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SpeedYoshi
08/25/11 3:47:00 PM
#51:


How good/bad was this (i won, but I dont think the guy was that good, he decided to buy duchiess after i decided to go dukes/duchies

[38 cards]
7 Dukes,
5 King's Courts,
4 Villages,
2 Hunting Parties,
2 Moats,
2 Trade Routes,
1 Sea Hag,
3 Coppers,
2 Silvers,
4 Golds,
1 Estate,
4 Duchies,
1 Province

I guess I should say, game ended when there were no dukes, duchies or curses left

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cf is best
08/25/11 3:59:00 PM
#52:


Actually the counter to the Duke/Duchy strat or or the gardens strat is to either pick some up yourself or if you think you can get a lot of provinces faster then they can get a lot of Dukes and Duchies.

Anyways, it's a bit difficult to tell how well you did based off of only your deck.

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Paratroopa1
08/25/11 3:59:00 PM
#53:


You have way too many King's Courts per other actions in the deck there.
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SpeedYoshi
08/25/11 4:08:00 PM
#54:


From: Paratroopa1 | #053
You have way too many King's Courts per other actions in the deck there.


Whys that? Felt about right, as I would get them with village/hunting party.. although there were a few times i only had a kings court, i guess because I had too many?

I mostly impossible to answer question, but should I have bought less kings courts or more villages/hunting parties

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cf is best
08/25/11 4:10:00 PM
#55:


You needed more Hunting Parties.

Does anyone want to play? I"m in the Great Hall as TehMop.

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SpeedYoshi
08/25/11 4:12:00 PM
#56:


in a game, but ill play after!

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cf is best
08/25/11 4:20:00 PM
#57:


What's your name?

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SpeedYoshi
08/25/11 4:21:00 PM
#58:


speedyoshi

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SpeedYoshi
08/25/11 4:23:00 PM
#59:


game should end.. soonish.. no +buy and very limited +cards (hamlet)

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Paratroopa1
08/25/11 4:23:00 PM
#60:


Yeah, the idea is that I would've wanted more Hunting Parties compared to the number of KCs you have. Most of your actions aren't very good to KC with - Sea Hag is great early but becomes completely worthless when the curse pile runs out, Trade Route is a difficult proposition because it's a forced trash, Moat is decent but kind of sad compared to... almost any other card-drawing card I can think of, and then there's Village, which you also have way too many of in this deck. You only want Villages when you have terminal actions and you have barely any terminal actions. KCing a Village isn't worthless but there are far better things to be doing.

KCing a Hunting Party is good, but you only have two Hunting Parties. Actually, this might surprise you, but given the kind of cards you have in your deck, I would actually say the ideal number of KCs for your setup is zero. I know that might be hard to believe, but KC is not as much of a must-buy as you might believe. It really depends on what you can KC.
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Paratroopa1
08/25/11 4:23:00 PM
#61:


Also, I'll hang out in the great hall room for a bit. Someone challenge me to some games.
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SpeedYoshi
08/25/11 4:34:00 PM
#62:


From: Paratroopa1 | #061
Also, I'll hang out in the great hall room for a bit. Someone challenge me to some games.


Ill do this.. and go eat something...

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08/25/11 4:53:00 PM
#63:


http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201108/25/game-20110825-163946-a7dee2db.html

Really crazy setup with me going for the Torturer chain and Para going for the Vault/GM combo. Only thing missing is a King's Court.

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WarThaNemesis2
08/26/11 1:44:00 AM
#64:


http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201108/26/game-20110826-013938-c6262dfd.html

This, THIS is how you Dominion.

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speedpunk
08/26/11 4:38:00 PM
#65:


So... are we gonna have a league or a tournament of some sort?

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Iubaris
08/26/11 8:59:00 PM
#66:


I think a league would be more fun than a tournament, simply so that people aren't eliminated really fast and can participate through the whole thing.

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Glenn_and_Toad
08/26/11 9:53:00 PM
#67:


or the league could be 'everyone go play on isotropic and post stories and whoever gets the most cool stories is league champion' with the advantage being that we have retroactively started.

serious answer: league, not tournament. I think about half of us are looking to improve, and playing one game won't help with that.

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Paratroopa1
08/27/11 1:41:00 PM
#68:


Ideally, this should be a league where you play lots of games, like a baseball kind of schedule, or at least a basketball one. I think games should be played in like, 3 game, if not 5 game series. Kind of like baseball, you need to play quite a few games of Dominion before you really start to see who's the best.
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Tom Bombadil
08/27/11 2:12:00 PM
#69:


It's kinda true. Everybody plays three games against everybody else? It's not like the games take all that long once you all get online together. And then maybe have some sorta best-of-five playoffs at the end.

Ideally I'd kinda like to do fun "stip" tournaments too, maybe like how smogon does for Pokemon. Got a few ideas knocking around in my head, but I'd wanna wait until after we do a more normal something.

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Paratroopa1
08/27/11 2:15:00 PM
#70:


Stip?
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Tom Bombadil
08/27/11 2:37:00 PM
#71:


Gimmick tournaments. Off the top of my head, things like letting the opponents take turns picking each card of the kingdom, or something like no provinces, or only terminals, or no attacks, or only one type of Kingdom card per deck.

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Paratroopa1
08/27/11 2:50:00 PM
#72:


That's an interesting thought.

I also kind of like the idea of doing something like, sort of how in contract bridge everyone plays the same hands and you compare how people do, it'd be interesting if like, everyone used the same setup.
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Tom Bombadil
08/27/11 6:15:00 PM
#73:


KC+Lab chain is pretty beastly

not that that's particularly surprising

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speedpunk
08/27/11 8:32:00 PM
#74:


http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201108/26/game-20110826-175234-17e18b71.html

I love me some Hunting Party spam.

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Paratroopa1
08/28/11 12:23:00 AM
#75:


Holy crap, I went 23-6 in my games today and moved up from level 17 to 21 in one day.
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Tom Bombadil
08/28/11 1:35:00 PM
#76:


yeah I have gone up to like 8 in the past few days after being at 0 for weeks and weeks

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agesboy
08/28/11 2:14:00 PM
#77:


I played Dominion for the first time in real life last night! Was dominating but misunderstood the rules and the game ended earlier than I thought ;_;

We didn't use any curses or extra s***, though.

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Paratroopa1
08/28/11 3:01:00 PM
#78:


I'm starting to hit a point where I'm getting REALLY good at Dominion, at least 1v1 - I'm wrecking almost everyone I play and that includes other people ranked close to or higher than me. So it's time to start a league now!
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Tom Bombadil
08/28/11 3:24:00 PM
#79:


I am not wrecking everybody but I AM winning the majority of my matches I think and I suck at games so I kinda concur

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Paratroopa1
08/28/11 7:00:00 PM
#80:


New favorite combo: Tactician + Black Market

Black Market allows you play your treasure without going into the buy phase, allowing you to play all your money and then play Tactician afterwards, as long as you leave one card. Then you can buy like normal, and then get a super Tactician turn afterwards.

The game in which I discovered this combo also included Goons, Farming Village, and Gardens. Farming Village is a great engine piece for this, getting you the actions you need while cycling through your green cards, and Goons is obviously just obscene in a deck where you can get tons of cards and extra buys. Gardens is then obscene because you have a s***load of cards in your deck. I won significantly, although my opponent figured out my tactic and copied it so it wasn't a completely obscene victory. It was like 96-78. I also got a Sea Hag as my first Black Market draw, which was amazing because there were no cursers in the setup.
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cf is best
08/28/11 8:47:00 PM
#81:


I hate Black Market. It's so stupid when your opponent gets something like Chapel in a trashless board or Witch in a curseless board.

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Tom Bombadil
08/30/11 2:08:00 PM
#82:


but it's so fun

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Tom Bombadil
08/31/11 1:59:00 PM
#83:


it's like a magical grab bag of ADVENTURE

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Paratroopa1
08/31/11 4:20:00 PM
#84:


A demonstration of what I like to refer to as the "sneaky bad" property of University:

http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201108/31/game-20110831-161755-333a3744.html

This guy is like the most advanced village idiot I've ever seen. He probably could've beaten me, but he wasted all this time buying out the entire f***ing kingdom while I settled for a crappy deck that had a lot of green cards in it.
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Paratroopa1
08/31/11 10:44:00 PM
#85:


http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201108/31/game-20110831-224300-fdfd655b.html

(Paratroopa draws: 3 Provinces, a Duchy, and a Gold.)
— MuffMacGuff's turn 28 —
MuffMacGuff plays a Masquerade.

This happened far too late in the game and to far too bad a player for it to matter, but holy s***.
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Paratroopa1
08/31/11 11:49:00 PM
#86:


http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201108/31/game-20110831-234823-c839b76c.html

Here's a game where I win 66 to -7.

I so thoroughly broke this poor guy that I think he just gave up. I'd feel bad, but I don't, because it's Dominion and if you don't pull these shenanigans then other people will do the same back to you.
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Tom Bombadil
09/01/11 12:27:00 PM
#87:


hate torturer so much

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cf is best
09/01/11 1:09:00 PM
#88:


Paratroopa1 posted...
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201108/31/game-20110831-224300-fdfd655b.html

(Paratroopa draws: 3 Provinces, a Duchy, and a Gold.)
— MuffMacGuff's turn 28 —
MuffMacGuff plays a Masquerade.

This happened far too late in the game and to far too bad a player for it to matter, but holy s***.


Wow a Witch/Embargo 5/2 he stood no chance.

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Paratroopa1
09/01/11 2:46:00 PM
#89:


cf is best | Posted 9/1/2011 1:09:40 PM | message detail | quote
Wow a Witch/Embargo 5/2 he stood no chance.


Wouldn't quite say that - Witch/Embargo is a brutal opening, yes, but he still should've done one or two things - he either should've bought a Young Witch and fought me on Curses with that, since I probably was not going to keep a bunch of Embargos lying around in my hand to use as protection, or he should've bit the bullet and bought a Witch even though I Embargoed them - really my intention wasn't even to stop him from getting the Witches, it was to make absolutely sure that I got a headstart in the Curse battle, or force him to use the worse Witches instead. (And I drew my Witch and Embargo in the same hand anyway.) He did neither of these things and instead went for useless things like having a big stack of Pirate Ships and Mines that did nothing to help him.
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cf is best
09/01/11 5:12:00 PM
#90:


Oh I know, I would have absolutely bought a Witch, that guy was stupid. However, it's still quite an uphill battle since the curses would have probably gone like 7-3 in your favor.

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Paratroopa1
09/01/11 5:15:00 PM
#91:


I would've gone the Young Witch route with a 4-3 split, personally, and try to get a 5-5 split or at least a 4-6 split. If he had I probably would not have even Embargoed the Witches at all.
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MalcolmMasher
09/02/11 1:10:00 AM
#92:


Count me in as interested in Dominion leagues, tournaments, or whatever.

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Ngamer64
09/02/11 2:05:00 AM
#93:


"The number of spots will be determined by the amount of interest, how many people per game you want to play (isotropic supports up to 4-person games)."

ACTUALLY, the website allows you to play with as many as 600 people in one game, if you want. It just automatically keeps scaling the winning requirements up for you (like when you add a 5th person you need to run through 4 full card stacks instead of 3). The most I've ever done personally is an 8 person game.

Anyways, guess I'll sign up, since this game is a blast!


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Paratroopa1
09/02/11 2:17:00 AM
#94:


MalcolmMasher | Posted 9/2/2011 1:10:57 AM | message detail | quote
Count me in as interested in Dominion leagues, tournaments, or whatever.


Wow, we are crazy close on the Isotropic leaderboard right now. I'm ranked #416 and you're #431, both level 26s.
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Paratroopa1
09/02/11 11:07:00 PM
#95:


http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201109/02/game-20110902-230500-20591aa1.html

23:04 <(*.*t): gg
23:04 Paratroopa: gg
23:05 <(*.*t): your really a lucky (not nice word for a homosexual person)

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Tom Bombadil
09/04/11 9:11:00 PM
#96:


man my new internet sucks for isotropic :\

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cf is best
09/05/11 12:33:00 PM
#97:


So there's a new veto mode on Isotropic that lets players ban cards from the board before the game starts. It's kinda cool since it allows for a bit of control to what's on the board.

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Paratroopa1
09/05/11 4:16:00 PM
#98:


Veto mode sucks because people veto stupid cards.
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Paratroopa1
09/06/11 2:52:00 AM
#99:


http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201109/06/game-20110906-025115-db36a5f8.html

rule #1 of Dominion: the winner of the game is the player with the most points at the end

This is easily the worst-played game of Dominion I have ever seen, by any player. It's not even close.
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