Board 8 > Naomi's [Mario Kart 64] AI Tournament-thing

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Naomi_Diamond
07/19/11 10:10:00 PM
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I did this last year. There's no user participation involved. I just do it for the fun of it.

I pit the AI against each other to see who the best racer is. Because there are 8 racers, and 16 courses, it rounds out to an even number where I play as each character twice. Results are scored individually for each race, and add up in the end. The point is to score the lowest amount of points after all 16 courses are finished.

Last years results:
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The "---" means that I was playing as that character for that course, and thus they scored a "0". Basically, everyone participates in 14 of the 16 courses, because I have to be someone.

Starting pane:
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Where I play as the characters was randomized. I'll update the scoreboard after every race. My character in no way affects the other seven racers - I move to the side and idle while the race plays out. No bias. I probably won't finish this tonight, but I felt like getting it started. I also did this with SSB and Advance Wars, though I don't have those saved (new laptop).

Can Toad win it again? Possibly! Let's find out.


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Naomi_Diamond
07/19/11 10:12:00 PM
#2:


Oh yeah, and I also did a HUGE AI tournament with every team (global) from the FIFA World Cup game. That thing took me forever. Portugal beat Spain in the finals (Australia beat the Netherlands in the 3rd place match).

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Blairville
07/19/11 10:16:00 PM
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I remember this! I think Yoshi's gonna get first, and Bowser was so far behind last time that there's no way he's getting better than last.

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KCF0107
07/19/11 10:17:00 PM
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I remember this. I will follow again

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Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer
07/19/11 10:20:00 PM
#5:


let's go Toad

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Naomi_Diamond
07/19/11 10:30:00 PM
#6:


More notes:

The Grand Prix is always set to 150cc.
I do not continue with the same Grand Prix for every course. I'm aware that usually one racer is uber for each Prix, which is why I reset the Prix after every race.


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KommunistKoala
07/19/11 10:31:00 PM
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Come on Yoshi. Or Luigi

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Naomi_Diamond
07/19/11 10:40:00 PM
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Luigi Raceway results:

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Results somewhat flipped from last year. Wario dominated. No question he was getting first. Bowser did well. Toad/Luigi... not an impressive start.


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Naomi_Diamond
07/19/11 10:51:00 PM
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Moo Moo Farm results:

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And after Yoshi's starting immunity...

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RappinHobo9292
07/19/11 11:04:00 PM
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Go go Toad

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Naomi_Diamond
07/19/11 11:05:00 PM
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Koopa Beach results:

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From worst... to first. Wario shows his first signs of cracking (came in 6th at the last second). And Luigi proves nothing.


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Emporer_Kazbar
07/19/11 11:08:00 PM
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Luigi's gonna comeback. Just you wait and see.

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Naomi_Diamond
07/19/11 11:10:00 PM
#13:


I will be!

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Naomi_Diamond
07/19/11 11:31:00 PM
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Kalimari Desert results:

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Big fight for first this course. Last place was cemented about midway through. Everything else was an open forum. Yoshi, for example, was at one point as high as third. Mario remains fairly in the middle of everything.


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Naomi_Diamond
07/19/11 11:44:00 PM
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Toad's Turnpike results:

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Five different winners in five courses. Good variety! Bowser almost stole this one. He crashed at the last second. Yoshi once again was all over the place. Last place never changed all race, and was hardly a question.


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todbot1
07/19/11 11:48:00 PM
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Come on Bowser, you got this.

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Blairville
07/20/11 12:01:00 AM
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I picked Yoshi but I'm secretly cheering for Peach, no matter how unlikely it is. Believe.

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Naomi_Diamond
07/20/11 12:30:00 AM
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Choco Mountain results:

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A new winner! Things are tight.


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Naomi_Diamond
07/20/11 12:31:00 AM
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I'll do more tomorrow.

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LeonhartFour
07/20/11 12:31:00 AM
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At least finish off the Cup!

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Naomi_Diamond
07/20/11 12:34:00 AM
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The last races take the longest. >->

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LeonhartFour
07/20/11 12:47:00 AM
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Mario Circuit is one of the shortest courses in the game!

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Justin_Crossing
07/20/11 12:50:00 AM
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luigi on a roll

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Naomi_Diamond
07/20/11 1:00:00 AM
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No, I mean I have to go through the entire Prix to get to Mario Raceway. I reset after every course, so the last one takes the longest to reach, while the first one is right there.

Anyway!

Mario Raceway results:

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First back-to-back winner! The last three spots were all seconds apart.

Now that we're halfway through, is it safe to call a Mario win? Outside of MMF, he's kicking butt. I have to believe he'll drop off a little at some point. I mean, he's got an immunity coming up. Toad won last year with 44 points. If Mario replicates this, he'll be sitting pretty with 38. Possible? Or maybe his brother will make a come back.


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Naomi_Diamond
07/20/11 1:02:00 AM
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In fact, last year, midway through, the eventual winner had 19 points...

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Naomi_Diamond
07/20/11 10:53:00 AM
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Wario Stadium results:

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It was a close race throughout. No placement was determined until they crossed the line. Looks like I spoke too soon on Mario.


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Emporer_Kazbar
07/20/11 11:01:00 AM
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Luigi showin' signs of life!

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Naomi_Diamond
07/20/11 11:11:00 AM
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Sherbet Land results:

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Peach won handily on the final lap, but it was close before that. Position 4-7 were all a toss up.

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GTM
07/20/11 11:24:00 AM
#30:


How do you view the results of a race for your writeups? do you use the square map?

also say, for Royal Raceway, you'd have to play through the first 2 courses to get there? Wouldn't that affect the results?

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Naomi_Diamond
07/20/11 11:30:00 AM
#31:


Yeah, I use the square map. I like it the most.

And yeah, to get to any race that's not the first, I have to first play through all of the ones before them, and place in it at least 4th (otherwise I'm forced to retry or quit). This doesn't affect the results because I don't count the results when I'm just trying to get through.

For example, it goes watch [Luigi Raceway] - tally results.
Play through [Luigi Raceway] - get at least 4th. Watch [Moo Moo Farm] - tally results.
Play through [Luigi Raceway] - get at least 4th. Play through [Moo Moo Farm] - get at least 4th. Watch [Koopa Beach] - tally results.

And then it's even longer for the last one. So I get to play the game and watch it!

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Emporer_Kazbar
07/20/11 11:32:00 AM
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I would like to add that you should totally do a Mirror Mode tourney after this.

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07/20/11 11:35:00 AM
#33:


I mean can't it affect standings? I remember in Super Mario Kart, the order of the racers are affected by what place in the standings they are. You could, say, attack 1st in order Bowser until he's last, and then sneak into 4th. If Bowser didn't catch up, he would be last for the rest of the 4 races.

I know Mario kart 64 isn't exactly like that but I assumed that if Mario was last, the rest of the races he would be with the lower end of the racers. Is it not like that?

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Naomi_Diamond
07/20/11 11:43:00 AM
#34:


I'll consider Mirror Mode.

Also, GTM, I haven't noticed it being like that.

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charmander6000
07/20/11 11:53:00 AM
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I know Mario kart 64 isn't exactly like that but I assumed that if Mario was last, the rest of the races he would be with the lower end of the racers. Is it not like that?

Nope. The game has two really good racers and they are good regardless of the results of the race. I remember getting the best racers to come in 7th and 8th in Wario Stadium by using a lightning bolt before the jump and they were back on top for the next race.

I assume it's the same for the lower racers as well.

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Naomi_Diamond
07/20/11 12:00:00 PM
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Frappe Snowland results:

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First two-time winner arrives. Close battle too. Last place, yet again, remains uncontested.


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GTM
07/20/11 12:18:00 PM
#36:


Alright, then I stand corrected.

Carry on!

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Naomi_Diamond
07/20/11 12:20:00 PM
#37:


Royal Raceway results:

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Mario shouldn't have been in the top 3. It was Wario/Luigi/Peach all race, then something crazy happened at the end and yeah.

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07/20/11 12:21:00 PM
#38:


lol Bowser

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todbot1
07/20/11 12:22:00 PM
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I still believe :(

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Naomi_Diamond
07/20/11 12:41:00 PM
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Bowser's Castle results:

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Last place was embarrassing. Over half a lap behind. Mario is cracking!

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Naomi_Diamond
07/20/11 12:59:00 PM
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D.K.'s Parkway results:

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First place was uncontested. Our first triple winner! Mario went from last place, to second place, to tripping at the finish line. Wario tripped also, giving Peach a better standing.


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todbot1
07/20/11 1:00:00 PM
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awww yeah.

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Blairville
07/20/11 1:00:00 PM
#43:


Bowser's trying his best, I respect that.

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07/20/11 1:01:00 PM
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Bottom 3 have a bye each, interesting.

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Naomi_Diamond
07/20/11 1:15:00 PM
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Yoshi Valley results:

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Blairville
07/20/11 1:20:00 PM
#46:


MariChoke James

Bowser's not winning unless both Mario and Yoshi do poorly for the next 2 races. Peachie has a good chance.

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07/20/11 1:23:00 PM
#47:


Yoshi <3

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LeonhartFour
07/20/11 1:24:00 PM
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Poor Weegi.

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07/20/11 1:25:00 PM
#49:


hey, Peach is the only one that hasn't been last yet

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todbot1
07/20/11 1:27:00 PM
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Yet, you say?

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