Poll of the Day > The USA has had 288 SCHOOL SHOOTINGS..and the SECOND Highest only had EIGHT!!!

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According to website worldpopulationreview, the United States has had 288 SCHOOL SHOOTINGS in over 2 decades which is way way way above the world average as the countries with the second highest has only had EIGHT school shootings such as Mexico and South Africa but those numbers pale in comparison to the US..

Even Canada has only had 2 school shootings in the last 20 years which is nowhere near the average.

The biggest reason for school shootings being rare elsewhere except the US is because of stringent gun laws of which the united states refuses to act upon and the cycle keeps continuing.

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Uhmmmm, is it really appropriate to glorify gun violence like we have won some kind of prize?

entitleness

it's still illegal for kids ot have the guns so it can't be the kids's's fault

Hell yeah, America!

We have a lot of guns in Canada as well.

Its almost like making gun ownership a right and not a privilege, showing one every couple of minutes on TV and having conservative self-defense laws has some kind of effect on a persons mentality to always run straight for one any time a problem arises.

And to be fair, the UK has a daily stabbing tally they announce on their radios. At least thats what it seemed like when I was there. Show the number of stabbings there to get an idea of what will happen if guns get banned here. Id rather face a gun than a knife.

Fun experiment: Put on a white t-shirt and get a second person with a Sharpie to try to poke you with it. All those black marks that will definitely be all over you are potential stab wounds.

2009 is not 2 decades ago

although, that just makes it worse...

zebatov posted...

Id rather face a gun than a knife.

???

Dont the other countries use knives or something else

zebatov posted...

Id rather face a gun than a knife.

lol

I think other countries need to stop downplaying the long-term safety that gun ownership ensures in America. The general populace being armed means the government's power over us has a limitation.

Keep in mind that the "school shooting" statistics are intentionally deceptive. The number has historically included things like a man who shot himself in a school parking lot outside of school hours, reports of a gunshot near a school on a Saturday when school wasn't in session, a domestic abuse situation between teachers, etc, rather than the kind of thing that jumps to mind when people say "school shooting"... actually, ALL of those incidents were from the past decade.

And much of the "increase" came from a change in classification where the definition was intentionally broadened to obfuscate the real number, although the number of incidents people associate with school shootings are higher today than what they were when schools had rifle clubs.

mrduckbear posted...

Even Canada has only had 2 school shootings in the last 20 years which is nowhere near the average.

...because it's not classifying as many things as school shootings, for starters. The entire classification exists because people wanted to balloon the number to push an agenda.

it's also not fair since America has 144 times more schools than other countries, right?

It's obvious there is a gun problem, but there are people denying it.

I think most people realize it, but the the right-wingers in power don't care.

zebatov posted...

Its almost like making gun ownership a right and not a privilege, showing one every couple of minutes on TV

What lol

You cant seriously be saying "kids saw guns on tv and now they wanna shoot up their school!"

Maybe theres one on tv every couple of minutes...if its an action flick but a lot of countries watch Hollywood movies.

zebatov posted...

Id rather face a gun than a knife.

No, you wouldn't.

An attacker has a knife, you run away; an attacker has a gun, have fun being shot in the back.

DocDelicious posted...

I think other countries need to stop downplaying the long-term safety that gun ownership ensures in America. The general populace being armed means the government's power over us has a limitation.

That may have been true once upon a time when guns where single shot muzzle loaded, but hasn't been true for decades, and certainly not in our life times. Your semi-automatic rifle is not going to protect you from a tank, or a reaper drone or a nuclear weapon; if anything it will only help to identify you as an enemy combatant.

How many were gang related?

zebatov posted...

And to be fair, the UK has a daily stabbing tally they announce on their radios. At least thats what it seemed like when I was there. Show the number of stabbings there to get an idea of what will happen if guns get banned here. Id rather face a gun than a knife.

ONS data shows 275 homicides via 'sharp instrument' in England and Wales from April 2019 through March 2020: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/datasets/appendixtableshomicideinenglandandwales

Adjust that for population size and it'd be the equivalent of about 1551 homicides in the USA.

CDC data shows 19384 homicides via firearm in the USA in 2020: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm

The UK has a knife crime problem but it doesn't even touch on the number of people killed in shootings in the USA. The rate of deaths by shooting in USA is more than twelve times the rate of death by stabbing in UK.

DocDelicious posted...

I think other countries need to stop downplaying the long-term safety that gun ownership ensures in America. The general populace being armed means the government's power over us has a limitation.

lmao if the government wanted to they could wipe you and your entire town out in a matter of minutes.

It's actual an issue of American culture using violence to solve problems, especially economic ones.

zebatov posted...

Id rather face a gun than a knife.

While I fear blades more than bullets, it's far easier to run away from a knife wielder than a gun wielder. I also imagine shooting someone is more detached and easier for the average person than actually shoving steel inside one's flesh.

The efficiency and convenience of a weapon certainly relates to it's rate of abuse.

DocDelicious posted...

I think other countries need to stop downplaying the long-term safety that gun ownership ensures in America. The general populace being armed means the government's power over us has a limitation.

We also have the strongest military in the world, likely eliminating any reasonable chance Americans would have at revolt

Stab wounds are broadly speaking less dangerous than gunshot wounds, though obviously that varies highly on a case by case basis.

DocDelicious posted...

I think other countries need to stop downplaying the long-term safety that gun ownership ensures in America. The general populace being armed means the government's power over us has a limitation.

All those guns are very useful against tomahawk missiles and stealth bombers.

zebatov posted...

We have a lot of guns in Canada as well.

Its almost like making gun ownership a right and not a privilege, showing one every couple of minutes on TV and having conservative self-defense laws has some kind of effect on a persons mentality to always run straight for one any time a problem arises.

And to be fair, the UK has a daily stabbing tally they announce on their radios. At least thats what it seemed like when I was there. Show the number of stabbings there to get an idea of what will happen if guns get banned here. Id rather face a gun than a knife.

Fun experiment: Put on a white t-shirt and get a second person with a Sharpie to try to poke you with it. All those black marks that will definitely be all over you are potential stab wounds.

The US has more than the UK per capita, even with it being the stabbing capital of Europe. The US is just a shithole.