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BignutzisBack 07/04/23 3:52:57 PM #1: |
For home defense? --- http://i.imgur.com/plA0Vg9.gif https://media.giphy.com/media/dgK22exekwOLm/giphy.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solid_Sonic 07/04/23 3:53:34 PM #2: |
Pics? Caliber? --- Surely if I stick up for rich people on the Internet I'll eventually get a sweet job offer from them, right? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Carljank 07/04/23 3:55:24 PM #3: |
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9715182/ Abstract Objective: Determine the relative frequency with which guns in the home are used to injure or kill in self-defense, compared with the number of times these weapons are involved in an unintentional injury, suicide attempt, or criminal assault or homicide. Methods: We reviewed the police, medical examiner, emergency medical service, emergency department, and hospital records of all fatal and nonfatal shootings in three U.S. cities: Memphis, Tennessee; Seattle, Washington; and Galveston, Texas. Results: During the study interval (12 months in Memphis, 18 months in Seattle, and Galveston) 626 shootings occurred in or around a residence. This total included 54 unintentional shootings, 118 attempted or completed suicides, and 438 assaults/homicides. Thirteen shootings were legally justifiable or an act of self-defense, including three that involved law enforcement officers acting in the line of duty. For every time a gun in the home was used in a self-defense or legally justifiable shooting, there were four unintentional shootings, seven criminal assaults or homicides, and 11 attempted or completed suicides. Conclusions: Guns kept in homes are more likely to be involved in a fatal or nonfatal accidental shooting, criminal assault, or suicide attempt than to be used to injure or kill in self-defense. --- Sorry if my posts make you feel emotional. It is not my intent. Make America Nazi-Free Again. #NoMoreNazis #Wolf2 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BignutzisBack 07/04/23 3:59:34 PM #4: |
Solid_Sonic posted... Pics? Caliber? 9mm https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/9/1/AAWkzsAAEoPP.jpg Edit: not sure what happened to the picture quality there but it is a Scorpion 3+ --- http://i.imgur.com/plA0Vg9.gif https://media.giphy.com/media/dgK22exekwOLm/giphy.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Prismsblade 07/04/23 4:00:46 PM #5: |
That'd Likely be overkill tbh. --- 3DS FC:3368-5403-9633 Name: Kaizer PSN: Blackkaizer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Paragon21XX 07/04/23 4:01:06 PM #6: |
Carljank posted... https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9715182/ --- Politicians are the weeds of the galaxy. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Malcrasternus 07/04/23 4:01:50 PM #7: |
You should, but swap out the safety levers for some Magpul versions. --- 4/15/1951 - 3/18/2014 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BignutzisBack 07/04/23 4:01:56 PM #8: |
Prismsblade posted... That'd Likely be overkill tbh. You think so? That's actually why I was gravitating towards it because I thought an AR-15 was overkill lol. --- http://i.imgur.com/plA0Vg9.gif https://media.giphy.com/media/dgK22exekwOLm/giphy.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChrisTaka 07/04/23 4:06:02 PM #9: |
You'll never need more than a pistol/handgun for home defense unless you honestly think that someone is trying to rob your house in full body armor lmao --- ChrisTaka's not-alt ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Carljank 07/04/23 4:10:06 PM #10: |
Paragon21XX posted... Don't let facts get in the way of your Rambo fantasies. --- Sorry if my posts make you feel emotional. It is not my intent. Make America Nazi-Free Again. #NoMoreNazis #Wolf2 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AloneIBreak 07/04/23 4:11:18 PM #11: |
Wouldnt you want something smaller and more maneuverable in a pinch? --- "Never confuse education with intelligence, you can have a PhD and still be an idiot." -Richard Feynman ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BignutzisBack 07/04/23 4:40:29 PM #12: |
ChrisTaka posted... You'll never need more than a pistol/handgun for home defense unless you honestly think that someone is trying to rob your house in full body armor lmao It's a pistol carbine though, it shoots the same exact ammo as a pistol just with the ability to aim better AloneIBreak posted... Wouldnt you want something smaller and more maneuverable in a pinch? I have a 9 mm pistol but it's one of those micro guns so it snaps like crazy, more of a carry gun --- http://i.imgur.com/plA0Vg9.gif https://media.giphy.com/media/dgK22exekwOLm/giphy.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ALIEN_WORK2HOP 07/04/23 4:44:20 PM #13: |
dunno, I always felt that the chance of stupid shit happening with a gun was always higher than it ever being of any use. do you live in a ghetto or something? --- If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're going to get selfish, ignorant leaders. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BignutzisBack 07/04/23 4:51:27 PM #14: |
ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted... dunno, I always felt that the chance of stupid shit happening with a gun was always higher than it ever being of any use. I wouldn't say incredibly dangerous but definitely a seedy apartment complex. I actually didn't own a gun the first 37 years of my life, and could count on one hand how many times I had ever shot one. Then I got a mentally unstable neighbor who was threatening me and trying to kick in my door multiple times, and he already had a pending felony charge for threatening to kill police officers. That kind of caused me to reevaluate everything and I immediately went out and bought my first firearm. --- http://i.imgur.com/plA0Vg9.gif https://media.giphy.com/media/dgK22exekwOLm/giphy.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Malcrasternus 07/04/23 4:53:03 PM #15: |
BignutzisBack posted...
I have a 43x for carry, and a full-sized Glock 17 for the home for the same reason. Soaks up recoil like a champ. --- 4/15/1951 - 3/18/2014 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AI_TechGam3FAQS 07/04/23 4:53:17 PM #16: |
Yes! --- Most recent Platinum: Atelier Ryza 3 Now Playing: Nelke & the Legendary Alchemists / Diablo 4 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GeraldDarko 07/04/23 4:59:33 PM #17: |
Tacticool fantasy --- Carpe petat ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TonyKojima 07/04/23 5:03:34 PM #18: |
I have a Ruger SR45. Plenty for home defense. --- Though the XBOX 360 is good in theory, it's hardware limitations say otherwise - Hideo Kojima ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BignutzisBack 07/05/23 7:52:06 PM #19: |
Bump --- http://i.imgur.com/plA0Vg9.gif https://media.giphy.com/media/dgK22exekwOLm/giphy.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FlyEaglesFly24 07/05/23 8:24:34 PM #20: |
If you want to contribute to an industry that enables 8 out of every 10 murderers in this country by allowing them easy access to the weapon, then by all means..dont. Im just saying, if you want to participate in an insanity that results in over 300 people being shot every day, then I have to wonder why you think for a second that youd want to. I mean really, if you want to double the chances of you being shot, and increasing the likelyhood that your spouse or partner will be shot (according to time magazine) then I have to recommend you to a therapist, seeing as Id prefer to live in a world where neither one of us needs to worry about that possibility. The proliferation of weapons makes the world more dangerous. History and countless hours of research have already proven this. If you live in a shady apartment, save your money and move. --- My resolution - the next time the Eagles are in the Superbowl, I'm going! February 10th, 2023 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Priere 07/05/23 8:29:30 PM #21: |
Looks pretty cool for a PCC, but I would personally prefer a full size "service" pistol for home defense. My gold standard is still the VP9 --- https://imgur.com/iQep35u https://i.imgur.com/PmX8smn.gif https://i.imgur.com/mwTy0iF.gif https://i.imgur.com/FCER80e.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BuzzKilljoy 07/05/23 8:41:28 PM #22: |
Scorpion's a pretty fun gun to shoot, could be a decent home defense gun with the right setup. I have an SBR'd pistol with the carbine handguard and suppressor like the one pictured here and I really like it. Some people who run Glock pistols prefer an AR receiver that can run on Glock mags. --- Does the name Pavlov ring a bell? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Thud 07/05/23 8:42:09 PM #23: |
Carljank posted... https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9715182/ Lmao, this guy BignutzisBack posted... 9mm I'm not a fan of rifles for HD, even a PCC. Close quarters you want a handgun or even a shorty shotgun --- Happy birthday to the GROUND! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GranTurismo 07/05/23 8:47:28 PM #24: |
an ar-9? does that look like an ar-15? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Junior_AIN 07/05/23 8:50:01 PM #25: |
Always. --- + | + https://marcoagj.wordpress.com/ + | + | | | | https://supermariomakerbookmark.nintendo.net/profile/Marco_AGJ | | | | ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark_Spiret 07/05/23 9:03:53 PM #26: |
i mean, if you want to? though if your going the 9mm route might as well just use a pistol. better for closed in areas. GranTurismo posted... an ar-9? does that look like an ar-15?its an AR platform chambered in 9mm. or also called a pistol caliber carbine. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RuneterranSnap 07/05/23 9:04:33 PM #27: |
It's really sad that you're able to. --- Joyrock/DSFlashlight/OctilIery ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GranTurismo 07/05/23 9:09:52 PM #28: |
Dark_Spiret posted... i mean, if you want to? though if your going the 9mm route might as well just use a pistol. better for closed in areas.how much do these, run? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BignutzisBack 07/05/23 10:14:33 PM #29: |
GranTurismo posted... how much do these, run? I just bought the one pictured for $870 post tax including insured shipping. The shorter version is $999 --- http://i.imgur.com/plA0Vg9.gif https://media.giphy.com/media/dgK22exekwOLm/giphy.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Noname12 07/05/23 10:18:33 PM #30: |
Yes. You dont ever want to be that .00001 chance it happens to you. Especially with the trend of all these armed gang young adults breaking into homes and cars. We just had a news story where 4 presumably teenagers with guns burglarized a guys home in broad daylight. They broke his window and just ran in. He saw it through his cameras and waited at the top of his stairs. Once they stormed he shot the first guy and killed him. --- Darkprince45 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Carljank 07/06/23 11:08:47 AM #31: |
Thud posted... Lmao, this guyWhen you find facts to be personally insulting don't you start to wonder if your side is just wrong? --- Sorry if my posts make you feel emotional. It is not my intent. Make America Nazi-Free Again. #NoMoreNazis #Wolf2 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anarchy_Juiblex 07/06/23 11:14:25 AM #32: |
No, if you're getting an AR platform just get 556 or 223. If you want a carbine, get one that has interchangable magazines with a pistol. For example Rugers 57 platform. Good carry piece, excellent home defense rifle. --- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man#Steelmanning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_charity ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrResetti 07/06/23 11:16:13 AM #33: |
Bait topic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giant_Aspirin 07/06/23 11:17:37 AM #34: |
if you're actually interested in "home defense" and not LARPing as a soldier, get a shotgun. it'll stop anyone and you basically can't miss. --- I hope something good happens to you today Playing: Octopath Traveler 2 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jagr_68 07/06/23 11:18:10 AM #35: |
No that's for pussies. Stinger or gtfo --- New York Rangers [2004-2008] https://media.giphy.com/media/WvQHBYW0q4TuxdAg61/giphy.gif https://psnprofiles.com/Jaromiroquai68 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anarchy_Juiblex 07/06/23 11:19:29 AM #36: |
Giant_Aspirin posted... if you're actually interested in "home defense" and not LARPing as a soldier, get a shotgun. No. --- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man#Steelmanning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_charity ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Murphiroth 07/06/23 11:21:47 AM #37: |
Genuinely hilarious how upset the gun worshippers are about someone just posting actual facts ITT. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giant_Aspirin 07/06/23 11:22:29 AM #38: |
Anarchy_Juiblex posted... No. explain? i've read / heard that advice so many times from people experienced with boom boom sticks. --- I hope something good happens to you today Playing: Octopath Traveler 2 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bishop_Hastur 07/06/23 11:26:41 AM #39: |
Why not a shotgun? --- Have you seen the Yellow Sign? Quando omni flunkus moritati ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wanderingshade 07/06/23 11:28:01 AM #40: |
I figure you would want something that wouldn't tear through your own drywall. --- "You're made of spare parts, aren't ya, bud?" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anarchy_Juiblex 07/06/23 11:29:11 AM #41: |
Giant_Aspirin posted... explain? i've read / heard that advice so many times from people experienced with boom boom sticks. Shotguns generally have less rounds you can carry. Most aren't semiautomatic and most of the semis are 26in+ duck guns. They're loud as fuck and bright and can't be suppressed. So follow up shots are going to be more difficult. They have more recoil, again a problem for follow up shots and flinching (can be worked through) They don't even have as much spread as you'd imagine in typical household ranges. They have less barrier/armor defeating capabilities (kind of a larpy reason but it's still valid.) A high capacity, easily controllable rifle is going to be your best friend in close quarter home defense. --- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man#Steelmanning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_charity ... Copied to Clipboard!
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rynobot 07/06/23 11:31:52 AM #42: |
You should get a psychological examination if you really think you need a gun. --- GT: rynobot ... Copied to Clipboard!
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texanfan27 07/06/23 11:42:51 AM #44: |
Murphiroth posted... Genuinely hilarious how upset the gun worshippers are about someone just posting actual facts ITT. The problem I have with those facts is simple. It proves almost nothing, of course owning a gun means you are more likely to have an injury from it, but that applies to anything you own. Car, water heater, kitchen knife, you could swap any of those in for firearm, and it have the same effect. The data doesnt really prove anything outside if you have this item, you have higher chance of injury. There is better data to use, use children that found parents gun resulting injury, these have an actual cause and that is lack of training and safety measures. It shows not everyone should own a gun. --- I'm a ? Block. No, punching me won't give you power ups. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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rynobot 07/06/23 11:44:09 AM #45: |
Lack of safety and safety measures? Best one is no gun. --- GT: rynobot ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BignutzisBack 07/06/23 12:22:49 PM #46: |
rynobot posted... You should get a psychological examination if you really think you need a gun. --- http://i.imgur.com/plA0Vg9.gif https://media.giphy.com/media/dgK22exekwOLm/giphy.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Thud 07/06/23 12:44:55 PM #47: |
Carljank posted... When you find facts to be personally insulting don't you start to wonder if your side is just wrong? Not sure where you're getting that I'm "personally insulted". I just saw a clown performing and did the polite thing by laughing at their antics --- Happy birthday to the GROUND! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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chaos_knight 07/06/23 12:48:00 PM #48: |
Not great for home defense but they are neat to have. And America isn't ever going to do shit about guns anyway so go wild. I've handled that, an AK-47, and an SKS. As long as it isn't automatic, all perfectly legal. --- Seattle Seahawks Super Bowl XLVIII Champions ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AP3Brain 07/06/23 12:48:36 PM #49: |
No. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Carljank 07/06/23 12:51:30 PM #50: |
Thud posted... Not sure where you're getting that I'm "personally insulted". I just saw a clown performing and did the polite thing by laughing at their anticsAgain now you are insulting me personally because I posted peer reviewed study of facts so yeah I'd say I hurt you personally if you are emotional enough to throw insults over facts. --- Sorry if my posts make you feel emotional. It is not my intent. Make America Nazi-Free Again. #NoMoreNazis #Wolf2 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pauIie 07/06/23 12:53:19 PM #51: |
Thud posted... Lmao, this guy that's not an argument --- http://i.imgur.com/O5APL.jpg http://www.last.fm/user/jaeganja ... Copied to Clipboard!
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