Board 8 > Alright B8, which retro game has aged *worst*?

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BoshStrikesBack
09/04/11 2:09:00 PM
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Should make for a good discussion. For my money, Pong still has addictive charm, as do most early Atari games. I'll cast my vote for Super Mario Land: its controls and compressed sprites make it pretty much unplayable.

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BIGPUN9999
09/04/11 2:10:00 PM
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probably early RPGs

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TheRock1525
09/04/11 2:11:00 PM
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I still don't like the term "aged." It implies that the game has changed since it was released. It hasn't. Your expectations have.

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SHINE GET 64
09/04/11 2:12:00 PM
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N64 shooters like Goldeneye and Perfect Dark

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FateStayAlbion
09/04/11 2:13:00 PM
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Goldeneye is a big one I think of. Also really old rpgs like for NES. FF1-3 have all been remade, so the originals are near impossible to play anymore.

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__Smurf__
09/04/11 2:14:00 PM
#6:


Mario 64

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SHINE GET 64
09/04/11 2:15:00 PM
#7:


eh I think FF1 is still fine

in general though early 3D games have aged worse than early 2D games.

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SuperAngelo128
09/04/11 2:16:00 PM
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Tales of Destiny PS1

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Psycho_Kenshin
09/04/11 2:16:00 PM
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__Smurf__ posted...
Mario 64

Not for me, still easily the best Mario game, and a lot better than Galaxy too.

For me I guess I'll go with F-Zero, also as a fighting game fan Street Fighter II has aged less well than I might've figured.

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Tom Bombadil
09/04/11 2:16:00 PM
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I grew up watching Ultima and thinking it was awesome

tried playing one the other day and it was basically unplayable :\

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SlymDayspring
09/04/11 2:18:00 PM
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old rpg's. unplayable now.

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Jeff Zero
09/04/11 2:19:00 PM
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From: SlymDayspring | #011
old rpg's. unplayable now.


How old are we talking? SNES and up and I'm still playing it.

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Mega Mana
09/04/11 2:20:00 PM
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Definitely agree on Goldeneye.
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DooberPie
09/04/11 2:21:00 PM
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Hellhole.
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BoshStrikesBack
09/04/11 2:26:00 PM
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I still don't like the term "aged." It implies that the game has changed since it was released. It hasn't. Your expectations have.

Obviously, and everyone knows this is what the term means. "Aged" just flows better than "gaming's progressed and certain games look bad in hindsight, but I guess that's my fault!"

And I think Goldeneye's a good choice, yeah.

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foolmor0n
09/04/11 2:28:00 PM
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Any game in the PS1/N64 era. Early 3D aged so badly, there's really no comparison. Early 2D still looks mostly fine, in a charming way at least, but early 3D is just ugly.

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Psycho_Kenshin
09/04/11 2:28:00 PM
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Hmmm, I guess the PS2 Grand Theft Auto games a bit. Those games were completely mindblowing, some of my favorites ever (GTA3 and Vice City in particular), but I can't really get into replaying them these days. Especially the shooting mechanics and such.

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GranzonEx
09/04/11 2:28:00 PM
#18:


Final Fantasy 7
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Biolizard28
09/04/11 2:29:00 PM
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Earthbound.

Archaic when it was released, a veritable fossil today.

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GranzonEx
09/04/11 2:29:00 PM
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From: UltimaterializerX | #020
Metal Gear Solid


That's another one. Not so much the graphics but the controls.
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metroid13
09/04/11 2:31:00 PM
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Going with Goldeneye.

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ImTheMacheteGuy
09/04/11 2:32:00 PM
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Final Fantasy VII, though it was only ever "pretty good"

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__Smurf__
09/04/11 2:32:00 PM
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FF7 has aged very well. Goldeneye and MGS are good calls.

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Paratroopa1
09/04/11 2:33:00 PM
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I don't agree with Super Mario Land. The game was bad to begin with, and I played it when it was new. It was clearly a cheap imitation of the good Mario games even when I was like six years old. So there was nothing there to age.
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FateStayAlbion
09/04/11 2:34:00 PM
#26:


__Smurf__ posted...
FF7 has aged very well. Goldeneye and MGS are good calls.

I think FF7s graphics have aged better than most PS1 games, since it was just simple and not trying to be all detailed like quite a few PS1 games ended up being. Like FF8 is a jaggy filled mess that might of been better graphics at the time, but now I prefer the simple look of FF7.

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OmarsComin
09/04/11 2:36:00 PM
#27:


Resident Evil 1-3
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WazzupGenius00
09/04/11 2:47:00 PM
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Metroid

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Takfloyd_mkII__
09/04/11 2:49:00 PM
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Yeah, FF7 will always look decent because of the lego aesthetic and the still-amazing backgrounds and music.

And personally I think MGS is still great too, because good voice acting doesn't age, and I prefer the simple controls to the convoluted mess in modern MGS games.

Mario 64 is still tops as well, as are the other top-tier N64 adventures, like Banjo-Kazooie and Zeldas.

90% of early 3D games do suck now though. And with some exceptions, 8-bit era games look and sound pretty bad.


In the end, I hope we can all agree on which generation aged best though: 16-bit. SNES and Genesis games will still look and play great in 200 years.

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BoshStrikesBack
09/04/11 2:50:00 PM
#30:


Earthbound.

Archaic when it was released, a veritable fossil today.


I'd consider this a shining endorsement.

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GuessMyUserName
09/04/11 2:50:00 PM
#31:


I can agree with Metroid 1

that's what makes Zero Mission so amazing, it turned a game that's seriously unplayable these days, and made it a Top 15 games of all time

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KingBartz
09/04/11 2:51:00 PM
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Metroid is unplayable. I don't understand how anyone can enjoy that game in this day and age.

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GranzonEx
09/04/11 2:52:00 PM
#33:


From: Takfloyd_mkII__ | #029
And personally I think MGS is still great too, because good voice acting doesn't age, and I prefer the simple controls to the convoluted mess in modern MGS games.


Simple controls? You mean archaic controls, right? Even MGS2 is leaps ahead of MGS1 in terms of controls.
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Shoenin_Kakashi
09/04/11 3:24:00 PM
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man, you guys stink at Goldeneye <_<

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Paratroopa1
09/04/11 3:26:00 PM
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I still like the original Metroid though I understand that it feels extremely archaic nowadays.
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The_Ps2_Devil
09/04/11 3:36:00 PM
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Most PS1 and N64 games haven't aged too well mostly due to the fact that a lot of them were running at around 15-20 frames per second. We may not have noticed that in the past but it feels nigh on unplayable now due to how unresponsive and laggy everything feels. Goldeneye has already been pointed out but basically anything that would require fast reflexes and precise controls just don't play too well today. Thankfully there are emulators to allow one to bypass those frame rate problems :)

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Shoenin_Kakashi
09/04/11 3:38:00 PM
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I noticed GE lag

considering at the same time I was playing Quake and RoTT <_<

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_Yonex_
09/04/11 3:40:00 PM
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Swords of Vermillion

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paperwarior
09/04/11 3:40:00 PM
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Pitfall is pretty bad if you've played any more advanced platformer. Even Donkey Kong.

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Biolizard28
09/04/11 3:58:00 PM
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BoshStrikesBack posted...
I'd consider this a shining endorsement.

I consider you a dingy a******

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Emporer_Kazbar
09/04/11 3:59:00 PM
#41:


Pokemon Red/Blue

I played the s*** out of those games as a kid, but now I simply can't touch'em. I'd much rather play a Pokemon game from any other generation.

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FateStayAlbion
09/04/11 4:03:00 PM
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Another game popped into my head... Tekken 3. That was like the best 3D fighter of its time on PS1, but I tried it a few weeks ago and it just feels so dated now, and the fighting has like no depth compared to fighters these days

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MarvelousGerbil
09/04/11 4:22:00 PM
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Sonic the Hedgehog
Super Smash Bros.
X-men: The Arcade Game (might just be that the coin-op to console transition made it underwhelming)
Goldeneye
Perfect Dark
Metal Gear Solid
Pokemon R/B/Y

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WazzupGenius00
09/04/11 4:23:00 PM
#44:


From: MarvelousGerbil | #043
X-men: The Arcade Game (might just be that the coin-op to console transition made it underwhelming)


no, it's a legitimately boring and repetitive game compared to the likes of Final Fight, Streets of Rage, etc

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MarvelousGerbil
09/04/11 4:28:00 PM
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I'm just thinking it may have been more fun in the arcade because you actually had motivation to try in it. When I'm playing it on Xbox, it's almost like it punishes you for staying alive because there's no punishment for using continues and you refill your mutant powers.

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OmarsComin
09/04/11 8:02:00 PM
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I'm just thinking it may have been more fun in the arcade because you actually had motivation to try in it. When I'm playing it on Xbox, it's almost like it punishes you for staying alive because there's no punishment for using continues and you refill your mutant powers.

well most arcade games are boring if you give yourself unlimited continues. it's better to set a finite (and small) amount of continues allowed before you start the game and then stick to it. the next time you play, stick to that same limit and see if you get further. that's how arcade games are meant to be played.
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BoshStrikesBack
09/04/11 8:04:00 PM
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I consider you a dingy a******

Very complementary today, aren't we!

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LeonhartFour
09/04/11 8:05:00 PM
#48:


FFVII still good today

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WazzupGenius00
09/04/11 8:09:00 PM
#49:


From: MarvelousGerbil | #045
I'm just thinking it may have been more fun in the arcade because you actually had motivation to try in it. When I'm playing it on Xbox, it's almost like it punishes you for staying alive because there's no punishment for using continues and you refill your mutant powers.


Well, it would be more fun in an arcade when you're playing with 2-5 other people in person. But I'd rather take 3 of those people and play Ninja Turtles or Shadow over Mystara or something.

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09/04/11 8:11:00 PM
#50:


GranzonEx posted...
Simple controls? You mean archaic controls, right? Even MGS2 is leaps ahead of MGS1 in terms of controls.

Maybe first-person controls, but MGS has a nice simplicity to the control scheme that the other games don't have. If you know how to work within its limits, there's nothing wrong with MGS1 today. Still a blast to play.

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