Board 8 > So, I finally beat FFT [playthrough purged] (SPOILERS)

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KingButz
08/18/11 12:32:00 PM
#1:


Despite my playthrough topic purging last week, I finally got to it and powered through Chapter 4. Finished the game.

For the most part it was pretty easy, although the last battle with Balk was absolutely awful and should have been the end. The fights with Rofel were annoying until I decided to just maintenance up. I ended up making Ramza a ninja, and that worked out best. Ninja+concentrate is godly, I must say.

Final boss was a total joke. Lich was absolutely broken on him. But I enjoyed the ending. I like to think Ramza and Alma didn't make it out alive. And that ****ing bastard Delita got what he deserved. Best moment of the game, because he was one of the best not-villains ever. I hated him much more than Algus.

Want more impressions? Ask me anything, fellas.

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Jeff Zero
08/18/11 12:33:00 PM
#2:


You hated Delita...

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...more than Algus?

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thundersheep
08/18/11 12:34:00 PM
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How does it rank with the other FFs, in your opinion?

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KingButz
08/18/11 12:38:00 PM
#4:


Jeff Zero posted...
You hated Delita...

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...more than Algus?


Algus was a dick and a bigot, that's for sure. He was even a slightly manipulate kiss-ass.

But Delita became a monster. He murdered several (innocent?) people just to satisfy his thirst for power, he tricked a girl into loving him just so he could get the throne from her, and he never showed a bit of guilt for it. His whole theme was "I'm going to get power so everyone can know how it feels to have a **** taken on them!"

He's pretty much a heartless murdering lying bastard.

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KingButz
08/18/11 12:40:00 PM
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FFT is probably my favorite of all the Final Fantasy games. I absolutely love the gameplay and the story (for the most part) was one of the most interesting in the series. I found the characters to be very human and understandable.

Of course, the whole Lucavi thing ruined it. I guess it wouldn't be Final Fantasy without an evil dark otherworldly force trying to destroy the world. I would have preferred something more... believable.

If that makes any sense.

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KingButz
08/19/11 7:55:00 AM
#6:


I see this topic got about as much attention as my playthrough. I guess FFT isn't as exciting as it used to be.

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Pram_the_Oracle
08/19/11 7:56:00 AM
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IIRC, Delita lives. Or something.

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Diet Water
08/19/11 7:56:00 AM
#8:


Delita is the best video game character ever.

Anyway now you need to play Final Fantasy Tactics 1.3

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DeathChicken
08/19/11 7:56:00 AM
#9:


I got the impression Alma and Ramza were alive, just because that makes more sense than them wandering around as ghosts, on ghost chocobos, which were dropping ghost feathers into a decidedly not ghost river

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KingButz
08/19/11 8:05:00 AM
#10:


Diet Water posted...
edit: And btw Delita lives happily ever after.

I'm not sure how canon the vague "long and peaceful rule" in game manual is. I like the ending better if he dies though, so...

Who knows when that after-credits scene happens, though?

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Ness26
08/19/11 8:08:00 AM
#11:


From: Diet Water | #008
Anyway now you need to play Final Fantasy Tactics 1.3


Naah.

And yeah, I like the ending better if Ralma dies, but I don't think that's what happens. I stopped caring about the story of FFT a loooong time ago. =/

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crazyisgood
08/19/11 8:09:00 AM
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Algus and Delita both sucked

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KingButz
08/19/11 8:12:00 AM
#13:


I was thinking about trying 1.3, but I will probably not get around to that. What's the name of that other newer mod?

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Ness26
08/19/11 8:29:00 AM
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From: KingButz | #013
I was thinking about trying 1.3, but I will probably not get around to that. What's the name of that other newer mod?


Laggy Fantasy Tactics (or just LFT).

1.3 is a hard-mode mod. If you want that, by all means try, but I don't think the word "fun" crossed the developer's mind once while making it. Plus he's really stuck-up and if you question any decision he deems that you suck at FFT and your opinion is moot.

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DeathChicken
08/19/11 8:31:00 AM
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You should do an SCC. Or an SSCC, if you're feeling insane

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KingButz
08/19/11 10:18:00 AM
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Ah yes, LFT. And I am thinking about doing an SCC sometime.

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transcience
08/19/11 10:46:00 AM
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LFT is great, 1.3 is garbage

I'd like to try LFT again to see where it's progressed in the last couple years

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Diet Water
08/19/11 12:06:00 PM
#18:


LFT is for losers with no strategy sense.

FFT 1.3 is the most satisfying game finish you'll ever do.

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KingButz
08/20/11 10:38:00 PM
#19:


LFT is more interesting to me than 1.3. I don't really want the game to be exceptionally difficult... I just want it to be enjoyable. LFT seems to have much more balance.

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BoshStrikesBack
08/20/11 10:43:00 PM
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Delita's easily my favorite character in the FF series, and I'm glad that he lived happily ever after.


Which he did. ^_^

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LeonhartFour
08/20/11 10:47:00 PM
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"Ramza, what did you get? I..."

One of the best concluding lines to a game ever.

Ramza >> Delita though.

I like to think Delita had a long reign where he was miserable and lonely the rest of his days because that's what he deserves for manipulating and using everyone around him.

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Lopen
08/20/11 10:48:00 PM
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1.3 wasn't too difficult for the first two chapters with the exception of two or three crazy battles.

The problem is all the enemies are equipped with item, infinite phoenix downs, and infinite elixirs, and don't have any reservations about using them. So battles, even those you are owning, last FOREVER.

Stopped playing in chapter 3.

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BoshStrikesBack
08/20/11 10:57:00 PM
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I like to think Delita had a long reign where he was miserable and lonely the rest of his days because that's what he deserves for manipulating and using everyone around him.

Really? Because I'd argue that Delita deserved complete power, control, and a kingship. Too bad he didn't get that


oh wait rofl

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SnoicFactor
08/20/11 11:02:00 PM
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Beating it really isn't the high point of that game. It's what you do afterwards.. Like building a custom army, maxing out gear, etc. I'm sure you'll like it even more than.

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LeonhartFour
08/20/11 11:03:00 PM
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I don't really care if he got all of those things. Doesn't mean he was happy, for one thing.

I mean, if you think that's what he "deserved," then good for you. And if he really did live "happily ever after," whoo.

Ramza was still the better man by a country mile.

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OmarsComin
08/20/11 11:07:00 PM
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BoshStrikesBack
08/20/11 11:21:00 PM
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I don't really care if he got all of those things. Doesn't mean he was happy, for one thing.

Pigs rolling around in the mud are "happy" too. Bottom line, Delita succeeded in his mission, making his campaign of intrigue a successful one.

Ramza was still the better man by a country mile.

Nice guys finish last, etc. etc.

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LeonhartFour
08/20/11 11:22:00 PM
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From: BoshStrikesBack | #027
Bottom line, Delita succeeded in his mission, making his campaign of intrigue a successful one.


I never said he didn't succeed. Doesn't mean he was happy with what was left over when he finished.

Nice guys finish last, etc. etc.


Depends on who's keeping track.

Pretty sure Ramza didn't care about "winning" in the first place anyway.

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Lopen
08/20/11 11:24:00 PM
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Yeah I don't understand how so many hate Algus for being a jackass yet praise Delita. Delita's the more despicable individual by far.

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Lopen
08/20/11 11:25:00 PM
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(Keep in mind, I like both characters)

(Algus is better though)

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LeonhartFour
08/20/11 11:25:00 PM
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Personality.

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LeonhartFour
08/20/11 11:44:00 PM
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Plus, the first part of the game builds up Delita as a guy you feel bad for because of all he experienced and you root for to overcome the odds, and you get a lot of his backstory so you understand why he is the way he is.

Algus is a jerk because he was born to be a jerk. The game never gives you an opportunity to identify with him or feel bad for him, really (Well, maybe one scene, but it's brief). You don't get to see him build up to it. He's already there.

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BoshStrikesBack
08/21/11 12:38:00 AM
#33:


What Leon said, plus this: Algus is the typical pampered aristocrat. He never worked for anything, being born into austerity and rank, and looks down on others simply because he was raised that way. He's an unreflective ass who's entirely a product of his elitist upbringing. Delita, on the other hand, actually worked for his goals, goals that were well thought-out and seeking a clear aim.

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Panthera
08/21/11 1:01:00 AM
#34:


From: Lopen | #029
Yeah I don't understand how so many hate Algus for being a jackass yet praise Delita. Delita's the more despicable individual by far.


Not really. Algus is a complete bastard who hates people solely for being born to the "wrong" parents. Almost everyone Delita kills is a jackass themselves and probably not better to have in positions of power than he is. The handful of non-jackasses he has run ins with tend to survive. He helped Ramza and Orlandu instead of trying to kill them (although they did benefit his plans by living), he didn't kill Balmafula, he never killed Olan, he only eventually killed Ovelia when she tried to kill him first. You can argue Zalmo probably wasn't a bad guy, and that's about it. He's not exactly a saint but in the overall scheme of FFT and its world full of giant dicks, he's one of the lesser evils for sure.

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Diet Water
08/21/11 5:42:00 AM
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The only truly difficult part of 1.3 is the Deep Dungeon and optional stuff.

Everything can be beaten pretty easily if you just use your wits.

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transcience
08/21/11 5:53:00 AM
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it's not about difficulty, it's just not fun

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Diet Water
08/21/11 6:09:00 AM
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It's the funnest game ever.

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Ness26
08/21/11 6:17:00 AM
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All of us except Butz have tried it. None of us liked it.

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Diet Water
08/21/11 8:39:00 AM
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Sucks for you guys.

Need some more FFT skills.

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Lopen
08/21/11 11:49:00 AM
#40:


I don't see the skill in playing whack a mole with phoenix down + elixir spam. I really don't.

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Diet Water
08/21/11 12:18:00 PM
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If the enemy is just sandbagging you like that then you definitely don't have skill. That's the least of 1.3 worries.

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Lopen
08/21/11 2:24:00 PM
#42:


It's not a "worry." I was just saying the thing wasn't particularly challenging with the exception of one or two fights.

It's obnoxious, though. Draws out unchallenging 5 minute fights into unchallenging 15 minute fights.

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DeathChicken
08/21/11 2:26:00 PM
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I'm guessing the response to that will be 'Nuh uh, get more skill'. Just a hunch

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Lopen
08/21/11 2:30:00 PM
#44:


Yeah I'm totally taking the troll bait <_<

I have a hunch the dude doesn't even like 1.3. Cause what sane person would except the creator.

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LeonhartFour
08/21/11 2:31:00 PM
#45:


put down the diet water and back away

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SpeedYoshi
08/21/11 2:32:00 PM
#46:


Delita was the best character in the game. Ramza was nothing without Delita

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LeonhartFour
08/21/11 2:38:00 PM
#47:


Ramza's goodness didn't have a lot to do with Delita, actually.

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KingButz
08/22/11 2:55:00 PM
#48:


Delita provided a nice contrast to Ramza, but Ramza still would have been a great character without him. He is one of the most selfless and loyal FF leads there is, and he doesn't really have many undesirable traits like the others do. Plus he has "Scream"

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redrocket
08/22/11 6:16:00 PM
#49:


KingButz posted...
Plus he has "Scream"

I have it on good authority that Ramza uses this move while peeing.

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Jeff Zero
08/25/11 2:34:00 AM
#50:


Don't blame me. Blame yourself or Mog.

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