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MrMelodramatic
07/29/23 12:42:25 PM
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I like a lot of his stances on the issues. Except, you know, the ones that deny science and could get tons of people (especially kids) killed.

title should say wasn�t *

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Compsognathus
07/29/23 12:44:00 PM
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Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?

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K181
07/29/23 12:44:35 PM
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If this idiot wasn't dumb, he would be smart.

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DarthAragorn
07/29/23 12:46:43 PM
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Well that and the Nazi signaling

https://twitter.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/1684909385376575488

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DrizztLink
07/29/23 12:47:20 PM
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Also the white supremacy, that's a bit of a sticky wicket.

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MrMelodramatic
07/29/23 12:49:21 PM
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Compsognathus posted...
Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?
Pretty good tbh

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Social, domestic, economic

DarthAragorn posted...
Well that and the Nazi signaling

i dont see the nazi in this tweet


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Torgo
07/29/23 12:51:03 PM
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The guy has lost his mind.

Others have mentioned the antisemitism, but he's also cozying up to all the right wing bigots, misogynists, racists, and ghouls.

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FolkenRawr
07/29/23 12:51:31 PM
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Oh. Alright.

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Doe
07/29/23 12:51:55 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
Well that and the Nazi signaling
glad I wasn't the only one who noooticed the 1488

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MrMelodramatic
07/29/23 1:00:56 PM
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Heres some stuff from his campaign website I like

We are going to remake public institutions to serve the public. We will roll back the secrecy and make government transparent. We will protect whistleblowers and prosecute officials who abuse the public trust. We will rein in the lobbyists and slam shut the revolving door that shunts people from government agencies to lucrative positions in the companies they were supposed to regulate, and back again. We will get money out of politics. We will open our institutions to real citizen involvement

Our administration will take racial healing seriously through a program of Targeted Community Repair. Our operating principle is not guilt for the sins of ones ancestors, but rather compassion. We will invoke the authentic desire in all Americans, white and black, liberal and conservative, to improve the condition of our Black and Native brothers and sisters.

Our soils are depleted, the weather is wacky, trees are dying, and the water in many places is toxic. Chronic disease is at an all-time high. Were going to address these problems at their root causes. First, we will shift agricultural subsidies so as to encourage regenerative practices. Today, a new generation of farmers and ranchers is building soil, replenishing groundwater, and detoxifying land, all while producing just as much food as conventional farmers and earning a decent livelihood. Secondly, we will incentivize the transition of industry to zero-waste cycles and clean energy sources, and forge agreements with other countries to implement these policies throughout the global supply chain. These first two policies will vastly reduce the toxic waste, industrial poisons, and pesticides that make people and ecosystems sick. Finally, we will protect wild lands from further development, by curbing mining, logging, oil drilling, and suburban sprawl. We will become a global advocate for rainforest preservation and marine restoration. We will rethink development policies that promised economic growth while ignoring ecological sustainability, and ended up delivering neither.

Government assistance to the nations most vulnerable is a high priority, but even more important is to reverse the policies that have led to such poverty in the first place. We will rebuild the industrial infrastructure, ruined by forty years of off-shoring and misguided free trade schemes. We will enact policies that favor small and medium businesses, which are the nations real job creators and the dynamos of American enterprise. We will support labor in reclaiming its fair share of American prosperity. We will break up too-big-to-fail banks and monopolies, and when crisis strikes, bail out the homeowners, debtors, and small business owners instead.

It is time to end the imperial project and attend to all that has been neglected: the crumbling cities, the antiquated railways, the failing water systems, the decaying infrastructure, the ailing economy. Annual defense-related spending is close to one trillion dollars. We maintain 800 military bases around the world. The peace dividend that was supposed to come after the Berlin Wall fell was never redeemed. Now we have another chance We will bring the troops home. We will stop racking up unpayable debt to fight one war after another. The military will return to its proper role of defending our country. We will end the proxy wars, bombing campaigns, covert operations, coups, paramilitaries, and everything else that has become so normal most people dont know its happening. When a warlike imperial nation disarms of its own accord, it sets a template for peace everywhere. It is not too late for us to voluntarily let go of empire and serve peace instead, as a strong and healthy nation.

We will end the failed War on Drugs and grant amnesty to nonviolent drug offenders. We will shut the school-to-prison pipeline, and transition prisons away from a punishment paradigm to a rehabilitation paradigm. Prisons will be an intervention in a life gone wrong, and a way to prevent offenders from harming others again. Instead of defunding the police, we will transform the police. We will incentivize them to prevent violence, not make unnecessary arrests. We will train them in deescalation and mediation skills and partner them with neighborhood organizations. No longer will their relationship to the public be adversarial

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DrizztLink
07/29/23 1:03:43 PM
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MrMelodramatic posted...
Heres some stuff from his campaign website I like

A bunch of irrelevant platitudes and outright lies because he's a goddamn Neo Nazi.

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AloneIBreak
07/29/23 1:06:00 PM
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Candidate websites are just fluff put together by the PR team.

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MrMelodramatic
07/29/23 1:07:05 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
Also the white supremacy, that's a bit of a sticky wicket.
This isnt something Ive heard about. Can you share more?

Torgo posted...
The guy has lost his mind.

Others have mentioned the antisemitism, but he's also cozying up to all the right wing bigots, misogynists, racists, and ghouls.
Same as above. Im not saying I dont believe it - Im admittedly not following RFK super close. I just like some of the the stuff I read about his policy priorities.

Doe posted...
glad I wasn't the only one who noooticed the 1488
I guess Im not familiar with the significance. Explain ?


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UnholyMudcrab
07/29/23 1:08:49 PM
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I think it's a bad thing to shill for bad candidates

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MrMelodramatic
07/29/23 1:08:55 PM
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FWIW, Im not voting rfk. DeSantis in the primary, Biden in the general. Thats my strat

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itcheyness
07/29/23 1:11:16 PM
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MrMelodramatic posted...
I guess Im not familiar with the significance. Explain ?
https://www.adl.org/resources/hate-symbol/1488

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Shadow_Don
07/29/23 1:12:18 PM
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MrMelodramatic posted...
I guess Im not familiar with the significance. Explain ?

1488 is one of the more well known cryptic nazi messages. Just Google it.


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__aCEr__
07/29/23 1:15:22 PM
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Does his antisemitism regarding Covid get lumped into his "kookiness" about vaccines?

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Torgo
07/29/23 1:15:30 PM
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MrMelodramatic posted...
Same as above. Im not saying I dont believe it - Im admittedly not following RFK super close. I just like some of the the stuff I read about his policy priorities.

I'm not fooled.

The right wing are trying to promote this guy as a moderate to libs and centrists, while his insane views on vaccines and antisemitic conspiracies appeal to the far right.

He used to be pretty good when his primary focus was on environmental law, but even now he's cozying up to climate change deniers like Jordan Peterson to again appeal to the far right while claiming to be a moderate democrat.

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Torgo
07/29/23 1:17:04 PM
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__aCEr__ posted...
Does his antisemitism regarding Covid get lumped into his "kookiness" about vaccines?

The thing is, it's just flat out observably wrong.

Israel and China were both hid hard with Covid, even with some of the stricter lock-downs. Chinese people were dying in droves and we may never even get the REAL number of deaths... but we can be assured it's even higher than what the Chinese government claims.

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MrMelodramatic
07/29/23 1:30:25 PM
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itcheyness posted...
https://www.adl.org/resources/hate-symbol/1488
Interesting. If hes really doing some neonazi signaling in that tweet (I guess thats like a very small chance its coincidence), thats plainly not good. Ill make sure to keep on eye on this kind of covert signaling.

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

you voting 3rd party?

__aCEr__ posted...
Does his antisemitism regarding Covid get lumped into his "kookiness" about vaccines?
Yknow, up until this topic, I wasnt aware he was doing some racist nazigrade bs. I did know he was a conspiracy nut about some big government schemes, which is enough of a red flag to not vote for him imo. I do still like a lot of his policies, especially environmentally and regarding domestic infrastructure. not enough to undo his batshit ideas. Why cant we just have good candidates, yfeel?

Torgo posted...
I'm not fooled.

The right wing are trying to promote this guy as a moderate to libs and centrists, while his insane views on vaccines and antisemitic conspiracies appeal to the far right.

on this, Im with you 100%. Theres no way in hell he wins, but the fact hes polling in the double-digits despite some very obvious red flags (including new-to-me red flags about white supremacy) screams to me that the right is trying very hard to push him as an alt to Joe that they can get more centrist (read: radical, completely regressive, destructive) policy through.

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DrizztLink
07/29/23 4:18:17 PM
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MrMelodramatic posted...
(I guess thats like a very small chance its coincidence)
He made the request on the 23rd.

Ergo, it hasn't been anything close to 88 days.

There was literally no other reasons n to include it.

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CoyoteTheGreat
07/29/23 4:21:33 PM
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All people in that fucking inbred American nobility family suck. Under no circumstances should any of them ever be promoted. Fuck all political families.

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billcom6
07/29/23 4:23:05 PM
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Yeah if you take away all the stuff he is wrong about he is great /s

https://twitter.com/HotSpotHotSpot/status/1684928419799183360


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Anteaterking
07/29/23 6:31:20 PM
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MrMelodramatic posted...
including new-to-me red flags

Maybe you should do some self-reflection on the fact that you so easily got the wool pulled over your eyes from vague platitudes about transparency that you missed all the red flags.

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MrMelodramatic
07/29/23 6:38:29 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
Maybe you should do some self-reflection on the fact that you so easily got the wool pulled over your eyes from vague platitudes about transparency that you missed all the red flags.
Nah. I was never going to vote for him, and was never tricked by him or whatever lol. I still think the policies are pretty good, and would vote for someone else who had them. Being a bad person doesnt make the policy priorities bad. I also already thought he was kind of a shitty dude, now I just have more reasons to think so.

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UnholyMudcrab
07/29/23 6:59:56 PM
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MrMelodramatic posted...
I still think the policies are pretty good, and would vote for someone else who had them.
Without bothering to check if they were also an antivax Nazi, I presume.

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MrMelodramatic
07/29/23 7:08:02 PM
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doubtful but w/e

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name_unknown
07/29/23 7:25:08 PM
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Yes vote for the fascist in the primary.
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Kradek
07/29/23 7:26:47 PM
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He doesn't only suck on vaccines, he's also a huge Putin penis holster.

I get that this guy was at one point of his life very positive and fighting for the right side of issues, however he's no longer that person.

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Southernfatman
07/29/23 7:27:49 PM
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"Goddamn Kennedys...If theres one person youd cant trust in this life, its millionaires kids."

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MrMelodramatic
07/29/23 7:51:16 PM
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name_unknown posted...
Yes vote for the fascist in the primary. Tc wants to vote for the person saying slavery was good.
What are you talking about lol. Primary Voting for the Republican candidate likely to lose to the incumbent Democrat is a basic af strategy.

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doshindude
07/29/23 7:52:48 PM
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If it weren't for literally everything about him being terrible he'd be great yah

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CoyoteTheGreat
07/29/23 9:39:19 PM
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Kradek posted...
He doesn't only suck on vaccines, he's also a huge Putin penis holster.

I get that this guy was at one point of his life very positive and fighting for the right side of issues, however he's no longer that person.

A lot of people do the right thing only because they want attention and accolades. The fastest way to get both of those things though is to engage in right-wing nutjobbery, as you'll instantly have a worshipful fanbase and all the attention you could want.

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Kradek
07/30/23 9:54:33 PM
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CoyoteTheGreat posted...
A lot of people do the right thing only because they want attention and accolades. The fastest way to get both of those things though is to engage in right-wing nutjobbery, as you'll instantly have a worshipful fanbase and all the attention you could want.

I'm not sure what you're talking about. RFK Jr.'s positive history on the environment was not to become famous among the right-wingers, I'm pretty sure. His anti-vaccine propaganda led to a spread of measles in Samoa in 2019, so perhaps by then he was starting to work towards right-wing support. I'm not really sure why it started, however the 2 earliest voices to vouch support for him was Carlson and Bannon, so anybody with a decent head on their shoulders would definitely take that as a sign that they're doing some objectively evil shit. And as his candidacy has progressed, we see that's the case.

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