Board 8 > AoD: Eastern Kingdoms > Kalimdor

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Inviso
06/27/11 1:32:00 PM
#1:


A while back I went through every pre-BC zone in the game on one of my Horde alts to get the Loremaster achievement, and just recently, I started playing an Alliance alt on a new server, and having only completed three zones (Elwynn, Westfall, Redridge) thus far, it seems like a FAR superior continent, regardless of alignment.

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Articuno2001
06/27/11 1:43:00 PM
#2:


Agree.

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Pirateking2000
06/27/11 1:45:00 PM
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Agree

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LordoftheMorons
06/27/11 1:48:00 PM
#4:


Agree.

Also the old Loremaster of Kalimdor achievement was a lot more of a pain in the ass to get than the old EK achievement (for Horde, at least).

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Wedge Antilles
06/27/11 1:49:00 PM
#5:


Agree

Hard to believe people would disagee.

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Azp2k32
06/27/11 1:52:00 PM
#6:


Agree. I have some nostalgic feeling for stuff like Darkshore and all having started as a Nelf my first time, but they just paint storylines a lot better in EK and do the questing a hell of a lot better.

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paerarru
06/27/11 1:57:00 PM
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Well what criteria are you using to make the comparison, or is it just in general? I like Kalimdor better, so Disagree. The Eastern Kingdoms have some cool spots, but Kalimdor has more of an untamed, undiscovered wilderness feel. Note that I have -quested through- pretty much every single zone (pre Cata), with many characters on both factions. Well except Deadwind Pass, which doesn't have quest hubs.
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Iamdead7
06/27/11 2:00:00 PM
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Agree

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Inviso
06/28/11 1:23:00 AM
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Just finished Duskwood and honestly, I don't get all the hype. I mean, yeah, Cataclysm probably changed things a little, but still, it was a weak zone, especially following Redridge and Westfall. To me, it was a lot like Feralas (old-school Feralas) in that it has a bad layout, with the main quest hub being one one side of the map without a really solid quest hub outside of that (Raven Hill does not count towards anything).

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Justin_Crossing
06/28/11 1:24:00 AM
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Atmospherically, Kalimdor thrashes Eastern Kingdoms, but in general Eastern Kingdoms >> Kalimdor.

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Inviso
06/28/11 1:28:00 AM
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Atmospherically, Kalimdor is either dead, dying, or an oasis in the middle of a dead/dying area (or it's the northwest corner, with the islands and Moonglade). It's just not a very fun continent, especially with a poor storyline, IMHO.

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Anagram
06/28/11 1:29:00 AM
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Agree

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turbopuns
06/28/11 1:47:00 AM
#13:


Let's see. Pre-Cata, Kalimdor or Eastern Kingdoms.

I've gotta go with Disagree here.

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Justin_Crossing
06/28/11 1:50:00 AM
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yeah but Eastern Kingdoms is all forests and badlands.

Kalimdor has super fancy forests and badlands. (plus thousand needles post-cata is great)

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turbopuns
06/28/11 1:54:00 AM
#15:


You want to talk about zones that have nothing to offer?

Blasted Lands
Badlands
Loch Modan
Alterac Mountains
Eastern Plaguelands
Swamp of Sorrows (although I friggin love sunken temple)
Hinterlands
Arathi highlands
Dun Morogh
Westfall

I literally hate all of those with a fiery passion. Kalimdor has some bad ones too, but they are redeemed much better, imho.

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turbopuns
06/28/11 1:56:00 AM
#16:


Justin_Crossing posted...
yeah but Eastern Kingdoms is all forests and badlands.

Kalimdor has super fancy forests and badlands. (plus thousand needles post-cata is great)


This.

Also, basically everything post-cata is great. Especially TN.

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turbopuns
06/28/11 9:56:00 AM
#17:


Bump because I want to see more opinions.

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LordoftheMorons
06/28/11 2:22:00 PM
#18:


Huh? EPL is awesome.

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MarvelousGerbil
06/28/11 5:02:00 PM
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D.... I probably a bit biased because I'd say Horde>Alliance and Troll>Goblin>Tauren>Orc>Undead>BElf, so I have to go way out of the way to experience EK on any character I'd enjoy playing, but I've certainly had more fun with Kalimdor.

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tyder21
06/28/11 5:05:00 PM
#20:


Even though I spent like double my time in Kalimdor (horde ftw), I'm going to go ahead and agree.

It might be worth it to note that I have not seen any area post-Cataclysm.

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Inviso
06/28/11 5:09:00 PM
#21:


I hate the layout in Alliance Stranglethorn too.

Two major posts: one at the very north end of the zone, and one at the very south with nothing in between, which means long-ass treks to get to quest objectives and back again.

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paerarru
06/28/11 5:10:00 PM
#22:


Duskwood is fun but yes, the layout is atrocious.

Atmospherically, Kalimdor is either dead, dying, or an oasis in the middle of a dead/dying area

Well, EK have the undead zones. That's deader than dead (though they're cool). And Blackrock's surroundings are cinder and ash. But I get what you're saying. EK do have the nicer, more traditional forest and grass atmosphere. With Kalimdor you have to appreciate a sparse landscape, yes. The contrast between the lush and the barren is what makes it beautiful.

I admit I'm slightly biased towards Horde as well, but I did play both factions pretty equally.
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paerarru
06/28/11 5:12:00 PM
#23:


STV is tough for alliance, yes, which is a shame. But hey, Horde had to get something down there. Alliance has Theramore.

They still have it, right? Theramore is cool.
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SpeedYoshi
06/28/11 5:14:00 PM
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D as I was a horde player

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Inviso
06/28/11 5:20:00 PM
#25:


I'm a Horde player too, but the Horde areas in EK are just so much better than in Kalimdor.

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SpeedYoshi
06/28/11 5:27:00 PM
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...maybe if you're a be player.......

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Inviso
06/29/11 10:09:00 AM
#27:


Nope. Troll Rogue. But I recently ran through all the pre-BC zones for loremaster stuff and EK is just SO much better.

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paerarru
06/30/11 4:38:00 AM
#28:


Again, I can see how it might look that way if you're just running through them. They are "nicer" looking.
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Inviso
07/01/11 1:52:00 PM
#29:


I'm not even talking about outward appearances, because I loved Badlands. I'm talking about quest lines. I think it's mostly because humans are the most villainous of the Alliance and Undead are the most villainous of the Horde, so having a continent in which they're facing off the whole time is awesome. Regardless of which side you choose, it feels like you have an actual coherent storyline. Undead are all about expanding their territories, or at least trying to keep humans/worgen from encroaching further into their territory, and you get to watch the Undead do their thing through the entire northern half of the continent, and once you finish that, you advance to the Deathwing plot that leads all the way to the Dark Portal. Humans, I don't know entirely thus far, but they're dealing with their own problems and it's a unique and enjoyable storyline.

Kalimdor, you have the orcs, who are a******s occasionally, especially with Garrosh, but Tauren are generally peaceful, trolls are generally peaceful, and goblins are puntable. Up against them you have draenei and night elves, which are two of the more peaceful Alliance races. So really throughout doing Kalimdor quests, most of the time I felt like a complete a****** for doing them. I was either sabotaging Alliance diplomacy, or destroying nature, or detonating a massive bomb. And then the endgame zones for Kalimdor start this new war with the silithids, but honestly, they aren't all that threatening and it completely ruins the flow of the zone (plus the other endgame zone, Wintergrasp, is f***ing pointless).

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Wedge Antilles
07/01/11 1:54:00 PM
#30:


Even the most villainous Alliance race is still pretty good.

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turbopuns
07/01/11 2:37:00 PM
#31:


Still haven't made a worgen, but pre-Cata my favorite starter zone/second zone combo is azuremyst/bloodmyst by a ridiculously huge margin.

Troll starting zone post-Cata is a heavy contender though.

If you all haven't leveled through the new (old) zones post-cata, do it. They're almost all freakin' amazing.

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red13n
07/01/11 2:38:00 PM
#32:


Disagree

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Pirateking2000
07/01/11 2:43:00 PM
#33:


oh yeah. Agree

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Revenus
07/01/11 2:53:00 PM
#34:


disagree, its a lot easier to bot in kalimdor

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paerarru
07/01/11 8:23:00 PM
#35:


You do bring up two good points that I have to admit. One is that the Human (and also Forsaken) storylines are pretty well developed. This is no coincidence, after all both have been main foci of the franchise's story, more so than some other races. The other is that EK do trump Kalimdor in the endgame department.
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