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PartOfYourWorld
09/07/11 6:47:00 PM
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"Governor Perry, during your governorship, the state of Texas executed 234 people, the most of any governorship in modern his-"

Audience: Applause

Didn't even finish the question!!

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red sox 777
09/07/11 6:48:00 PM
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....Republicans, are you trying to make me vote for Obama?

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Biolizard28
09/07/11 6:49:00 PM
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I'm hoping this makes rounds on The Daily Show.

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SlymDayspring
09/07/11 6:49:00 PM
#4:


that was so disgusting...

but whaddya expect? the republican party base is a bunch of nutjobs.

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SmartMuffin
09/07/11 6:49:00 PM
#5:


I applauded in my living room, too.

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Ayuyu
09/07/11 6:50:00 PM
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Tagging this to be entertaining 500 posts topic.

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BoshStrikesBack
09/07/11 6:51:00 PM
#7:


Is there any place to watch this online yet?

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SecksThaNemesis
09/07/11 6:51:00 PM
#8:


four more years.

Obama murdered McCain by painting him as Bush 2.0

He'll murder Perry by painting him as Bush 3.0

Or would that be Bush 0.5?

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Shoenin_Kakashi
09/07/11 6:52:00 PM
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Obama didnt kill McCain, Palin did.

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Biolizard28
09/07/11 6:52:00 PM
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I'd normally say Obama is toast given what's gone on these past four years...

but the perception of Republicans as barbaric and incompetent is simply too strong, imho

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SlymDayspring
09/07/11 6:53:00 PM
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I dunno about that...Bush's approval is rising, it isn't far from Obama's at this point. Time heals all wounds, people only remember the good not the bad, etc.

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red sox 777
09/07/11 6:54:00 PM
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I hope blue state Republicans will sink Perry's chances at the nomination though.

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SmartMuffin
09/07/11 6:54:00 PM
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Obama didnt kill McCain, Palin did.

This is a complete lie and it dishonors you to knowingly spread such garbage.

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BoshStrikesBack
09/07/11 6:55:00 PM
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Yeah, in a heads-up Perry/Obama race, Perry'd be the favorite (though by an extremely slim margin). If you don't think his jobs record and fiscal conservatism would appeal to people in this dire an economic situation, then it's time to ask some meat-and-potatoes Americans.

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red sox 777
09/07/11 6:56:00 PM
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Bush and the economy killed McCain's chances. There was no way he was going to win that election short of Obama publicly announcing he was a Communist on the day before the election or something like that.

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OmarsComin
09/07/11 6:57:00 PM
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Obama didnt kill McCain, Palin did.

This is a complete lie and it dishonors you to knowingly spread such garbage.


As I recall, McCain was doing okay but not doing great with the really conservative base. So he was like "gotta get me one of them far right conservatives" and grabbed her. She spent the rest of the campaign torpedoing him by looking dumb, botching interviews, and dabbling in racism. It's fair to say that once Palin was on board McCain had no chance of winning.
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PartOfYourWorld
09/07/11 6:57:00 PM
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Obama isn't dropping the Northeast and West, and Perry won't drop the deep South and his home state. I have a very hard time imaging Obama losing Pennsylvania to someone like Perry, so basically, Perry needs Florida. Perry needs the old people state and just spent ten minutes defending his writing that social security is a Ponzi scheme.

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SmartMuffin
09/07/11 6:59:00 PM
#18:


then it's time to ask some meat-and-potatoes Americans.

Too bad nobody on this board knows anybody like that!

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Iamdead7
09/07/11 7:00:00 PM
#19:


Every time I think that Obama is screwed the Republicans remind us how insane and unelectable they are

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red sox 777
09/07/11 7:00:00 PM
#20:


Obama isn't dropping the Northeast and West, and Perry won't drop the deep South and his home state. I have a very hard time imaging Obama losing Pennsylvania to someone like Perry, so basically, Perry needs Florida. Perry needs the old people state and just spent ten minutes defending his writing that social security is a Ponzi scheme.

Romney will win New Hampshire against Obama though, and would have a shot at Maine, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, Oregon, and Washington. Plus I think Romney would have Nevada, Colorado, and New Mexico more or less wrapped up.

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SmartMuffin
09/07/11 7:00:00 PM
#21:


Social security IS a ponzi scheme. That is not up for debate.

Now, someone can have the opinion of "who cares I still want mine" if they want, but they should just be honest and say so.

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AfroSquirrel
09/07/11 7:01:00 PM
#22:


OmarsComin posted...

As I recall, McCain was doing okay but not doing great with the really conservative base. So he was like "gotta get me one of them far right conservatives" and grabbed her. She spent the rest of the campaign torpedoing him by looking dumb, botching interviews, and dabbling in racism. It's fair to say that once Palin was on board McCain had no chance of winning.


Palin also made McCain's age a factor in the campaign. Mostly due to the idea that 'If McCain does die in office, do we really want to run the risk of President Palin?'

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SmartMuffin
09/07/11 7:01:00 PM
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As I recall, McCain was doing okay but not doing great with the really conservative base. So he was like "gotta get me one of them far right conservatives" and grabbed her. She spent the rest of the campaign torpedoing him by looking dumb, botching interviews, and dabbling in racism. It's fair to say that once Palin was on board McCain had no chance of winning.

You recall wrong.

It was the economy turning into a disaster and Bush, McCain, AND Obama supporting TARP that torpedoed the campaign. This happened shortly, but not immediately, after he selected Palin. She "botched" interviews that were intentionally designed and edited to discredit her, yes. Nobody cared except the people who already hated her anyway.

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OmarsComin
09/07/11 7:02:00 PM
#24:


If you don't think his jobs record and fiscal conservatism would appeal to people in this dire an economic situation, then it's time to ask some meat-and-potatoes Americans.

I think most people are increasingly aware that corporations are pulling record profits at a time when unemployment is quite high. We can thank fiscal conservatives for that and I doubt most people want any more of that than already exists.
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SmartMuffin
09/07/11 7:02:00 PM
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do we really want to run the risk of President Palin?'

Yes. We do. A lot of Republicans voted for him hoping for exactly that.

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Biolizard28
09/07/11 7:02:00 PM
#26:


SmartMuffin posted...
Social security IS a ponzi scheme. That is not up for debate.

Yeah, but you don't say that when the people who rely on social security are the people you're relying on to get the presidency.

This is why you're not allowed to talk politics.

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SmartMuffin
09/07/11 7:02:00 PM
#27:


We can thank fiscal conservatives for that

No we can't, because there aren't any fiscal conservatives in power right now. Nor have there been for the past 15 years or so.

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SlymDayspring
09/07/11 7:02:00 PM
#28:


regardless of what you think about social security, the point was that the old people in florida who rely on it TO LIVE are not gonna be too receptive to someone making attacks on social security.

....but considering our governor is rick scott, never underestimate floridians ability to vote against their interests.

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pjbasis
09/07/11 7:03:00 PM
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Pretty dumb thing to be proud of but whatever
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SmartMuffin
09/07/11 7:03:00 PM
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Yeah, but you don't say that when the people who rely on social security are the people you're relying on to get the presidency.

Silly me. I actually believe in telling the truth. I can see how you all see that as stupid though.

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JJH777
09/07/11 7:04:00 PM
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Assuming they were all guilty of their crimes I don't really see what is wrong with this.

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Theon_Greyjoy
09/07/11 7:04:00 PM
#32:


SmartMuffin posted...
do we really want to run the risk of President Palin?'

Yes. We do. A lot of Republicans voted for him hoping for exactly that.


He lost a lot of votes for exactly that.

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Iamdead7
09/07/11 7:04:00 PM
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She "botched" interviews that were intentionally designed and edited to discredit her


Literally couldn't name newspapers.

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SythaWarrior
09/07/11 7:04:00 PM
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Meh the only states that matter in terms of "swing" states are FL and OH and it kinda sucks.

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Biolizard28
09/07/11 7:04:00 PM
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SmartMuffin posted...
Silly me. I actually believe in telling the truth. I can see how you all see that as stupid though.

And that's why you'll never be a politician.

In order to get what you want, you need to exploit people's interests. Play the game. Politics is like picking up women.

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SmartMuffin
09/07/11 7:05:00 PM
#36:


....but considering our governor is rick scott, never underestimate floridians ability to vote against their interests.

God forbid some seniors oppose having their grandchildren born into debt slavery and forced to pay into a broken system from which they will never see a return.

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OmarsComin
09/07/11 7:05:00 PM
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No we can't, because there aren't any fiscal conservatives in power right now. Nor have there been for the past 15 years or so.

it's true that we haven't had anyone who spends within their budget, so real fiscal conservatives sure.

but I'm talking about Reagan-style "cut taxes on the rich, cut programs for the poor to pay for it" policies which are why we are where we are!
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SmartMuffin
09/07/11 7:05:00 PM
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He lost a lot of votes for exactly that.

No he didn't.

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SmartMuffin
09/07/11 7:06:00 PM
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And that's why you'll never be a politician.

Who says I want to be?

But I'm not so sure you're right in any case. Look at Ron Paul. He continues to stand up there and tell the truth in a pack of liars and panderers. It's working a hell of a lot better now than it did four years ago. I guess that happens when you've been consistently right about everything for the better part of four decades.

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OmarsComin
09/07/11 7:06:00 PM
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couldn't she also not name a court decision she disagreed with? it's all vague in my memory now, but I do seem to recall some pretty basic questions she failed that any candidate would've been asked and no amount of editing could've fixed.
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Biolizard28
09/07/11 7:06:00 PM
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JJH777 posted...
Assuming they were all guilty of their crimes I don't really see what is wrong with this.

Every single one of those prisoners cost the state inane amounts of money to put to death due to appeals, retrials, etc. It's literally cheaper just to let them sit in the corner of their cell and think about what they've done for the rest of their lives.

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SmartMuffin
09/07/11 7:07:00 PM
#42:


Every single one of those prisoners costs inane amounts of money to put to death due to appeals, retrials, etc

I agree. There shouldn't be as many appeals and retrails.

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Biolizard28
09/07/11 7:07:00 PM
#43:


SmartMuffin posted...
I agree. There shouldn't be as many appeals and retrails.

Never seen a more blatant case of missing the f***ing point in my entire life.

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SmartMuffin
09/07/11 7:08:00 PM
#44:


couldn't she also not name a court decision she disagreed with? it's all vague in my memory now, but I do seem to recall some pretty basic questions she failed that any candidate would've been asked and no amount of editing could've fixed.

The editing comes from the fact that they did about five hours worth of interviewing and cherry-picked the worst fifteen minutes of it. They didn't air ANY of her responses on her stronger issues, and only aired the attack questions intentionally designed to look dumb.

Yeah, she helped them by providing 15 minutes worth of dumb material, but it's still dishonest and wrong.

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red sox 777
09/07/11 7:08:00 PM
#45:


Also, Sarah Palin hurt McCain. He would have lost anyway, but she made his loss worse.

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SecksThaNemesis
09/07/11 7:08:00 PM
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From: Biolizard28 | #043
SmartMuffin posted...
I agree. There shouldn't be as many appeals and retrails.

Never seen a more blatant case of missing the f***ing point in my entire life.


I see this is your first SmartMuffin interaction.

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SmartMuffin
09/07/11 7:09:00 PM
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Never seen a more blatant case of missing the f***ing point in my entire life.

No, you're the one who's missing the point. The economic argument against the death penalty is inherently flawed, because the death penalty IN AND OF ITSELF is not economically disadvantageous. The way we choose to go about it is, but that way could be changed. Texas could change the law and say that as soon as someone is sentenced to death, they pull out a pistol and shoot him in the head that very second. Then it would be MUCH cheaper.

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SmartMuffin
09/07/11 7:09:00 PM
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Also, Sarah Palin hurt McCain. He would have lost anyway, but she made his loss worse.

You too, red sox? How does it feel to be a useful you-know-what by spreading the made up lies and propaganda of the socialist machine?

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Theon_Greyjoy
09/07/11 7:10:00 PM
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I'd rather be shot in the head than get lethal injection, personally.

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ESY16
09/07/11 7:10:00 PM
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Breaking News: Board 8 disagrees with Republicans

More at 11.

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