Board 8 > Now I'm questioning if people who like hating on the sequel trilogy actually...

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LinkMarioSamus
08/10/22 4:21:48 PM
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...care about Star Wars. They take issue with Vice Admiral Holdo being a "toxic" leader because she doesn't just tell Poe her plan and short-circuit that whole subplot, as if the prequel trilogy beforehand wasn't sustained by similar misunderstandings and failures to communicate or notice the bloody obvious. Gee I wonder if Holdo being a woman with pink hair has anything to do with it.

I'm actually serious. I know there are good reasons to not like the ST but now I feel like the whole thing is a lie.

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GenesisSaga
08/10/22 4:23:40 PM
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Oh my God we've actually come full circle people. Wrap it up, it's over.

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changmas
08/10/22 4:31:31 PM
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I really can't imagine being so obsessed with what other people think about the same 3-5 pieces of media

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swirIdude
08/10/22 4:31:53 PM
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I feel like every one of your topics is a lie.

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BlueCrystalTear
08/10/22 4:32:41 PM
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Being offended is an art that many people partake in. Many toxic people feel a need to get their creative sides out by finding ways to openly dislike things or take offense to them, ways they feel are unique to them so they feel smarter than they truly are.

Succinctly, the best way to summarize reactions such as what people had to TLJ boils down to a simple "ppl r dum"

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Leonhart4
08/10/22 4:35:57 PM
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Well, let me ask you then

Do you actually care about Star Wars?

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LinkMarioSamus
08/10/22 4:44:59 PM
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Coming to care more about it after watching The Mandalorian.

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Leonhart4
08/10/22 4:52:09 PM
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Well, there you have it, you've answered your own question

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CassandraCain
08/10/22 4:52:38 PM
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Why did you make this topic, LMS? Give me a real, deep reason. Search inside yourself and figure out what it is within that pushes you to drone on and on about a movie that no one else cares to talk about anymore.

Maybe try this over on the star wars board instead, you'll get more interesting results at least.

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Lopen
08/10/22 4:52:41 PM
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GenesisSaga posted...
Oh my God we've actually come full circle people. Wrap it up, it's over.

The circle is now complete?

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pjbasis
08/10/22 4:54:34 PM
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I only dislike the sequel trilogy for disingenuous reasons.

But I haven't watched episode IX yet so that can still change

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LinkMarioSamus
08/10/22 5:07:22 PM
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CassandraCain posted...
Why did you make this topic, LMS? Give me a real, deep reason. Search inside yourself and figure out what it is within that pushes you to drone on and on about a movie that no one else cares to talk about anymore.

Maybe try this over on the star wars board instead, you'll get more interesting results at least.

Yeah I guess it's more me realizing just how stupid anti-progressives are. I already knew they didn't care about franchises like Terminator and the Marvel Cinematic Universe and were just looking for reasons to bitch and moan, but I assumed Star Wars fans vocally disgruntled with the ST had genuine concerns over their franchise. This along with the whole idea of putting Luke freaking Skywalker on a pedestal as a martyr for white male heroes made me realize only very recently how little a lot of these dunderheads actually care.

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colliding
08/10/22 5:25:03 PM
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i think it's fair to have legitimate concerns over the ST. it sucks for reasons far beyond whatever dumb identity politic complaints you traffic in

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Leonhart4
08/10/22 5:32:55 PM
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I'm pretty sure Halo's question is more along the lines of "why did you feel the need to tell us about it"

Considering your answer is the same stuff you've said for months now, so it's not like you're saying anything new

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SeabassDebeste
08/10/22 5:38:40 PM
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Lopen posted...


The circle is now complete?

when i last clicked on an alt-right youtube video i was but the watcher

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Mr_Lasastryke
08/10/22 5:41:32 PM
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colliding posted...
i think it's fair to have legitimate concerns over the ST. it sucks for reasons far beyond whatever dumb identity politic complaints you traffic in

rise of skywalker in particular is a bad movie.

it's actually rated lower on IMDb than attack of the clones (only by .1, but still), so this isn't exactly an unpopular opinion.

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most_games_r_ok
08/10/22 6:09:20 PM
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I don't care about or like SW so there

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colliding
08/10/22 8:19:30 PM
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TFA is, by design, a nostalgia-bait rehash meant to wipe the taste of the PT out of people's mouths. It accomplishes this well enough, but many of the scenes feel inconsequential as a result. Visually and aurally, it is fantastic and super fun, but it's paper thin and all set up.

TLJ is the best of the ST but the casino planet does not work and neither Finn nor Poe have interesting or satisfying character arcs.

ROS really has nothing going for it. TLJ deserves some of the "blame" for not setting it up well and them switching to JJ from Trevorrow doesn't help either. All SW movies are to some degree childish and nonsensical, but this film constantly jumps the shark in new and unfun ways.

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Uglyface2
08/10/22 8:28:38 PM
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I turn off my brain and eat popcorn when I watch Star Wars movies. The prequel trilogy bored me, but the sequel trilogy had enough stuff going to entertain me. I remember not liking Holdo, but the audience wasn't supposed to like her until she sacrificed herself. It was decent enough, and if the subject didn't come up every so often I probably wouldn't have thought about the sequels in years.
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BlueCrystalTear
08/10/22 8:49:30 PM
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colliding posted...
TFA is, by design, a nostalgia-bait rehash meant to wipe the taste of the PT out of people's mouths. It accomplishes this well enough, but many of the scenes feel inconsequential as a result. Visually and aurally, it is fantastic and super fun, but it's paper thin and all set up.

TLJ is the best of the ST but the casino planet does not work and neither Finn nor Poe have interesting or satisfying character arcs.

ROS really has nothing going for it. TLJ deserves some of the "blame" for not setting it up well and them switching to JJ from Trevorrow doesn't help either. All SW movies are to some degree childish and nonsensical, but this film constantly jumps the shark in new and unfun ways.
This is a pretty good summation. TFA is good for what it's going for, and Rey is at her best in that one, and it's just good, clean fun like Star Wars should be. It just is nothing special and doesn't do anything that the original trilogy didn't already.

TLJ took a risk and people hated it - and that's in part because it didn't fully pay dividends in all the ways that TFA had set up. The other part was that fans were toxic and hated on Rose for no reason, didn't like that the storytelling took a new approach, and... were just looking to be critical. I admire what Rian Johnson did here because he had the balls to try to make the ST into its own thing. AND it's fun to watch to boot, because... that's what really matters. Star Wars isn't about the story as much as it is the jolly swashbuckling with light sabers, the space battles, etc. This found a happy medium and I loved it for that.

ROS should've been a spectacle but Disney gave Abrams a hard deadline and the end result was a rushed, sloppy film that had too many parts that made little sense (i.e. the Sith obliterating Kijimi for no reason, and Zori somehow escaping with the funny little guy despite). Abrams has said that they should've given him another 3-4 months because he'd have produced a different film entirely with the footage he had.

Poe is a fine example of wasted potential. He was a pretty "whatever" character. Rey and Kylo Ben were both great additions but all the other new characters either failed to deliver upon their potential (Poe), felt awkward in the payoff (Finn), got purpled (Rose), or were introduced too late to matter (Zori). Who am I forgetting?

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dilateDChemist
08/10/22 9:00:43 PM
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Can we just all agree that Episode 3 is the best?


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Leonhart4
08/10/22 9:03:10 PM
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dilateDChemist posted...
Can we just all agree that Episode 3 is the best?

get out

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dilateDChemist
08/10/22 9:03:44 PM
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Everyone forgot about the Knights of Ren.

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dilateDChemist
08/10/22 9:04:47 PM
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Leonhart4 posted...
get out

Was a better movie than any Sequel Trilogy film.

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Leonhart4
08/10/22 9:28:17 PM
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dilateDChemist posted...
Was a better movie than any Sequel Trilogy film.


Leonhart4 posted...
get out


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dilateDChemist
08/10/22 9:56:55 PM
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You not liking Get Out is honestly not shocking at all.


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Leonhart4
08/10/22 9:59:49 PM
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Oh, I misunderstood the joke. I thought you were talking about Episode III (all the prequels are not good). I have never seen Get Out.

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StifledSilence
08/10/22 10:08:02 PM
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dilateDChemist posted...
Can we just all agree that Episode 3 is the best?



Yes

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HanOfTheNekos
08/10/22 10:37:47 PM
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Do people who dislike the ST actually care about Star Wars?

Yes.

Close topic.

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CassandraCain
08/10/22 11:11:00 PM
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Leonhart4 posted...
I'm pretty sure Halo's question is more along the lines of "why did you feel the need to tell us about it"

This. You didn't actually answer my question, LMS. Why did you truly make this topic? What were you seeking to gain or learn here?

dilateDChemist posted...
Can we just all agree that Episode 3 is the best?

Hell no. Not even top 3.

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LinkMarioSamus
08/11/22 3:37:44 AM
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I made this topic because I genuinely thought all along that Star Wars fans merely had misplaced passion and now I'm starting to realize otherwise. The main spokesperson for Midnight's Edge at least made it upfront he's never been into Star Wars, and I could rant on and on about it.

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MoogleKupo141
08/11/22 4:38:37 AM
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LMS have you ever seen Heat

next time you get the inclination to watch a YouTube video about Star Wars or whatever, you should watch the film Heat instead

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Mr_Lasastryke
08/11/22 5:21:10 AM
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LinkMarioSamus posted...
The main spokesperson for Midnight's Edge at least made it upfront he's never been into Star Wars, and I could rant on and on about it.

why are you still talking about midnight's edge

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Axl_Rose_85
08/11/22 5:25:10 AM
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Leonhart4 posted...
Considering your answer is the same stuff you've said for months now, so it's not like you're saying anything new

For months now?
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Leonhart4
08/11/22 6:22:59 AM
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LinkMarioSamus posted...
I made this topic because I genuinely thought all along that Star Wars fans merely had misplaced passion and now I'm starting to realize otherwise. The main spokesperson for Midnight's Edge at least made it upfront he's never been into Star Wars, and I could rant on and on about it.

But like, why do you care

And why do you think we care

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LinkMarioSamus
08/11/22 8:03:17 AM
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MoogleKupo141 posted...
LMS have you ever seen Heat

next time you get the inclination to watch a YouTube video about Star Wars or whatever, you should watch the film Heat instead

Funnily enough I mentioned it in the MCU topic once since it was the first Natalie Portman role that came to mind.

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