Board 8 > Daily reminder: SNES is the best console of all time.

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PS2 and GBA/DS are the only other possible contenders.

I'd say "discuss," but there's really not a lot to discuss when something is so obviously true, right? :D

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I've never touched an SNES, so idk.

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PS2 over PSX? Ick, not for my genre. To be fair though, there are still a number of promising PS2 RPGs I need to check out.

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Not even top 3!

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PS2 over PSX? Ick, not for my genre. To be fair though, there are still a number of promising PS2 RPGs I need to check out.

Oh, I was including PSX games into the PS2 library. What genre in particular is "your genre"? jRPGs? Platformers?

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I don't remember seeing this topic on any other days!

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SNES is by far the best console in my hyper-nostalgic brain. It's probably not the best objectively.

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Oh, I was including PSX games into the PS2 library. What genre in particular is "your genre"? jRPGs? Platformers?

JRPGs, mainly, although I'm kind of "too mainstream for my own good" still, currently, in that I haven't played anything from Shin Megami Tensei and barely any Suikoden. Working on that as well as getting into Dragon Quest properly. (Wow, I sound like LMS.)

Platformers are probably my second-favorite though. Love Genesis Sonic, enjoy Mario, quite enjoy Mega Man.

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I can actually agree with this! The GBA is lol, though. Sorry man.

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I can actually agree with this! The GBA is lol, though. Sorry man.

A surprising number of people argue that DS + GBA backwards compatibility edges out the SNES in terms of quality.


I am not one of those people.

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Wait, if you're counting backwards compatibility, why wouldn't a fully-BC PS3 be a better option than a PS2?

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You know I had started to doubt this but then I read the SNES retrospective in the latest Nintendo Power and I was like god DAMN I miss those days.

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you destroyed your credibility by mentioning the DS as a contender.

SNES was good though! best ever? eehhhh, idk.

Destroyed credibility by not saying PS3 is the best then through backwards compatibility.

Hell even the Wii becomes a decent console.

Backwards compatibility obviously doesn't count towards "best ever" status and people who try to pretend it does are the worst.

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PS2 >>> SNES = PS1 >>>>> N64 > DS

GBA is just outside the top 5

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Consequently, it is also the best inanimate object ever.

At least according to Board 8. When it isn't feeling quite so fond of the Pen.

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Not even the best from it's generation!

Genesis > PS2 > SNES > N64 > PS1

PS1 > SNES > PS2 > DS > whatever

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Dauntless Hunter posted...
Backwards compatibility obviously doesn't count towards "best ever" status and people who try to pretend it does are the worst.

I make a distinction.

Anything a console can do counts towards determining "Best Console Ever."

Only the games that are actually released for the system count towards which console has the "Best Library."

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PS2>Other stuff

360 and SNES would probably be next on the list.

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Anything a console can do counts towards determining "Best Console Ever."


if that's the case we can just call the PC the best console ever and have no argument from anyone!

DS and GBA are both better, I think.

So is Gamecube.

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OmarsComin posted...
Anything a console can do counts towards determining "Best Console Ever."


if that's the case we can just call the PC the best console ever and have no argument from anyone!

Honestly I think PC almost certainly has a better library than any console too, since it spans decades and includes a fair amount of ports from consoles.

Depends on what genres you like though. For the life of me I can't imagine anyone putting the PS1 over the PS2 unless they just REALLY love JRPGs.

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yeah if we count PC as a game console it'd be up there for me too. might even be the best! if you're into strategy games it isn't even a question.

Negative. PS2 is the best.

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From: OmarsComin | #022
Anything a console can do counts towards determining "Best Console Ever."


if that's the case we can just call the PC the best console ever and have no argument from anyone!

iPhone best game console ever

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Omar, I usually agree with what you think. But Genesis > SNES? How? Pick a genre, and I guarantee that the Super Nintendo wins handily. In fact, this could be a fun experiment!

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From: BoshStrikesBack | #028
Pick a genre, and I guarantee that the Super Nintendo wins handily.

Pinball
Sports
Strategy RPG
whatever genre Toejam & Earl is

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Pinball
Sports

lol k

Strategy RPG

Genesis has Shining Force, SNES has Fire Emblem. It's not even a comparison.

whatever genre Toejam & Earl is

Uh, platformers? Pretty sure SNES wins there!

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I think it wins in platformers, though just barely.

Sonic 1-3+K, Ristar and Rocket Knight Adventures

vs

Super Mario World 1 and 2, DKC 1 and 2, and Do-Re-Mi Fantasy

I'll take the first set.

Beat em ups are easy win for the Genesis: Streets of Rage 2 and 3 vs an iffy Final Fight port and two mediocre Final Fight sequels.

Spaceship shooters are another easy Genesis win. Too many to name on the Genesis, vs basically Gradius III and UN Squadron on the SNES.

strategy another good one for Genesis. Herzog Zwei and Dune II vs not much!

From: BoshStrikesBack | #030
Genesis has Shining Force, SNES has Fire Emblem. It's not even a comparison.

Uh you said Super Nintendo wins, not Super Famicom wins. Try again!

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From: BoshStrikesBack | #030
whatever genre Toejam & Earl is

Uh, platformers? Pretty sure SNES wins there!

yeah totally a platformer

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oh also! Genesis has the best action games. Gunstar Heroes, Shinobi III, Mega Turrican vs the Super Turrican games, all I can think offhand. If you really want to stretch it you can probably count Super Metroid but even then it's still in favor of the Genesis.

RPGs are pretty one sided if you count Japan only releases but if it's only US it's closer. Phantasy Star and Shining Force are notable, at least. Genesis loses either way but it's not a smackdown if you only count US releases!

though maybe we can count Mega Man X as action? closer then. Mega Man X is really good, X2 and X3 are alright. It might be a wash at that point.

From: OmarsComin | #151


Beat em ups are easy win for the Genesis: Streets of Rage 2 and 3 vs an iffy Final Fight port and two mediocre Final Fight sequels.

Turtles in Time?

Also where do Super Metroid and Super Casltevania fall? They give nintendo boosts to whatever genre they belong in.

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Turtles in Time is balanced by Hyperstone Heist, I think. They're practically the same game and both really fun.

Yeah I was thinking about Super Metroid and Super Castlevania IV. I don't know that SM even has an equivalent on the Genesis, and certainly nothing as good. Super Castlevania IV is... a platformer? Action-adventure? I don't even know! In any case, Castlevania Bloodlines is better than Super Castlevania IV by just a tad, so they can probably cancel out. And we haven't mentioned them, but each system's Contra game probably does the same.

PS2 > PS1 > SNES

These are the three consoles I consider the big three. PS2 IMO is the undisputed best console of all time.

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Super Nintendo wins racing handily. Super Mario Kart, F-Zero, three Top Gear games. The Genesis has three Road Rash games and a not great port of one of the Top Gears. I'd say that's pretty one sided.

From: OmarsComin | #038
Castlevania Bloodlines is better than Super Castlevania IV by just a tad

now this i just cant agree with at all

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HM-ZFS will have my back on that, I'm pretty sure

where you at ZFS

No one's even mentioned LttP yet?

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Fighting games were better on SNES. Both systems got most of the same ones, but apart from Mortal Kombat 1, the SNES versions were usually superior. The main point of difference I can think of is Genesis's Eternal Champions vs SNES's Killer Instinct, which I'd say is strongly in favor of SNES.

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LttP is Action/Adventure. Have we talked about that genre yet?

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Genesis has Crusader of Centy and Beyond Oasis, SNES has LttP as well as Secret of Mana, Soul Blazer, and Illusion of Gaia. SNES wins that comparison.

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OmarsComin posted...
RPGs are pretty one sided if you count Japan only releases but if it's only US it's closer. Phantasy Star and Shining Force are notable, at least. Genesis loses either way but it's not a smackdown if you only count US releases!

Phantasy Star and Shining Force are pretty good, I'll give you that.

But they are facing FF IV and VI, CT, Secret of Mana, Ogre Battle, Earthbound, and Lufia II.

"Not a smackdown" ok bud

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Uh you said Super Nintendo wins, not Super Famicom wins. Try again!

lol. I think it's fair to include Japanese games for both the Genesis and SNES.

think it wins in platformers, though just barely.

Sonic 1-3+K, Ristar and Rocket Knight Adventures

vs

Super Mario World 1 and 2, DKC 1 and 2, and Do-Re-Mi Fantasy

I'll take the first set.

You're missing a *ton* for the SNES set. Super Mario All-Stars, Megaman 7 and X1-3, Rockman & Forte, Kirby Super Star and Kirby's Dreamland 3... probably a few more I'm missing.

strategy another good one for Genesis. Herzog Zwei and Dune II vs not much!

SNES has Fire Emblems 3, 4, and 5, Treasure Hunter G, Bahamut Lagoon, Front Mission, Tactics Ogre, and a handful of very good Super Robot Wars games.

And I just want to be clear about how much the SNES devastates the Genesis in terms of RPGs. We've already covered SRPGs, but it's also true for jRPGs (obvious) and action RPGs (Terranigma, Secret of Mana, Seiken Densetsu III).

As a bonus, the SNES has the best puzzle game ever in Panel de Pon!

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Fighting games were better on SNES. Both systems got most of the same ones, but apart from Mortal Kombat 1, the SNES versions were usually superior. The main point of difference I can think of is Genesis's Eternal Champions vs SNES's Killer Instinct, which I'd say is strongly in favor of SNES.

Yeah I think that's fair. You also needed the 6 button controller for the Genesis to really play fighting games, which I'd guess most people did not have.

LttP is Action/Adventure. Have we talked about that genre yet?

yeah this is one of those places where our genre classifications get a big wonky. there's no real comparison for LttP or Super Metroid, and there's not a quality comparable game for Shinobi III or Gunstar Heroes.

"Not a smackdown" ok bud

I'm probably being pretty generous for the Genesis there. I suppose RPGs really are one sided whether you count Japan releases or not. It just gets even more lopsided once you add Japan stuff.

You're missing a *ton* for the SNES set. Super Mario All-Stars, Megaman 7 and X1-3, Rockman & Forte, Kirby Super Star and Kirby's Dreamland 3... probably a few more I'm missing.

mostly a cutoff line thing (though I didn't count All-Stars because it's a port). I didn't count Vectorman 1 and 2 or Dynamite Headdy either!

also I'm not sure where it fits but Comix Zone is worth mentioning also!

SNES has Fire Emblems 3, 4, and 5, Treasure Hunter G, Bahamut Lagoon, Front Mission, Tactics Ogre, and a handful of very good Super Robot Wars games.

I don't really count most of those as strategy games! the RPG disparity is growing every time someone lists something though.