Board 8 > The MJ Incident - An Exercise in Reading Articles

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PrivateBiscuit1
10/26/21 3:58:50 PM
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@Mr_Lasastryke

This is all that really needs to be known from this topic.

ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Ok to add an even more funny layer to Lasa flipping out over this, the original article he complained about that said Exclusive: Zendaya is Mary Jane Watson literally says her characters name is Michelle, lol:

https://www.thewrap.com/zendaya-spider-man-homecoming-role-reveal-mary-jane-watson/amp/


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Aecioo
10/26/21 3:59:05 PM
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CoolCly
10/26/21 4:03:11 PM
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Hey Lasa, hypothetical situation. if you were say something and later realize that what you said was completely wrong and out of place, is it ever possible to walk it back and admit that, or is the only option to double down and assert everybody else has completely misunderstood the facts?

just a nice thought experiment


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KommunistKoala
10/26/21 4:03:37 PM
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i was wondering who was spamming the baldwin topic

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Mr Lasastryke
10/26/21 4:03:39 PM
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fuck off you fucking piece of shit

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TomNook
10/26/21 4:04:16 PM
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I'm going to talk about Alec Baldwin here instead.

I can't believe he shot someone. Why didn't he check the gun first?

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HashtagSEP
10/26/21 4:06:35 PM
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Mr Lasastryke posted...
fuck off you fucking piece of shit

No, you fuck off. You were wrong, acted condescending about it (point out where MJ has ever been black in the comics and then apologize when you cant!), and now that your shit was called out and proved wrong by multiple people, you turn into a fucking child like you always do, with your fuck offs and your piece of shits.

If you cant handle being wrong about something and getting reacted to in turn when you act like a douchebag, then get off the internet until you can grow the fuck up.

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PrivateBiscuit1
10/26/21 4:08:01 PM
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Mr Lasastryke posted...
fuck off you fucking piece of shit
Go find your dignity and apologize to me after you can't find it.

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Mr Lasastryke
10/26/21 4:08:50 PM
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HashtagSEP posted...
No, you fuck off. You were wrong, acted condescending about it (point out where MJ has ever been black in the comics and then apologize when you cant!), and now that your shit was called out and proved wrong by multiple people, you turn into a fucking child like you always do, with your fuck offs and your piece of shits.

If you cant handle being wrong about something and getting reacted to in turn when you act like a douchebag, then get off the internet until you can grow the fuck up.

shut the fuck up shitsack

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HashtagSEP
10/26/21 4:10:30 PM
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Mr Lasastryke posted...
shut the fuck up shitsack

Cry some more, you fucking baby. Youre not worth anybodys time when you act like this every time people call you out for being an asshole.

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Leonhart4
10/26/21 4:10:56 PM
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ChaosTonyV4
10/26/21 4:11:18 PM
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PrivateBiscuit1
10/26/21 4:12:33 PM
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As much as I like a good tantrum, Lasa you should really just step away and chill because this isn't actually a big enough of a deal to start flipping out over like this.

I almost jumped in on what you said last night but I said "Nah I don't really want to get into an argument with Lasa of all people." And then when you started using silly arguments about it when I'm a pretty huge comic buff, I decided to jump in.

Just chill dude. It wouldn't have escalated to this point if you weren't so aggro towards people over this.

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Lightning Strikes
10/26/21 4:12:56 PM
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You know I was just thinking today how lucky we are that board 8 exists when even well-moderated forums on websites with better reputations usually just dissolve into people who basically agree with each other on the vast majority of issues yelling for no reason.

lol

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CoolCly
10/26/21 4:13:49 PM
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Hey Lasa, hypothetical question. if you were to start saying "fuck off" and calling people "piece of shit", does that mean you are actually really mad in that scenario, or is that something you do ironically and are actually just having a giggle m8

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Mr Lasastryke
10/26/21 4:15:02 PM
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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
As much as I like a good tantrum, Lasa you should really just step away and chill because this isn't actually a big enough of a deal to start flipping out over like this.

I almost jumped in on what you said last night but I said "Nah I don't really want to get into an argument with Lasa of all people." And then when you started using silly arguments about it when I'm a pretty huge comic buff, I decided to jump in.

Just chill dude. It wouldn't have escalated to this point if you weren't so aggro towards people over this.

maybe you should have made this "just chill dude!" post before dedicating an entire motherfucking topic to how i'm apparently a fucking idiot who can't read

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TotallyNotMI
10/26/21 4:16:28 PM
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uhhhhh I feel like I'm missing some context to this topic

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PrivateBiscuit1
10/26/21 4:17:25 PM
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Maybe you should have just chilled before angrily and aggressively arguing over an MCU character without prompting from anyone else like an adult.

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PrivateBiscuit1
10/26/21 4:17:55 PM
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TotallyNotMI posted...
uhhhhh I feel like I'm missing some context to this topic
Have fun

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/79722554

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HashtagSEP
10/26/21 4:18:23 PM
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Mr Lasastryke posted...
maybe you should have made this "just chill dude!" post before dedicating an entire motherfucking topic to how i'm apparently a fucking idiot who can't read

Dude, you were being super condescending in that other topic. You get super aggro, and people are bound to get aggro back. You need to take a deep breath sometimes and take a step back instead of doubling and tripling down and acting like everybody else must be an idiot.

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Mr Lasastryke
10/26/21 4:21:57 PM
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HashtagSEP posted...
Dude, you were being super condescending in that other topic. You get super aggro, and people are bound to get aggro back. You need to take a deep breath sometimes and take a step back instead of doubling and tripling down and acting like everybody else must be an idiot.

HashtagSEP posted...
This might be the dumbest, most nitpicky argument Ive ever seen.

yeah, this wasn't a needlessly aggressive response to my post at all! you were just trying to have a nice, normal conversation and then i escalated it for no reason!

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Dantezoid
10/26/21 4:24:39 PM
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Is this the topic

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TotallyNotMI
10/26/21 4:25:14 PM
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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Have fun

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/79722554
I dunno if fun is the word to describe what I just read but it was entertaining at least.

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Mr Lasastryke
10/26/21 4:25:49 PM
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i like how privatebiscuit completely ignored my post before making this hilarious topic about how i'm a fucking idiot who can't read, btw:

this... completely proves my point? what do you think they're trying to say with the "pseudonyms are often used" line? they're clearly saying "michelle is just a pseudonym used for the character during production, the character is going to be called mary jane in the movie." which is false, as we now know.

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PrivateBiscuit1
10/26/21 4:28:15 PM
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Mr Lasastryke posted...
i like how privatebiscuit completely ignored my post before making this hilarious topic about how i'm a fucking idiot who can't read, btw:
Because you're purposefully misinterpreting what was said to suit your argument.

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HashtagSEP
10/26/21 4:28:36 PM
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Mr Lasastryke posted...
yeah, this wasn't a needlessly aggressive response to my post at all! you were just trying to have a nice, normal conversation and then i escalated it for no reason!

I mean, it is a ridiculously nitpicky argument, though! You tried to call a source crap because they called a character that is a stand-in for Mary Jane Mary Jane, just because they changed the characters name a bit but still call her MJ and confirmed shes the MCU version of Mary Jane.

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Espeon
10/26/21 4:32:41 PM
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Lasa, you really shouldve read that article three times before commenting on it.

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CoolCly
10/26/21 4:34:45 PM
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Hey Lasa, hypothetical situation. You are being rather obtuse in that other topic, but you wee too stuck in your own mindset to step back and see it. They definitely made an incorrect conclusion in that article, but it was because of preconceived notions that most people would share, while the information they had was completely correct. Your assertion was that they aren't a good new source because of that Zendaya article where they reported something incorrectly - but their info was good, and their incorrect conclusion was fair and just looks humourous in hindsight with the facts as we now know them. That article is a bad example of poor reporting from them. That you are continuing to argue the point just makes you look less reasonable, like you are somehow actually unable to reconcile the facts of that article. Take care.


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scarletspeed7
10/26/21 4:34:46 PM
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No matter whether she's MJ or not, the Ultimate Spider-Man comic did it better. And I followed Truffaut's Law and read it thrice to confirm it.

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Mr Lasastryke
10/26/21 4:34:50 PM
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HashtagSEP posted...
You tried to call a source crap because

...no. it was an example. i wasn't saying "the wrap sucks because they got one story incorrect." i've been reading movie news sites for years and the wrap just isn't very good. but if you guys want to believe the wrap is an amazing source, be my guest.

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HashtagSEP
10/26/21 4:37:59 PM
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Mr Lasastryke posted...
...no. it was an example. i wasn't saying "the wrap sucks because they got one story incorrect." i've been reading movie news sites for years and the wrap just isn't very good. but if you guys want to believe the wrap is an amazing source, be my guest.

Mr Lasastryke posted...
the wrap is kind of a shitty source for movie news reporting. i remember when they said "100% CONFIRMED THAT ZENDAYA PLAYS MARY JANE WATSON IN SPIDER-MAN HOMECOMING," which we now know is not true.

I mean, its literally the example you gave. And I was specifically calling your MJ argument dumb and nitpicky. Since it was very, very nitpicky. And also wrong, in the end, since she literally is the MCUs version of Mary Jane as was confirmed by Stan Lee.

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Mr Lasastryke
10/26/21 4:38:23 PM
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still don't really get why the truffaut's law thing became such a big deal but it is funny how inviso and scarlet made the same joke in the span of a few minutes!

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Mr Lasastryke
10/26/21 4:48:28 PM
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HashtagSEP posted...
I mean, its literally the example you gave.

yes, and in the literal next post i gave a different example and said that i "didn't really care about the MJ example," so...? seriously don't get why you're trying to paint the discussion as if the MJ example was my entire argument for saying the wrap is not good. like, even if the MJ story was total bullshit and zendaya were called gwen stacey in the movies, i still wouldn't have attacked the wrap if that were the only thing they ever got wrong. obviously, every news outlet gets a story wrong from time to time.

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HanOfTheNekos
10/26/21 4:49:41 PM
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HashtagSEP
10/26/21 4:55:10 PM
#37:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
seriously don't get why you're trying to paint the discussion as if the MJ example was my entire argument for saying the wrap is not good.

Because when people tried to point out that they technically weren't wrong about it, you like quadrupled down on it, making it feel like it was the backbone of your argument. Which also got awkward when you repeated several times "It's not supposed to be Mary Jane, Mary Jane isn't black."

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Mr Lasastryke
10/26/21 5:27:31 PM
#38:


oh right, i should answer this

CoolCly posted...
Hey Lasa, hypothetical question. if you were to start saying "fuck off" and calling people "piece of shit", does that mean you are actually really mad in that scenario, or is that something you do ironically and are actually just having a giggle m8

i was definitely mad when i made those posts. i don't take people insulting me lightly.

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GuessMyUserName
10/26/21 5:36:59 PM
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legit i had no idea her name wasn't Mary Jane

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MoogleKupo141
10/26/21 5:44:25 PM
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there seems to be some confusion here. people are saying Zendayas character is named Michelle, but actually Zendaya is Meechee

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XIII_rocks
10/26/21 6:21:27 PM
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You know I like that b8 doesn't descend into this sort of thing particularly often anymore but it is a bit of a guilty pleasure when it does happen

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Maniac64
10/26/21 6:24:46 PM
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Dantezoid posted...
Is this the topic
I hope not

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RaidenGarai
10/26/21 6:35:34 PM
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Mr Lasastryke posted...
oh right, i should answer this

i was definitely mad when i made those posts. i don't take people insulting me lightly.
You need thicker skin dude. This is so mild.

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StartTheMachine
10/26/21 6:52:25 PM
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This doesn't seem like a meaningful use of anyone's time

But it is kinda funny

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Mr Lasastryke
10/26/21 7:08:49 PM
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alright, i will admit that there were certainly major problems with my MJ example. i completely forgot about the "call me MJ" scene in homecoming. and i didn't realize that stan lee and james gunn - as well as several perfectly credible news sources - also reported that zendaya was going to play mary jane at the time. so yeah, even if the story had been total bullshit, i can't really call out the wrap on this one. if infowars reports something, i can't specifically call them out if reuters also reports the same thing.

i sincerely apologize for being so condescending and confident in my stances when i shouldn't have been. i totally screwed up on this one. i will try to do better.

(the people who thought it was necessary to insult and belittle me over this can still fuck off, though)

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Mr Lasastryke
10/26/21 7:10:53 PM
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RaidenGarai posted...
You need thicker skin dude. This is so mild.

if essentially saying i'm a fucking idiot who can't read is "so mild," i'd love to know what your idea of an insult is.

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kevwaffles
10/26/21 7:20:40 PM
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Mr Lasastryke posted...
if essentially saying i'm a fucking idiot who can't read is "so mild," i'd love to know what your idea of an insult is.

It's amazing how many times you can take this stance with different people and not see the common denominator.
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Mr Lasastryke
10/26/21 7:24:22 PM
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kevwaffles posted...
It's amazing how many times you can take this stance with different people and not see the common denominator.

the common denominator is "board 8"

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RaidenGarai
10/26/21 7:25:35 PM
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Mr Lasastryke posted...
if essentially saying i'm a fucking idiot who can't read is "so mild," i'd love to know what your idea of an insult is.
I dealt with far worse than youre a fucking idiot who cant read almost every day in 6th grade, and I handled it better than you are now as an adult (at least I assume youre an adult).

Look the other way and realize that what other people say about you doesnt matter. You dont need to break into a wall of fuck offs every time someone says something you dont like. You could simply close the topic and go about your day like most of us seem to do.

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paperwarior
10/26/21 7:27:43 PM
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I think everyone involved here needs to start with the man in the mirror and ask him to change his ways

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