Board 8 > ~FIGHT!~ Bryan Fury vs. Lu Bu

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six hour match from 2AM to 8AM

I foresee many votes.

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team fury's argument -


Fury durability feats:

In the Tekken 3 ending, he completely no-sells a barrage of machine gun fire and a tank shell at point-blank range.


Also, in the Tekken 6 ending, he no-sells a helicopter crashing into him in a massive explosion.


Considering those kind of attacks didn't even faze him, Lu Bu certainly isn't going to be able to outright kill him in such a short amount of time.


team lu bu's argument -


In History, Lu Bu was known as the greatest warrior in Chinese history - unmatched on the battlefield, especially one on one duels. (Source: Wikipedia). But hey, this isn't history, it's the Dynasty Warriors 6 adaptation, which brings Lu Bu to the extreme. His weapon is designed to pierce through armor (and by extension, robot armor!) and is imbued with lightning, which is never good for a robot like Fury. In this situation, Fury isn't fighting back - its literally Lu Bu hacking away as fast as he can (and let me tell you, Lu Bu can hack fast) with a weapon designed to penetrate armor that will short circuit him once it does.

On top of being amazing at regular swordplay, Lu Bu also has his Musou, which for those who don't know is basically a limit break, which in this case basically hurls his weapon in a full 360 degree arc around him, which he can use as he's initially closing the distance to Fury (who by the way will not be running away or trying to avoid this at all). In addition to this, Lu Bu can activate his Swift Mode immediately starting the fight, which increases his attack power. 30 seconds is more than enough time for Lu Bu to down fury with no resistance or distractions at all.

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Lu Bu

Bryan always comes off ass crazy but he like, never wins a tourney so his strength is always wayyyyy overblown

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Lu Bu can probably do this with the musou + swift mode + lightning spear axe whatever thing. 35-40 seconds of wailing on Fury with that should be plenty enough-- either because he manages to pierce the armor by hacking through the neck area with his axe or because the lightning fries his ass.

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Fury has taunted Lu Bu into giving him his best shot. Fury will stand still, wide open, and the two will be 30 meters away from each other on neutral terrain. Lu Bu will have 30 seconds to kill Fury. Will he succeed?



Guidelines

- The fight will occur in real-time (like an FMV sequence). Gameplay mechanics are less important than how the characters would function in a real-time environment.

- The members of each team are ideal teammates capable of a pre-selected plan of battle.

- "Broken" refers to a lot of things, including insta-death, auto-effects, a variety of status effects (e.g., Imp, Silence, Stop, *not* Poison), and revival. Unless stated otherwise, nobody has them, though do use your own discretion.

- There may be SPOILERS from all of the games the characters are from.



Rules for Voting

- Bold your votes (using and ).

- Provide a justification for why you think the selected team would win. Fanboy logic, ignoring character assumptions or rules, and vague or unintelligible justifications are all grounds for having your vote disqualified.

- If you want to switch your votes simply bold the change; there's no need to delete your post, though you may if you wish.

- This match will end when one side reaches 7 votes, or in 6 hours, whichever comes first.



Bryan Fury is as he appears in Tekken 6. He has access to all his moves and techniques save for any gameplay mechanics. Regarding weapons, he has all those that he wields in the game, including the gatling gun and rocket launcher from his ending. And yes, he's every bit as durable as he canonically is.

Lu Bu is as seen in the Dynasty Warriors series, specifically in his Dynasty Warriors 6 form, though there's no invincibility here. He has all the movesets to all his weapons, begins with full Musou, has his skill tree complete, and has access to one use of his Special mode, Swift Attack, which he may use whenever he chooses. Lu Bu is armed with Sky Piercer with the Lightning element as seen in DW6, in addition to his Sky Scorcher from DW1-5, with the Light orb attached. Lastly, he’s also carrying Huang’s Bow from Dynasty Warriors 3-5, and has plenty of both regular and fire arrows.

30 is more than enough

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Oh it's 30.

Well whatever. I think he gets him in like 20.

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Make up your mind. First you say it'll take him 35-40 seconds, and then when I point out he doesn't have that much time, you suddenly reduce the amount of time that it takes him to win.

In any case, I'm going to refer you to the videos once again -- barrage of machine gun fire, no injury to Fury. Tank shell, no injury to Fury. Helicopter crashing into him, no injury to Fury. Lu Bu's got to be bringing substantially more heat than that to injure him, and you think he's going to outright die that quickly?


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He said "35-40 should be plenty", not that he thought that was the precipice - stop trying to attack his credibility when he clearly meant that "35-40, which is what I think the time limit is, is more than enough"

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The great thing is drak, is that this is all completely different damage - Piercing is much more effective on fury (especially from a lightning imbued weapon). I'd say if Lu Bu were pounding him with fists or something, yeah He'd be able to sit there all day. But this gets right inside of him

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Let's face facts, Lu Bu pretty much instantly kills whoever this other guy is

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I'd consider machine gun bullets to be piercing in nature due to velocity, so I don't think that Lu Bu's attacks are all that different in this context.


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Nah, Bullets are really more impact - They go through their mainly due to the velocity yeah, but Lu Bus weapons are actually designed to dig into materials like this

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For both kinds of weapons it's impact, so I'm not sure what you're getting at.


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35-40 is "plenty enough" as in I was assuming 5-10 seconds to get to him and a 45 second time limit so I just said "yeah that's enough" I wasn't trying to assign an exact time.

The problem with those feats is none of them target the weaker spots in his armor with a concentrated force. Like a dude wearing a blast suit is going to be good against explosions, but that doesn't mean it's going to stand up well against focused pressure to the joints.

Basically in terms of pressure per square inch Lu Bu's going to hit harder than explosions. The explosion is gonna do more damage on the whole to most things but for piercing through heavy armor Lu Bu's attack is going to be more effective. It's like-- a wall can stay standing sometimes if an explosion is near it, but a sledge hammer can go through that same wall pretty easily.

I'm thinking timeline of the match is basically.

0:05 - Lu Bu closes
0:05-0:10 - Lu Bu tests with some blows sweeps Bryan Fury and goes for a death blow to the neck.
0:10-0:30 - Hack as necessary till dead. Probably takes towards the lower estimate rather than the higher. The only thing is if Lu Bu's weapon isn't hard enough to cut through whatever Fury's made of-- then it might take towards the latter cause I imagine lightning damage being less efficient than piercing right through.

Thing is since he's got like a magic weapon and stuff he probably does get cut.

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The problem is that I don't see fury dying easily. Lu Bu actually has to kill him 100%, Fury is just 'dying' but still not dead by the 30 second count, he's lost. Even if he would have won in 10 more seconds. I've heard things about how people can live for a good 20 seconds even with pierced hearts/lungs.

Bryan Fury

He can do it but he can't do it in time. A lot of precious time is wasted getting to fury in the first place so yeah. This ability is dumb.

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Lu Bu.

This dude's ridiculously powerful already, enough to effortlessly cut floodwaves in half with nothing but movement from his wrist without budging himself. Add in the tons of buffs from Musou, Swift Attack, his weapons, and most importantly, Fury mode? I mean, in Fury mode he's essentially a DBZ character, he more or less is capable of leveling entire castle walls by gliding near them.

Cutting a defenseless opponent apart is no problem for him since he's got that ridiculous output. If ever there were a debatable weakness on Lu Bu, it'd be that his durability generally doesn't match his strength (though it's higher than human regardless).

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oh yeah lu bu has 1 use of fury, as seen in strikeforce, and will begin with it fully available. and he has infinite musou.

what does fury do, are there any good videos or proof of it's power

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Speaking of that gliding, Lu Bu can use that to cut the distance with Fury insanely fast. And then wreck Fury in good old Fury mode, because you know he's Furious that Fury challenged him to this pointless duel.

Heres a couple videos of Fury Mode: (Glide is showcased at around 1:06, watch as he seamless begins an assault!)

is him doing the transformation

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BIGPUN9999 posted...
Lu Bu

Bryan always comes off ass crazy but he like, never wins a tourney so his strength is always wayyyyy overblown


To be fair, Bryan's goal is never to win the tourney, so that kinda explains... Why he never does. >_>

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Fury

I can see Lu Bu wrecking some shop here in 30 seconds, but not quite enough to actually kill Fury. Dude is a walking (well, standing here) tank that shrugs off tank-like damage like it's nothing. Lu Bu is good and could probably output that damage eventually, but he's just not that good that fast.

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Lu Bu. Basically what Lopen said up there. 30 seconds of smacking away in Fury mode should be more than enough to down a robot who isn't trying to defend himself. It'd be different if he didn't have that, or if Bryan were trying to stall in any sort of fashion, but he isn't

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Looks like it will take Lu Bu maybe 3 seconds to cover 30 yards.

I don't think even Fury can take 20 seconds of Fury + Swift Attack Lu Bu hacking without being left a pile of scrap. Especially with the lightning damage added in. And Lu Bu's weapon is made for cutting through armor.

Lu Bu Though its close.

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It's really interesting to see how this has turned out. Last time this match occurred, it was unanimous for Fury except for Lopen, who's known as an outlier in terms of Tekken disrespect.


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As confused as you are, mang. I told Dante to chalk this one up as a loss!

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Oh. Well then.

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Man, where did the sudden Fury disrespect come from?

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I was louder this time.

Down with Tekken.

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More Lu Bu respect than Fury Disrespect

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Lu Bu's output is faster than a single blast too. Each hit's gonna be tough and doing lightning damage, and he's capable of going at it like a buzzsaw. Sitting to take repeated hits, especially to a single area like the head, neck, or chest is pretty much suicide!

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Repetition doesn't matter if your hits aren't powerful enough to break the target's durability.

Say, for instance, you have a FE archer shooting at Oswin. All of his shots tink for no damage. Now suppose that you have a rapid-fire archer who can shoot ten arrows in the same amount of time. He still isn't going to be doing any damage. The tenth arrow will bounce off just like the first.

In order for Lu Bu to hurt Fury, each of his attacks must individually be capable of more damage than a direct hit from a tank shell fired at point-blank range. You probably respect Lu Bu so highly that you see him having that kind of damage output. I'm just surprised at how many people apparently share your opinion.


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are we seriously still arguing this

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Yeah. Fury had a helicopter crash into him and didn't have a scratch on him. You have to be doing some INSANE damage with EACH strike to hurt him. There's a reason his story always revolves around something OUTSIDE of the tournament in each game. Namco can make him crazy and not have to explain why he doesn't win.

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You don't have to be overall stronger than those per individual hits to do damage. Focus and repetition can easily wear down and damage most anything better than just overall brute forcing it. Especially in the case of just trying to get through such a thin shell as a skull or neck.

Nevermind the fact when you come down to it, Lu Bu applies far more force per area in his strikes, rather than just being simply a widely dispersed force! Saying Fury's unbeatable by it is like saying a person who survives a car crash can't get their limbs severed by a chainsaw or something.

I mean the durability helps in most fighting scenarios because most of the time the durable guy's capable of fighting back and moving. Fury's not here, and even then his speed's really really unimpressive.

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Yeah, wearing down an area will work... But someone as durable as Fury, and in 30 seconds? Dude takes a tank shell to the chest, and while his shirt is torn, his "skin" is perfectly unscathed. I just don't buy having enough power in such a short amount of time.

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Just some showings on Lu Bu's power, along with some comparisons:



Doesn't even have to be close to hurt people with the force of his slashes.



Doesn't budge from this entire river's worth of a flood, and enough power to cut that wave in half without even really using any arm strength, that's nothing but twists of his wrist.



Another showing of a fairly laidback hit launching someone and yet clearing out everyone behind him within a like... 5 yard field just from the force carrying on. Right after that, shows someone who's weaker than Lu Bu launching all those people with a slam.



Just as a showing on how ridiculous even a guy Lu Bu outclasses is. Literally running on water, and at 30 seconds in? He literally just capsized a boat with nothing but his own raw power. When it comes to these guys matching up too, Lu Bu has him without a doubt outclassed on everything but debatably speed.

And just as a random other showing of strength by some of these guys, they're able to uproot trees (roots and all) with their bare hands and carry them around like they were weeds.

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Lu Bu lost to Lara and Vivi.

That says about everything you need to know.

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In what timelime?

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The second most important one tbqh.

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Epsilon?

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