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DoomTheGyarados 05/02/22 2:55:32 PM #1: |
players 1. Sultan 2. Scare 3. Plum 4. Lopen 5. changmas 6. htaeD 7. Han 8. IGCD 9.Sbell 10.Kirby321 11.Mzero 12.Red --- Sir Chris ... Copied to Clipboard!
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htaeD 05/02/22 2:56:34 PM #2: |
htaeD posted... Why and when would Changmas even have shot you Plum? --- Sword IGN: Pandora Brilliant Diamond IGN: Aurora ... Copied to Clipboard!
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masterplum 05/02/22 2:57:38 PM #3: |
Chang has me as the only person on his top scum list. I assumed he would have killed me last night if he had multiple shots. But having role related reasons to not shoot is WTF --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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changmas 05/02/22 2:57:41 PM #4: |
TheSultanOfSlam posted... Might as well fully claim it now I think not, sir. I'm sure you can figure it out though --- The Artist Formerly Known as Hannyabal ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kirby321 05/02/22 2:57:41 PM #5: |
Remind me to comment on chang's revelation in about fifteen minutes. I have some insight, but I want to see where this leads to first... --- Kirby321 is 60% epicsauce, 40% epic failure Soo... how was your day? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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htaeD 05/02/22 2:57:55 PM #6: |
OH, sorry to ask a final question for you Plum But this should be fair to answer What if we ever lost or didnt make use of the ability to vote for Kings? Does your Gladiator just override the normal lynch? --- Sword IGN: Pandora Brilliant Diamond IGN: Aurora ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheSultanOfSlam 05/02/22 2:58:45 PM #7: |
changmas posted... I think not, sir. I'm sure you can figure it out though Well you do not look good with this Gladiator claim now so it doesn't look good. What i can assume is every other night --- When I steal the show, YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN ... Copied to Clipboard!
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htaeD 05/02/22 2:59:01 PM #8: |
I mean there could be all kinds of reasons for a multihit vig to not be able so shoot twice in a row. Doesnt make Chang more or less scummy --- Sword IGN: Pandora Brilliant Diamond IGN: Aurora ... Copied to Clipboard!
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htaeD 05/02/22 2:59:23 PM #9: |
Interesting that you immediately pick Plums side, Sultan --- Sword IGN: Pandora Brilliant Diamond IGN: Aurora ... Copied to Clipboard!
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masterplum 05/02/22 2:59:40 PM #10: |
htaeD posted... OH, sorry to ask a final question for you Plum No, it would happen at the same time, and then I suppose if the lynch resulted in us losing before the normal lynch the game would end. --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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changmas 05/02/22 2:59:49 PM #11: |
TheSultanOfSlam posted... Well you do not look good with this Gladiator claim now so it doesn't look good. What i can assume is every other night well one of us has actually proved we can use our ability, so.... --- The Artist Formerly Known as Hannyabal ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Obellisk 05/02/22 3:00:20 PM #12: |
Changs addition to his role actually makes me feel worse about him and better about plum... speaking theoretically, multi shot vignsounds more like need more scum points to afford a second shot. --- (\____/) ( SBell ) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Obellisk 05/02/22 3:01:03 PM #13: |
damn, I was sultaned. --- (\____/) ( SBell ) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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masterplum 05/02/22 3:01:15 PM #14: |
Chang being a multi shot vig that also has apparently other role quirks screams scum. --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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htaeD 05/02/22 3:01:46 PM #15: |
Obellisk posted... Changs addition to his role actually makes me feel worse about him and better about plum... I did think this So Changmas I think you might as well come clean fully I mean I am not sure I even want you to shoot again ...Then again you probably would shoot Plum, and I think the numbers would be on our side still --- Sword IGN: Pandora Brilliant Diamond IGN: Aurora ... Copied to Clipboard!
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changmas 05/02/22 3:02:21 PM #16: |
masterplum posted... Chang being a multi shot vig that also has apparently other role quirks screams scum. you would say that, wouldn't you? --- The Artist Formerly Known as Hannyabal ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Obellisk 05/02/22 3:02:32 PM #17: |
we lynch town and chang shoots town it's game over man, game over. --- (\____/) ( SBell ) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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htaeD 05/02/22 3:03:19 PM #18: |
Would 4 town, 1 indy and 4 scum count as a loss for town? --- Sword IGN: Pandora Brilliant Diamond IGN: Aurora ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Obellisk 05/02/22 3:03:55 PM #19: |
And I just noticed the topic title. you're such a shit, Chris. --- (\____/) ( SBell ) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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masterplum 05/02/22 3:03:57 PM #20: |
changmas posted... you would say that, wouldn't you? Yes. Because I thought my role and single shot vig made sense, and my role and multi shot vig do not make sense --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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changmas 05/02/22 3:04:11 PM #21: |
Obellisk posted... we lynch town and chang shoots town it's game over man, game over. you really think i'm shooting in that scenario? please have some respect for me --- The Artist Formerly Known as Hannyabal ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Obellisk 05/02/22 3:05:01 PM #22: |
changmas posted... you really think i'm shooting in that scenario? please have some respect for me I mean, I don't know you like at all. --- (\____/) ( SBell ) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 05/02/22 3:05:29 PM #23: |
Straight up don't care for Chang's addition to his role Now it sounds like he's trying to overextend and force the plum lynch ##Unking Still kinda okay with a plum lynch but we should really weigh whether scum extra kill as gladiator makes sense or just scum killing Ben + Ulti makes sense. I really want plum to elaborate on why he thinks town vig + town gladiator makes sense though. Like have you even thought about the setup at all? --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kirby321 05/02/22 3:06:14 PM #24: |
What I don't understand is why scum chang would suddenly give this revelation when lynching plum will likely incriminate chang. Unless they're both scum and trying to bus? If chang is scum, the right play would've been to just stay silent. Unless scum has a triple kill, then the game can't end until tomorrow regardless, if I did the math right. We'll be in MyLo if we don't get scum today, and if somehow there's an extra kill, then we just end up in LyLo tomorrow. But a triple kill can't be possible because, as per Chris's rules, we wouldn't be in Kingmaker mode right now. --- Kirby321 is 60% epicsauce, 40% epic failure Soo... how was your day? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheSultanOfSlam 05/02/22 3:06:56 PM #25: |
htaeD posted... Interesting that you immediately pick Plums side, Sultan I haven't picked either persons side both look equally as bad to the other but being vague when a similar role was just claimed isn't a good look. Dont put words in my mouth Death! --- When I steal the show, YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kirby321 05/02/22 3:07:23 PM #26: |
In any case, seems everyone including plum has gotten their opinions in. chang is bullshitting. I don't know why, but this is a direct contradiction: changmas posted... I'm not opposed to it if that's the play that needs to be made at the 24 hour mark but I personally doubt it's the optimal play for town. I'm certain there's either a player with a significantly better read on the game than mine right now who would be better as a leader in scumhunting, or someone with a more useful power to protect since I'm out of shots. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80002443/964646031 --- Kirby321 is 60% epicsauce, 40% epic failure Soo... how was your day? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoomTheGyarados 05/02/22 3:08:19 PM #27: |
[3] Sbell: Kirby, Han, Sbell [2] Chang: Chang, Mzero [2] Sultan: Plum, Sultan Less than Four hours until No Lynch. It takes 6 to King. --- Sir Chris ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 05/02/22 3:08:45 PM #28: |
##King SBell --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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htaeD 05/02/22 3:09:13 PM #29: |
That is a good point tho Kirby A role that kills during the day and could suddenly send us into Mylo feels like it would mess with the very existence of a King. --- Sword IGN: Pandora Brilliant Diamond IGN: Aurora ... Copied to Clipboard!
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changmas 05/02/22 3:09:25 PM #30: |
Kirby321 posted... In any case, seems everyone including plum has gotten their opinions in. why would it ever be in my best interest at that point in the game to let the mafia think I have more shots --- The Artist Formerly Known as Hannyabal ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kirby321 05/02/22 3:09:27 PM #31: |
I noticed that contradiction earlier, because chang said somewhere in Topic 5 that he never stated how many shots he had. Upon a reread, I noticed that specific line, but kept it silent in case chang was playing some greater mindgame or something. --- Kirby321 is 60% epicsauce, 40% epic failure Soo... how was your day? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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masterplum 05/02/22 3:09:32 PM #32: |
Lopen posted... Straight up don't care for Chang's addition to his role Two potential town kills in 17 isnt crazy. I didnt bat an eye when Chang claimed vig. I immediately assumed it was single shot because it would be crazy otherwise but I thought vocalizing that thought process only could help scum. As someone who really enjoys theorycrafting mafia games, I would be much more likely to put in two different roles for town that could kill over one town that can kill twice, because having a single town role that kills multiple times adds in a ton of unnecessary variance to the game. A bad town with multiple shots vs a great town with multiple shots is a huge swing in balance and I generally avoid that. --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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htaeD 05/02/22 3:10:13 PM #33: |
TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Very well, but thats the assumption I had to make from the way you questioned Chang --- Sword IGN: Pandora Brilliant Diamond IGN: Aurora ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 05/02/22 3:10:35 PM #34: |
So do you suspect Chang now plum? --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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masterplum 05/02/22 3:11:42 PM #35: |
Lopen posted... So do you suspect Chang now plum? Oh absolutely. I would kill him. Our roles cant coexist. --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheSultanOfSlam 05/02/22 3:13:52 PM #36: |
htaeD posted... Very well, but thats the assumption I had to make from the way you questioned Chang Fair point im just thinking being vague right now isn't pro town when a role similar enough to his has also been claimed --- When I steal the show, YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kirby321 05/02/22 3:15:17 PM #37: |
changmas posted... why would it ever be in my best interest at that point in the game to let the mafia think I have more shots ... Okay fair point. Looking back at that same page, it lines up with what you said earlier about denying having any more shots. In any case, I'm more willing to believe a multi-shot vig with a reload/cooldown period than the existence of gladiator contradicting the MyLo/LyLo rules. --- Kirby321 is 60% epicsauce, 40% epic failure Soo... how was your day? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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masterplum 05/02/22 3:16:14 PM #38: |
Kirby321 posted... ... Okay fair point. Looking back at that same page, it lines up with what you said earlier about denying having any more shots. It doesnt contradict the rules though --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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changmas 05/02/22 3:19:43 PM #39: |
i will full claim if it becomes absolutely necessary BUT right now it's mainly just my top two scum reads pushing for that, so I think I'm good to let that sit --- The Artist Formerly Known as Hannyabal ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kirby321 05/02/22 3:20:42 PM #40: |
masterplum posted... It doesnt contradict the rules though The rules state: DoomTheGyarados posted... At the dawn of any day where a King may cause town to fall after the lynch but before night phase, instead the game becomes one of majority rule as the rabble becomes too frightened to vote for a King. So fair, it doesn't necessarily contradict the rules, but it certainly warps them a bit beyond expectation. I don't think anyone would reasonably expect 7 Town / 4 Scum to change the voting style, but with a Gladiator, that is totally in the realm of possibility. Gladiator match kills town + King mislynch on town + scum nightkill = game over. So in the case of 7 / 4, we'd have to do majority rules, which just seems odd without prior context of having a gladiator. --- Kirby321 is 60% epicsauce, 40% epic failure Soo... how was your day? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Obellisk 05/02/22 3:21:05 PM #41: |
changmas posted... i will full claim if it becomes absolutely necessary if I'm kinged, which looks likely, I'm going to require it. and I'd rather have it now instead of you taking time (presumedly) to finish crafting it. --- (\____/) ( SBell ) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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htaeD 05/02/22 3:21:26 PM #42: |
I am also very curious, Chang Need to be away for a bit tho.. So in the mean time ##Vote King: Sbell --- Sword IGN: Pandora Brilliant Diamond IGN: Aurora ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 05/02/22 3:21:26 PM #43: |
Chang question does plum's claim make you want to lynch him more or are you now leaning to Sultan --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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changmas 05/02/22 3:21:44 PM #44: |
i promise you it is far more simple than whatever you imagine it to be --- The Artist Formerly Known as Hannyabal ... Copied to Clipboard!
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changmas 05/02/22 3:22:14 PM #45: |
Lopen posted... Chang question does plum's claim make you want to lynch him more or are you now leaning to Sultan i've wanted to lynch / kill plum since the moment I saw Ben's flip fyi --- The Artist Formerly Known as Hannyabal ... Copied to Clipboard!
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htaeD 05/02/22 3:22:30 PM #46: |
And heck an early Gladiator + Changs 2nd shot + King kill could end the game in a scumvictory tonight if everything goes wrong It doesnt add up --- Sword IGN: Pandora Brilliant Diamond IGN: Aurora ... Copied to Clipboard!
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changmas 05/02/22 3:22:45 PM #47: |
but sure this gives me absolute certainty --- The Artist Formerly Known as Hannyabal ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 05/02/22 3:23:02 PM #48: |
I know that I'm saying how do you react to his claim vs a claim of vanilla --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheSultanOfSlam 05/02/22 3:24:09 PM #49: |
What is our king vote at? I know im not going to be come king to many weary of me so ill probably just vote Sbell as well. --- When I steal the show, YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN ... Copied to Clipboard!
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changmas 05/02/22 3:24:24 PM #50: |
Lopen posted... I know that changmas posted... but sure this gives me absolute certainty sorry i ran into 60 second post flooding rules lol --- The Artist Formerly Known as Hannyabal ... Copied to Clipboard!
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