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I have actually never given Mario 3 a proper playthrough.

Should probably do that.

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Jeff Zero posted...
World > 3

I have to concur with tranny here - Mario World seriously lacks diversity in comparison to Mario 3, and I find Mario 64 to suffer from the same problem to some extent (not true with either Mario Galaxy though).

Hey Jeff, what's your ranking of the mainline Mario platformers? Mine would be SMB3 > SMG2 >= SMG1 > SM64 > SMW, and this is the only VG franchise which I feel that I can consider myself to be a "big fan" of (not a huge fan of Legend of Zelda, and I want to consider myself a huge Metroid fan but beyond Super Metroid and Prime, what the heck is there?). Here's hoping that Final Fantasy and Metal Gear can join this party.

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You have World painfully low; it almost wounds me. I love the vibrancy of World. I love its every damn pixel. I love it so much. Augh.

SMW > SMG2 > SMB3 > SMG1 > SMB > SM64 > SMB2 >SHINE

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Don't get me wrong, World is like third best.

SMB > SMB3 > SMW

All top tier.

We're almost at the point where I got a subscription. I think my first issue was the Super Castlevania IV cover.

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Also I had no idea the Inside Ki's body dungeon in FFL2 was shaped like an actual body. Really gotta zoom out the map to realize that, but that's pretty cool.

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Jeff Zero posted...
You have World painfully low; it almost wounds me. I love the vibrancy of World. I love its every damn pixel. I love it so much. Augh.

SMW > SMG2 > SMB3 > SMG1 > SM64 > SMB > SMB2 > SHINE

Oh well nice to find another SMG2 > SMG1 > SM64 person, although I have a feeling that it's more out of "not liking" Mario 64 than anything!

All five of them are in my top 15 anyway, and 3 of them are in my top 10 (which is absolutely killer since no other VG franchise more than 2 games in my top 15...yet).

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Holy crap Mega Man 2 password key, I don't think I've ever seen this before. Not that I'd really ever need to go looking for it at this point anyway.

And now I'm at big SMB3 guide issue. I wish I owned that thing. I read through a cousin's back when he got it, and tried to learn every trick I could from that thing.

The easiest thing to learn about the N-Card games is that every single layout has mushroom-flower-star in right of the bottom row.

And man, those maps are amazing. Those were all hand-drawn, right?

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How do you make a list of the most frustrating Battletoads levels and not include the one where you race the rat to the bottom of the elevator shaft? Or Volkmire's Inferno, which is like Turbo Tunnel but actually as hard as everyone acts like it is.

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Jeff Zero posted...
It's easy to love World more when you played it first and it's so much more colorful.

I don't deny 3 is probably technically the superior game but the beauty of World is awesome.

By contrast, when you play SMB1 first, then SMB2, then SMB3, and finally World, then World is thoroughly underwhelming.

Each one of the first three has a very different look and feel, introduced several new characters and special abilities.

And then World comes along, and...is basically a re-run of SMB3, with fewer powers, fewer worlds, less creative worlds (compare giant world, ice world, and pipe world to like...cave world, whatever the theme is supposed to be for doughnut plains, and chocolate world which sounds awesome until you realize it's basically just a pallet swap that actually looks pretty ugly, and the enemies are nothing to do with chocolate or even candy).

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Hm, I do see your point. Although I definitely don't think just about anything looks ugly in World, myself. But yeah.

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I played them in order and prefer World by a good bit.

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From: transience | #116
I played them in order and prefer World by a good bit.

Yay!

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boo

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Hey Mana Sword, what's the best Mana game?

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objectively SD3, but I prefer SoM because of NOSTALGIA

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From: The Mana Sword | #120
objectively SD3, but I prefer SoM because of NOSTALGIA

Oh, OK. Well SD3 is sorta what you said. So. "Yay!"

I respect preferring SoM for nostalgia though for sure. But I didn't grow up with it... so yeah. SD3 all the way.

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I like SoM more than SD3, mostly for the mulitplayer since all the characters are easy to use and in SD3 you can have friend join but he'll have no idea what to do with the characters. Also I feel like SD3 has a bunch of padding with the mana beasts and having to find rare drops to upgrade to the last class (yeah I know Sage Joch but at least his stuff was short)

Music and atmosphere is lot better in SoM than SD3, SoM had the more fairy tale look and charm with it while SD3 felt so generic JRPG.

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I definitely don't feel similarly. I have friends who know exactly what to do in multiplayer, the music and atmosphere is better in SD3 and all that "padding" is fun to me! Or at least it was the last time I played.

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Both are top 5 games of all time anyway.

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Speaking of the Mana series, I can't wait until we hit those issues in NP. I still have a few of them.

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I barley found any music from SD3 memorable, and all the areas in SD3 feel so cliche and been there done that. Not like SoM with stuff like that forest of seasons, the Walrus Village with Santa Claus, the Mushroom Village, the desert with the stars and space ocean, and the sunken continent with a subway full of zombies. Despite the lack of sidequests, I still enjoy going back to places in that game even if there's nothing to do, whereas in SD3 once your done in an area there's no reason to go back.

And I played SoM with a lot of casuals who can easily use Randi or Purim, yet have no idea what to do with any of the SD3 characters besides Kevin and mash.

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*shrugs* Ah well, different taste.

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I remember the old SoM artwork from the Nintendo power. The 60's issues had really dark artwork compared to the in game and 50's issue artwork. You can see it a giantbomb.

http://www.giantbomb.com/secret-of-mana/61-19507/artwork-nintendo-power-crops/52-102997/

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Heh. Nifty.

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Holy s***, Apple founder Steve Wozniak is pretty damn good at Tetris.

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Man, that picture of Mario's measly two powerups is so weak and drives home the lack of diversity when compared to Mario 3. Compare it to this image:



..and you can see why a lot of people prefer Mario 3. Game had some diversity, man. Anyway.


Yoshi in all his various colors makes up for it. Sure, Mario HIMSELF might not have as many different power-ups, but when the thing he rides does, shouldn't that count?

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SMW > SMG2 > SMB3 > SMG1 > SM64 > SMB > SMB2 > SHINE

Man we have similar tastes Jeff Zero. My ranking is SMW > SMB3> SMG1 > SM64 > SMB > SMB2 > SHINE

Haven't played enough of Galaxy 2 to rank it.

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From: JaKyL25 | #132
Yoshi in all his various colors makes up for it. Sure, Mario HIMSELF might not have as many different power-ups, but when the thing he rides does, shouldn't that count?

Not really, considering the only unique power up Yoshi has is the Yellow shell. Otherwise he just does what Mario does.

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Fire Flower
Cape
Yoshi
Ground Pound Yoshi
vs.
Fire Flower
Super Leaf/Tanooki Suit (don't give me that statue BS, they're the same thing)
Hammer Bros. Suit
Frog Suit
Kuribo's Shoe (for one level and one level only)

Give me SMW's power-ups anyday.

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Yoshi is a more enjoyable wrinkle. you can jump off him, fly, eat things, have different properties when you jump on enemies, etc. plus there's spin jump which Mario 3 didn't have. Mario 3 has more diversity but I think Mario World has more fun.

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Agreed. The Cape is the best powerup in any game ever.

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Well I actually prefer Mario 3 for the world design more than the power ups so I won't argue too hard there.

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I think ultimately I prefer SMW for the exploration aspect.

SMB3 is just straighforward action platforming at its finest, but I personally prefer a game that rewards taking the time to poke around a bit and look for secrets.

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If only SMB3 had more tucked away secrets like SMW! That game's just lacking in hidden stuff.

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From: JaKyL25 | #140
I think ultimately I prefer SMW for the exploration aspect.

SMB3 is just straighforward action platforming at its finest, but I personally prefer a game that rewards taking the time to poke around a bit and look for secrets.

You know... I think beyond what I view as a very pretty world I think that's the root. There's a lovely array of hidden stuff in World.

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I don't much care for exploring. A few games it works in like the old Zelda games but it's usually a negative if anything for me. That being said Mario World I don't think has all that much of it so it doesn't manage to annoy me with it or anything.

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Well for someone who doesn't really care for exploration it's probably a good balance in pleasing both my type and yours: there's a pretty respectable amount but there's always a straight-and-narrow path too.

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I actually did get all the secrets in SMW, for the record, but it wasn't till after I'd beaten the game that I got most of them.

I think SMW has "a good amount" of exploration though I don't mind having less.

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I think it's also that the exploration in SMW is a higher QUALITY than even later Mario games. Like both NSMB games have a few levels with hidden exits, and sometimes it does lead to a different level, but after that one level you're back on the main path again. But in World you had stuff like the branch at the beginning of the Vanilla Dome that didn't rejoin the main path until Forest of Illusion, two worlds later.

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Oh yeah, that branch.

And damn, I didn't even include NSMB or NSBMWii in my rankings. Might have something to do with the fact that I haven't played them! I do intend to resolve that.

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Issue 29 - Star Trek



TOC -

F-Zero! Metroid retrospective! Maybe this is the map somebody was talking about earlier.



F-Zero pushing new graphics and save technology thanks to being next gen.



Beautiful. I can't wait to see what they do for Super Metroid. I got out of NP by 1994, I think.

GB Top 30 -

Same games but Dr. Mario breaks up the top three. Metroid 2 hype for the first time -- and probably the impetus for revisiting Metroid 1. I didn't realize Metroid 2 took so long to come out. Metroid was already five years old by now.



SNES QA! $200! September 1991 (but not in Canada until 1992?)! SNES only launched with two games (three with Mario World)? Final Fantasy II!



SNES Launch game reviews. Actraiser has terrible control, huh? Every SNES launch game blew people's minds on a technical level and reviewed great as a result. That's... probably what happens with every new hardware gen, actually.

Top 30 -

TMNT loses the good fight and falls back to a tight fight between Battletoads, FF1 and MM3. Simpsons seems so out of place.



I liked this ad for FF2. Light Warriors! Also, NP named Cecil NATHAN.

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what is this SMW hating in this topic

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The SNES had a surprisingly good first month...almost every one of those games is a classic.

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