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Emeraldegg
08/09/23 12:34:20 PM
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The HoF game was last week I think so we're getting close! I'd like to start this topic off with a question: What does everyone think about the current running back situation? Do you think it's something that needs to be fixed or will sort itself over time?

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SHINE_GET_64
08/09/23 12:35:28 PM
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Looking forward to Lionz dunking on Giants on Friday

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Leonhart4
08/09/23 12:39:29 PM
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The RB situation has already kinda sorted itself out, just not in a way that's beneficial for the actual running backs. I don't really know what they can do to improve their standing, at least in the short-term, since the current CBA lasts another 7 years.

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LiquidOshawott
08/09/23 12:42:24 PM
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I think they will be more rotation based like pitchers, except make quite a bit less

possible that they develop into hybrid types like Deebo and thats the way of the future

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Emeraldegg
08/09/23 12:42:26 PM
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Yeah I guess that was more my question, do you think this is something that needs to be artifically fixed to help running backs or is it "well if they're not valuable then tough"

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Leonhart4
08/09/23 12:45:53 PM
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Emeraldegg posted...
Yeah I guess that was more my question, do you think this is something that needs to be artifically fixed to help running backs or is it "well if they're not valuable then tough"

I've heard people pitch stuff like "give them shorter rookie deals" or "let them come out of college sooner," but those things would have to be collectively bargained and I don't see the owners going for it since it's just going to cost them money. I'm not sure the NFLPA wants to make exceptions for one position either.

But honestly, there are maybe 10 RBs who are real difference makers and the others are basically interchangeable, so they're kinda stuck.

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WarThaNemesis2
08/09/23 12:53:42 PM
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Emeraldegg posted...
Yeah I guess that was more my question, do you think this is something that needs to be artifically fixed to help running backs or is it "well if they're not valuable then tough"

The way to fix the running back situation is to make it so if you're an offensive player touching the football past the line of scrimmage you're free to get clobbered.

It's not necessarily the right solution, but as long as QBs and receivers are 'running backs, but with career-extending protections', RBs will get screwed over.

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Leonhart4
08/09/23 1:03:01 PM
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What's really ruined the position's value is the passing game emerging to become the dominant part of the offense. You're going to have to learn to become a Marshall Faulk type if you want to be really valued.

Also the fact that defenders are bigger, faster, and stronger than ever means those hits on RBs add up a lot quicker than they used to.

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WarThaNemesis2
08/09/23 1:08:03 PM
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Leonhart4 posted...
What's really ruined the position's value is the passing game emerging to become the dominant part of the offense. You're going to have to learn to become a Marshall Faulk if you want to be really valued.

Also the fact that defenders are bigger, faster, and stronger than ever means those hits on RBs add up a lot quicker than they used to.

Yeah, and part of why that has happened is QBs can throw into tiny windows with no threat of ruining their receivers' season, and run with minimal danger of even being hit.

Take out even half of the running QBs and make those big, fast, strong defenders able to take shots at receivers and running backs will become more valuable quickly.

Again, it's probably not the right solution (the right one involves getting the owners to spend more money but lmao that isn't happening).

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Leonhart4
08/09/23 1:20:01 PM
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Yeah, the real solution involves them getting paid for the beating they take. RBs are the only position in any sport that can have a great season and it actually diminishes their value because of the "wear and tear" they take.

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Mewtwo59
08/09/23 1:51:41 PM
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I'm not sure it's an owner spending money issue, other than a general thing. The cap could be $1 billion, but it doesn't matter since owners would rather spend the money on other positions. RBs just aren't as valued in today's game and aren't going to get the percentage of the cap they got 15 years ago.

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junk_funk
08/09/23 2:30:42 PM
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I think RBs should try to lobby for higher dollar short term (2-3 year) contracts and forget trying to get 4-5 year deals that compete with other positions incomes. Maybe try to be the best paid short term position. They lose a little job security, but

Idk, tough.

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_PandaMaster_
08/09/23 5:39:05 PM
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Bryce Bryce Baby

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Leonhart4
08/09/23 6:45:00 PM
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Henry Ruggs was sentenced to 3-10 years of prison for his DUI that resulted in a fatality

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neonreaper
08/09/23 9:11:45 PM
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Leonhart4 posted...
Yeah, the real solution involves them getting paid for the beating they take. RBs are the only position in any sport that can have a great season and it actually diminishes their value because of the "wear and tear" they take.

I would be fine with something creative like RBs getting incentives that dont count against the cap. They would probably have to bargain for that sort of thing.

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Leonhart4
08/09/23 9:29:34 PM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
If he was sober would he have gotten jail time?

If he killed someone sober while driving recklessly? Not sure how that's better, so probably.

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SHINE_GET_64
08/11/23 7:42:54 AM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/7/9/AAB6RfAAEvjz.jpg

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SHINE_GET_64
08/12/23 9:59:01 AM
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SHINE_GET_64 posted...
Looking forward to Lionz dunking on Giants on Friday
Hey we did it the defense looked good enough to keep us in the game even when the offense was shooting itself in the foot the entire first half. Nate Sudfield's gotta go, looking forward to Bridgewater QBing the rest of the preseason

https://twitter.com/AlexWilsonESM/status/1690155840370593792

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_PandaMaster_
08/12/23 4:08:58 PM
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_PandaMaster_ posted...
Bryce Bryce Baby


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Leonhart4
08/12/23 5:59:53 PM
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I know it's only preseason but Malik Willis actually looked like an NFL QB today

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wallmasterz
08/12/23 8:12:05 PM
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https://x.com/jaguars/status/1690513243528142848?s=46

Thats my QB! Excuse me, I mean thats my other QB.

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KommunistKoala
08/12/23 8:30:54 PM
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since the tweet just said Nathan I thought it was Nathan Peterman at first and I was stunned

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plasmabeam
08/12/23 8:52:09 PM
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wallmasterz posted...
https://x.com/jaguars/status/1690513243528142848?s=46

Thats my QB! Excuse me, I mean thats my other QB.

I watched this live and thought it was Eli against the '07 Pats for a second.

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BlueCrystalTear
08/14/23 2:05:55 PM
#26:


Oher blindsides the Tuohys with a lawsuit after he was blindsided that they never formally adopted him
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38190720/blind-side-subject-michael-oher-alleges-adoption-was-lie-family-took-all-film-proceeds

I've heard that Leigh-Anne Tuohy is "a total Karen" from an online friend who once assisted her with her phone, so... it doesn't surprise me. I do plan to watch that movie off THE LIST but this will certainly color my perceptions of it. I don't recall Oher as being portrayed as unintelligent, rather as a good student who was academically disadvantaged. Being behind doesn't mean you're dumb!

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HanOfTheNekos
08/14/23 2:51:24 PM
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wallmasterz posted...
https://x.com/jaguars/status/1690513243528142848?s=46

Thats my QB! Excuse me, I mean thats my other QB.

That WAS my QB! Ohio Bobcats represent!

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FFDragon
08/14/23 3:00:01 PM
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it is absolutely pointless but I find myself oddly attached to the ravens preseason streak

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_PandaMaster_
08/14/23 5:08:44 PM
#29:


Zeke to NE.

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neonreaper
08/14/23 5:27:53 PM
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Zeeeeke

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Maniac64
08/14/23 5:31:17 PM
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BlueCrystalTear posted...
Oher blindsides the Tuohys with a lawsuit after he was blindsided that they never formally adopted him
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38190720/blind-side-subject-michael-oher-alleges-adoption-was-lie-family-took-all-film-proceeds

I've heard that Leigh-Anne Tuohy is "a total Karen" from an online friend who once assisted her with her phone, so... it doesn't surprise me. I do plan to watch that movie off THE LIST but this will certainly color my perceptions of it. I don't recall Oher as being portrayed as unintelligent, rather as a good student who was academically disadvantaged. Being behind doesn't mean you're dumb!
That is so fucked up

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Leonhart4
08/14/23 11:21:50 PM
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Dalvin Cook expected to sign with the Jets

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_PandaMaster_
08/14/23 11:45:21 PM
#33:


New York Dream Team

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Thorn
08/15/23 8:44:53 AM
#34:


they'll wake up from that dream when they realize they have no one blocking for them

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SHINE_GET_64
08/15/23 9:59:28 AM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/7/2/AAB6RfAAEwRA.jpg

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Leonhart4
08/15/23 4:15:22 PM
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The Colts named Anthony Richardson the Week 1 starter

They're really doing this huh

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_PandaMaster_
08/17/23 11:01:14 AM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/8/2/AADUYLAAEwMe.jpg


Is this an elite offense?

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SHINE_GET_64
08/17/23 11:06:15 AM
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https://twitter.com/BradGalli/status/1692166578979102981

oops

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Leonhart4
08/18/23 2:26:11 PM
#39:


Clowney continues his quest to play for every NFL team, this year with the Ravens

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Aecioo
08/18/23 3:10:50 PM
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_PandaMaster_ posted...
Is this an elite offense?

Yeah if you ignore our offensive line which that pic clearly did

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Mewtwo59
08/18/23 3:22:25 PM
#41:


Leonhart4 posted...
Clowney continues his quest to play for every NFL team, this year with the Ravens

He's only at 5. Josh Johnson looks at that and says those are rookie numbers.

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_PandaMaster_
08/18/23 4:14:07 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/5/4/AAD3L9AAEwxi.jpg

?

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Aecioo
08/18/23 4:28:07 PM
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_PandaMaster_ posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/5/4/AAD3L9AAEwxi.jpg

?

Aww yeah having a bunch of people who have never even played a game together, a tight end, and Jared Goff


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Mewtwo59
08/18/23 4:30:37 PM
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If Mahomes and Kelce count, then Lamar and Andrews should count.

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Ashethan
08/18/23 4:37:36 PM
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Mahomes/Kelce not at #1 is basically a "Look at me!" pick. Immediately grabs outrage.

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Leonhart4
08/18/23 4:39:58 PM
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Ashethan posted...
Mahomes/Kelce not at #1 is basically a "Look at me!" pick. Immediately grabs outrage.

Welcome to every Colin Cowherd take

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Ashethan
08/18/23 5:08:51 PM
#47:


Leonhart4 posted...
Welcome to every Colin Cowherd take

I mean it's not just him. It's practically every major sports commentator. Gotta throw in something for spice, or nobody will talk about it. It's all about the clicks these days.

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LeonhartFour
08/18/23 10:31:10 PM
#48:


Cowherd in particular has refined the art of the take

he doesn't care how horribly wrong he turns out to be, he'll act like he never made that take and proceed to take the opposite one

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SHINE_GET_64
08/18/23 10:42:31 PM
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https://youtu.be/NOLa1hJf6cw?si=elGpoZU1jTiGUpBK

I literally cried

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MZero
08/18/23 11:13:41 PM
#50:


LeonhartFour posted...
Cowherd in particular has refined the art of the take

he doesn't care how horribly wrong he turns out to be, he'll act like he never made that take and proceed to take the opposite one

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/4/7/AAN-f8AAEw6z.jpg

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