> From: transience \| #12582d is such a muddy term anyway. include SRPGs and you've gotta include Diablo 2, which in my mind is 3d. then there's Warcraft. at that point I don't even know what 2d means. sorry, neon.I'd have a hard time calling FF7 3d -- or any FF on the PS1, really -- but most people would differentiate between SNES FF and PS1 FF.I would consider something that uses little toons like Warcraft 3, Balder's Gate, or Icewindale to be more 2D. For things in the genre, it would not be until things like Kotor, Neverwinter Nights, etc where I would say it's 3D -- Chrono1219 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OmarsComin 09/13/11 4:51:00 PM #264:	Sonic 1-3+K are a big deal. I know from past topics you aren't a Sonic fan but they are some of the most important games from the 16 bit era. Shining Force, Earthworm Jim, and Shinobi III come to mind immediately. Streets of Rage 2 is often considered the best beat em up, or at least second best behind TMNT 4. I don't know how successful Ristar was but it was certainly quite good also. <cite>OmarsComin posted [p:322690] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> Sonic 1-3+K are a big deal. I know from past topics you aren't a Sonic fan but they are some of the most important games from the 16 bit era.Shining Force, Earthworm Jim, and Shinobi III come to mind immediately. Streets of Rage 2 is often considered the best beat em up, or at least second best behind TMNT 4. I don't know how successful Ristar was but it was certainly quite good also. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WazzupGenius00 09/13/11 4:52:00 PM #265:	Ristar, EJ, and Shinobi are decent games but they are hardly "Essential" I think -- http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/8840/crashsig.jpg Dr_Football's bracket was made with 23 flavors. <cite>WazzupGenius00 posted [p:322691] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> Ristar, EJ, and Shinobi are decent games but they are hardly "Essential" I think -- http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/8840/crashsig.jpgDr_Football's bracket was made with 23 flavors. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
transience 09/13/11 4:52:00 PM #266:	Sonic's on here, don't worry. it's just a matter of picking a game. SOR2's the only one that's stood out otherwise. I feel weird including so many SNES games and so few Genesis games, but then I think the SNES was a much more accomplished system. -- xyzzy <cite>transience posted [p:322692] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> Sonic's on here, don't worry. it's just a matter of picking a game.SOR2's the only one that's stood out otherwise. I feel weird including so many SNES games and so few Genesis games, but then I think the SNES was a much more accomplished system. -- xyzzy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 09/13/11 4:54:00 PM #267:	As someone who owned an SNES and a Genesis, the SNES was the better system and the one I played much more. I don't know why I always forget about Streets of Rage when thinking of Genesis games. -- http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/8/22/2094c2de-bae8-4f5b-9f27-67eaff0aaeaf.jpg <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:322693] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> As someone who owned an SNES and a Genesis, the SNES was the better system and the one I played much more.I don't know why I always forget about Streets of Rage when thinking of Genesis games. -- http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/8/22/2094c2de-bae8-4f5b-9f27-67eaff0aaeaf.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OmarsComin 09/13/11 4:59:00 PM #268:	My family pawned my SNES when I was eight, so most of my game experience growing up was at my friend's house on his Sega Genesis. I'm sure that puts me in a nostalgia bias situation but when I put the Genesis and SNES libraries next to each other I think the Genesis does quite well. They're very close in my mind. One thing also worth mentioning is that the Genesis was considered the better system for sports games. Of course those things don't matter now, all kind of outdated and definitely not essential. NHL Hockey for the Genesis strikes me as notable as far as 16 bit sports games go, though. <cite>OmarsComin posted [p:322694] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> My family pawned my SNES when I was eight, so most of my game experience growing up was at my friend's house on his Sega Genesis. I'm sure that puts me in a nostalgia bias situation but when I put the Genesis and SNES libraries next to each other I think the Genesis does quite well. They're very close in my mind.One thing also worth mentioning is that the Genesis was considered the better system for sports games. Of course those things don't matter now, all kind of outdated and definitely not essential. NHL Hockey for the Genesis strikes me as notable as far as 16 bit sports games go, though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 09/13/11 5:00:00 PM #269:	NHL '94 great game -- http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7760/222bj.jpg <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:322695] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> NHL '94 great game -- http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7760/222bj.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GranzonEx 09/13/11 5:11:00 PM #270:	From: OmarsComin \| #249 It seems crazy to me that Third Strike isn't the most popular game in the series. Not really crazy when you think about it. When SF2 changed the fighting game genre, it was most famous for zoning. You know TIGERTIGERTIGERTIGER? 3S reduced that to only footsies. It was no longer SF. Why was SF4 so popular? Surprise surprise! Zoning was back! <cite>GranzonEx posted [p:322696] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> From: OmarsComin \| #249It seems crazy to me that Third Strike isn't the most popular game in the series.Not really crazy when you think about it. When SF2 changed the fighting game genre, it was most famous for zoning. You know TIGERTIGERTIGERTIGER? 3S reduced that to only footsies. It was no longer SF. Why was SF4 so popular? Surprise surprise! Zoning was back! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
firefdr 09/13/11 5:11:00 PM #271:	tag <cite>firefdr posted [p:322697] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> tag </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 09/13/11 5:12:00 PM #272:	Third Strike isn't the most popular game in the series for two simple reasons: It was released at the end of the arcade craze (I only got to play New Generations in arcades because my local arcade closed down before Second Impact ever came out), and for several years, SF3 was a Dreamcast exclusive. SF3 never had a chance. Well, there are more reasons than that, but those are the two biggest. -- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!" "Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:322698] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> Third Strike isn't the most popular game in the series for two simple reasons: It was released at the end of the arcade craze (I only got to play New Generations in arcades because my local arcade closed down before Second Impact ever came out), and for several years, SF3 was a Dreamcast exclusive.SF3 never had a chance.Well, there are more reasons than that, but those are the two biggest. -- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!""Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OmarsComin 09/13/11 5:15:00 PM #273:	Not really crazy when you think about it. When SF2 changed the fighting game genre, it was most famous for zoning. You know TIGERTIGERTIGERTIGER? 3S reduced that to only footsies. It was no longer SF. Why was SF4 so popular? Surprise surprise! Zoning was back! Reduced to? That's not the word choice I would use! <cite>OmarsComin posted [p:322699] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> Not really crazy when you think about it. When SF2 changed the fighting game genre, it was most famous for zoning. You know TIGERTIGERTIGERTIGER? 3S reduced that to only footsies. It was no longer SF. Why was SF4 so popular? Surprise surprise! Zoning was back!Reduced to? That's not the word choice I would use! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
transience 09/13/11 5:17:00 PM #274:	SF3 was pretty drastic. it shouldn't even have the SF name honestly. -- xyzzy <cite>transience posted [p:322700] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> SF3 was pretty drastic. it shouldn't even have the SF name honestly. -- xyzzy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SHINE GET 64 09/13/11 5:18:00 PM #275:	Phantasy Star IV should get a mention if you're looking for Sega games. First time I really noticed the 'anime' art style of Japanese games since everything before that was mostly just small sprites. -- http://i.imgur.com/A63VR.gif http://www.yourgamercards.net/trophy/a/CaptainRockman.png <cite>SHINE GET 64 posted [p:322701] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> Phantasy Star IV should get a mention if you're looking for Sega games. First time I really noticed the 'anime' art style of Japanese games since everything before that was mostly just small sprites. -- http://i.imgur.com/A63VR.gifhttp://www.yourgamercards.net/trophy/a/CaptainRockman.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 09/13/11 5:19:00 PM #276:	Losing a lot of the popular characters hurt SF3, too. They weren't even going to have Ryu and Ken originally either until fan clamoring forced them to put them back in. -- http://i43.tinypic.com/dgwh0.gif http://www.majhost.com/gallery/atukam/OHWD/snownd.gif <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:322702] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> Losing a lot of the popular characters hurt SF3, too.They weren't even going to have Ryu and Ken originally either until fan clamoring forced them to put them back in. -- http://i43.tinypic.com/dgwh0.gifhttp://www.majhost.com/gallery/atukam/OHWD/snownd.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SHINE GET 64 09/13/11 5:20:00 PM #277:	reads through what I missed so far damn who are these fools who don't know Arkanoid Breakout is awesome and Arkanoid has always been the best Breakout game -- http://i.imgur.com/A63VR.gif http://www.yourgamercards.net/trophy/a/CaptainRockman.png <cite>SHINE GET 64 posted [p:322703] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> reads through what I missed so fardamn who are these fools who don't know ArkanoidBreakout is awesome and Arkanoid has always been the best Breakout game -- http://i.imgur.com/A63VR.gifhttp://www.yourgamercards.net/trophy/a/CaptainRockman.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
whatisurnameplz 09/13/11 5:28:00 PM #278:	Why are Final Fantasy and Dragon Warrior on here? Are you trying to scare people away or something? Do you want people to ostracize us as weirdos and nerds who have strange obsessions with gameplay as slow as a slug or as dated as a record player? Can't you just change this to "The Top 50 Games I Want More Young Whippersnappers to Actually Like"? -- Give up some love for the Guru! Ladies and gentleman, the Incredible Black Turtle! <cite>whatisurnameplz posted [p:322704] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> Why are Final Fantasy and Dragon Warrior on here?Are you trying to scare people away or something? Do you want people to ostracize us as weirdos and nerds who have strange obsessions with gameplay as slow as a slug or as dated as a record player?Can't you just change this to "The Top 50 Games I Want More Young Whippersnappers to Actually Like"? -- Give up some love for the Guru!Ladies and gentleman, the Incredible Black Turtle! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
transience 09/13/11 5:32:00 PM #279:	well that seems kinda uncalled for -- xyzzy <cite>transience posted [p:322705] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> well that seems kinda uncalled for -- xyzzy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
transience 09/13/11 5:34:00 PM #280:	20. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night Platform: PS1 Release Date: 1997 Video: Symphony of the Night took Super Metroid's formula and went to town. An exp system, weapons, warp points and one of the craziest secrets ever, the UPSIDE DOWN CASTLE. I bet there are tons of people who beat this game not even knowing that they had only done half of it. Most people point to SOTN as taking the Metroid formula and adding RPG elements, but I think SOTN was notable for more than just that. It took nonlinear exploration and made it creepy and haunting. Super Metroid had an atmosphere to it, but it wasn't flat out creepy like SOTN's was. A killer atmospheric soundtrack and good art design helped it along. RPG elements are nice and all but I don't think people came to this game for the gameplay. If they did, they would have played the superior handheld sequels! Those games can't touch SOTN's atmosphere but do improve on the sometimes-broken gameplay. Seriously, you shouldn't be able to do what those speed runs do. -- xyzzy <cite>transience posted [p:322706] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> 20. Castlevania: Symphony of the NightPlatform: PS1Release Date: 1997Video: Symphony of the Night took Super Metroid's formula and went to town. An exp system, weapons, warp points and one of the craziest secrets ever, the UPSIDE DOWN CASTLE. I bet there are tons of people who beat this game not even knowing that they had only done half of it. Most people point to SOTN as taking the Metroid formula and adding RPG elements, but I think SOTN was notable for more than just that. It took nonlinear exploration and made it creepy and haunting. Super Metroid had an atmosphere to it, but it wasn't flat out creepy like SOTN's was. A killer atmospheric soundtrack and good art design helped it along. RPG elements are nice and all but I don't think people came to this game for the gameplay. If they did, they would have played the superior handheld sequels! Those games can't touch SOTN's atmosphere but do improve on the sometimes-broken gameplay. Seriously, you shouldn't be able to do what those speed runs do. -- xyzzy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GranzonEx 09/13/11 5:37:00 PM #281:	AoS better be higher than SotN. <cite>GranzonEx posted [p:322707] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> AoS better be higher than SotN. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZFS 09/13/11 5:45:00 PM #282:	Dragon Quest greatest -- peace comes from within <cite>ZFS posted [p:322708] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> Dragon Quest greatest -- peace comes from within </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pjbasis 09/13/11 5:47:00 PM #283:	*transience posted...* I bet there are tons of people who beat this game not even knowing that they had only done half of it. In 2010, believe it. I was all like, "ok this game was pretty good, not sure why everyone thinks its the grea- OH MY GOD WHAT!" <cite>pjbasis posted [p:322709] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> transience posted... I bet there are tons of people who beat this game not even knowing that they had only done half of it. In 2010, believe it.I was all like, "ok this game was pretty good, not sure why everyone thinks its the grea- OH MY GOD WHAT!" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Epyo the Great 09/13/11 6:06:00 PM #284:	SotN's the right choice for main castlevania representative. I still think people go overboard on comparing it to super metroid, because really the only idea the games share is that they're both platformers with an automap. Besides that, they're on opposite ends of the spectrum in most aspects i can think of: * The gameplay is extremely different (controls, equipment systems, shooting vs melee, sotn's magic systems, puzzle vs action), * The overall presentation is completely different (story vs exposition, inclusion of characters, type of fantasy involved), * The graphical style is completely different (tile based vs gothic art) * The zone structure is very different (quantity, size, setting, all are opposites), * and come to think about it, the automaps are very different as well. -- People who don't finish their sentences I'm a Castlevania superfan! Ask me anything! <cite>Epyo the Great posted [p:322710] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> SotN's the right choice for main castlevania representative. I still think people go overboard on comparing it to super metroid, because really the only idea the games share is that they're both platformers with an automap. Besides that, they're on opposite ends of the spectrum in most aspects i can think of:* The gameplay is extremely different (controls, equipment systems, shooting vs melee, sotn's magic systems, puzzle vs action), * The overall presentation is completely different (story vs exposition, inclusion of characters, type of fantasy involved), * The graphical style is completely different (tile based vs gothic art) * The zone structure is very different (quantity, size, setting, all are opposites), * and come to think about it, the automaps are very different as well. -- People who don't finish their sentencesI'm a Castlevania superfan! Ask me anything! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GuessMyUserName 09/13/11 6:07:00 PM #285:	From: GranzonEx \| Posted: 9/13/2011 8:37:43 PM \| #281 AoS better be higher than SotN. first correct Granzon post I've seen in some time -- SegMlCassieIsAmazingjhsux~&amp;gt;[64T2jampXDpikaness is awesome!8forgaMike RSmurf is too! <cite>GuessMyUserName posted [p:322711] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> From: GranzonEx \| Posted: 9/13/2011 8:37:43 PM \| #281AoS better be higher than SotN.first correct Granzon post I've seen in some time -- SegMlCassieIsAmazingjhsux~&amp;gt;[64T2jampXDpikaness is awesome!8forgaMike RSmurf is too! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
whatisurnameplz 09/13/11 6:09:00 PM #286:	From: transience \| #261 This list has a big gaping hole: Sega games. I feel like I'm missing something but I'm not even sure yet; its beat em ups are good but not legendary; Gunstar Heroes never really made a huge splash; I don't know enough about Shining Force to count it and Phantasy Star never seemed to resonate on the same level of Square's RPGs. I had a SMS and a Genesis so it's not like I'm clueless on its games, but nothing really seemed like an all-time game outside of Sonic. Oh gee, I don't know... ...A **ing Sonic game? I'm sure most people would rather play that than Dragon Warrior, of all things. -- Give up some love for the Guru! Ladies and gentleman, the Incredible Black Turtle! <cite>whatisurnameplz posted [p:322712] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> From: transience \| #261This list has a big gaping hole: Sega games. I feel like I'm missing something but I'm not even sure yet; its beat em ups are good but not legendary; Gunstar Heroes never really made a huge splash; I don't know enough about Shining Force to count it and Phantasy Star never seemed to resonate on the same level of Square's RPGs. I had a SMS and a Genesis so it's not like I'm clueless on its games, but nothing really seemed like an all-time game outside of Sonic.Oh gee, I don't know......A **ing Sonic game?I'm sure most people would rather play that than Dragon Warrior, of all things. -- Give up some love for the Guru!Ladies and gentleman, the Incredible Black Turtle! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 09/13/11 6:10:00 PM #287:	He already said a Sonic game is on the list! Calm down. -- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:322713] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> He already said a Sonic game is on the list!Calm down. -- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside.""I am lightning...the rain transformed." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 09/13/11 6:14:00 PM #288:	*Epyo the Great posted...* SotN's the right choice for main castlevania representative. I still think people go overboard on comparing it to super metroid, because really the only idea the games share is that they're both platformers with an automap. Besides that, they're on opposite ends of the spectrum in most aspects i can think of: * The gameplay is extremely different (controls, equipment systems, shooting vs melee, sotn's magic systems, puzzle vs action), * The overall presentation is completely different (story vs exposition, inclusion of characters, type of fantasy involved), * The graphical style is completely different (tile based vs gothic art) * The zone structure is very different (quantity, size, setting, all are opposites), * and come to think about it, the automaps are very different as well. This. We might as well be comparing RE4 to Metroid games in that case (seriously, that's how it felt to me when I played RE4 for the first time a few months ago - it felt like a Metroid game where the emphasis on puzzle solving, bright colors, and space tech flair were replaced with all-out action, "photorealism", and a rural setting). -- Currently Playing - StarCraft: Brood War <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:322714] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> Epyo the Great posted...SotN's the right choice for main castlevania representative. I still think people go overboard on comparing it to super metroid, because really the only idea the games share is that they're both platformers with an automap. Besides that, they're on opposite ends of the spectrum in most aspects i can think of:* The gameplay is extremely different (controls, equipment systems, shooting vs melee, sotn's magic systems, puzzle vs action), * The overall presentation is completely different (story vs exposition, inclusion of characters, type of fantasy involved), * The graphical style is completely different (tile based vs gothic art) * The zone structure is very different (quantity, size, setting, all are opposites), * and come to think about it, the automaps are very different as well.This. We might as well be comparing RE4 to Metroid games in that case (seriously, that's how it felt to me when I played RE4 for the first time a few months ago - it felt like a Metroid game where the emphasis on puzzle solving, bright colors, and space tech flair were replaced with all-out action, "photorealism", and a rural setting). -- Currently Playing - StarCraft: Brood War </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
transcience 09/13/11 6:15:00 PM #289:	whoosh I convinced a friend who was playing through SoTN for the first time that he had to beat Richter without getting hit. he spent the next hour trying to do it until he finally pulled it off. he was so pissed. -- add the c and back away iphonesience <cite>transcience posted [p:322715] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> whooshI convinced a friend who was playing through SoTN for the first time that he had to beat Richter without getting hit. he spent the next hour trying to do it until he finally pulled it off. he was so pissed. -- add the c and back awayiphonesience </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Not Dave 09/13/11 6:15:00 PM #290:	LMS and whatisurnameplz posting within two posts of each other i'll come back later -- ND <cite>Not Dave posted [p:322716] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> LMS and whatisurnameplz posting within two posts of each otheri'll come back later -- ND </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SHINE GET 64 09/13/11 6:16:00 PM #291:	I'll take Dragon Quest over Sonic any day of the week! -- http://i.imgur.com/A63VR.gif http://www.yourgamercards.net/trophy/a/CaptainRockman.png <cite>SHINE GET 64 posted [p:322717] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> I'll take Dragon Quest over Sonic any day of the week! -- http://i.imgur.com/A63VR.gifhttp://www.yourgamercards.net/trophy/a/CaptainRockman.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff Zero 09/13/11 6:16:00 PM #292:	From: whatisurnameplz \| #286 Oh gee, I don't know... ...A **ing Sonic game? I'm sure most people would rather play that than Dragon Warrior, of all things. he mad -- "Mr. Paris, I assume you've had a great deal of experience being rejected by women." ~SCP~ http://img.imgcake.com/Jeffzeropngus.png <cite>Jeff Zero posted [p:322718] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> From: whatisurnameplz \| #286Oh gee, I don't know......A **ing Sonic game?I'm sure most people would rather play that than Dragon Warrior, of all things.he mad -- "Mr. Paris, I assume you've had a great deal of experience being rejected by women." ~SCP~http://img.imgcake.com/Jeffzeropngus.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KommunistKoala 09/13/11 6:18:00 PM #293:	SMW > SMB3 SMB > VVVVVV All great games though. Also good list~ -- http://img.imgcake.com/KommunistKoala/koalajpgehsa.jpg http://img.imgcake.com/KKpngat.png <cite>KommunistKoala posted [p:322719] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> SMW > SMB3SMB > VVVVVV All great games though. Also good list~ -- http://img.imgcake.com/KommunistKoala/koalajpgehsa.jpghttp://img.imgcake.com/KKpngat.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
whatisurnameplz 09/13/11 6:19:00 PM #294:	All I'm trying to say is that if Dragon Warrior 1 is the 20th-something 2D game that everyone must play if they are starting out with video games, they'd probably have second thoughts about the entire thing. Let's see if tranny can redeem himself with the next 20 or so. -- Give up some love for the Guru! Ladies and gentleman, the Incredible Black Turtle! <cite>whatisurnameplz posted [p:322720] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> All I'm trying to say is that if Dragon Warrior 1 is the 20th-something 2D game that everyone must play if they are starting out with video games, they'd probably have second thoughts about the entire thing.Let's see if tranny can redeem himself with the next 20 or so. -- Give up some love for the Guru!Ladies and gentleman, the Incredible Black Turtle! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SHINE GET 64 09/13/11 6:20:00 PM #295:	it was one of the first 20 games I ever played and it only established my love for the genre -- http://i.imgur.com/A63VR.gif http://www.yourgamercards.net/trophy/a/CaptainRockman.png <cite>SHINE GET 64 posted [p:322721] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> it was one of the first 20 games I ever played and it only established my love for the genre -- http://i.imgur.com/A63VR.gifhttp://www.yourgamercards.net/trophy/a/CaptainRockman.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
th3l3fty 09/13/11 6:22:00 PM #296:	Dragon Warrior is a far, far better game than anything with the Sonic name attached to it -- thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -tranny I have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris <cite>th3l3fty posted [p:322722] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> Dragon Warrior is a far, far better game than anything with the Sonic name attached to it -- thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -trannyI have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RayDyn 09/13/11 6:23:00 PM #297:	It's only my favorite f*ing game! -- ~=B8's Resident Ninja-Pirate. Please insert liquor=~ http://www.futurama-madhouse.com.ar/fanart/kenneth/bender_auron.jpg <cite>RayDyn posted [p:322723] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> It's only my favorite f*ing game! -- ~=B8's Resident Ninja-Pirate. Please insert liquor=~http://www.futurama-madhouse.com.ar/fanart/kenneth/bender_auron.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
transience 09/13/11 6:23:00 PM #298:	I'll do my best to make a list to your liking! -- xyzzy <cite>transience posted [p:322724] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> I'll do my best to make a list to your liking! -- xyzzy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pjbasis 09/13/11 6:26:00 PM #299:	*LinkMarioSamus posted...* This. We might as well be comparing RE4 to Metroid games in that case (seriously, that's how it felt to me when I played RE4 for the first time a few months ago - it felt like a Metroid game where the emphasis on puzzle solving, bright colors, and space tech flair were replaced with all-out action, "photorealism", and a rural setting). So basically if Metroid is like Resident Evil 4, with all the Metroid taken out in favor of Resident Evil 4? <cite>pjbasis posted [p:322725] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> LinkMarioSamus posted...This. We might as well be comparing RE4 to Metroid games in that case (seriously, that's how it felt to me when I played RE4 for the first time a few months ago - it felt like a Metroid game where the emphasis on puzzle solving, bright colors, and space tech flair were replaced with all-out action, "photorealism", and a rural setting).So basically if Metroid is like Resident Evil 4, with all the Metroid taken out in favor of Resident Evil 4? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZFS 09/13/11 6:30:00 PM #300:	*SHINE GET 64 posted...* I'll take Dragon Quest over Sonic any day of the week! Truth. -- peace comes from within <cite>ZFS posted [p:322726] in transience... [t:60299891]...</cite> <quote> SHINE GET 64 posted...I'll take Dragon Quest over Sonic any day of the week!Truth. -- peace comes from within </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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