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Ogurisama
05/29/21 12:21:36 AM
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Muscles
05/29/21 12:23:44 AM
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I still wonder how that show got so popular, it's just your average run of the mill sitcoms

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Dikitain
05/29/21 2:50:13 AM
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Muscles posted...
I still wonder how that show got so popular, it's just your average run of the mill sitcoms
It's the 90's, sitcoms were huge back then.

That is like asking why Big Brother was so popular despite being your average run of the mill reality game show.

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LinkPizza
05/29/21 3:43:09 AM
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Muscles posted...
I still wonder how that show got so popular, it's just your average run of the mill sitcoms

It was a different time back then. You can also tell because some of the jokes aged poorly. As in, there are apparently some jokes you can't really say on tv anymore...
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SpeedDemon20
05/29/21 3:52:03 AM
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I always remember the Amanda joke.

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Nichtcrawler X
05/29/21 9:23:30 AM
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Muscles posted...
I still wonder how that show got so popular, it's just your average run of the mill sitcoms

Since Friends, everything has been trying to be the next Friends. Like Seinfeld, it really popularized a style of sitcom and everyone copied.

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blu
05/29/21 9:27:37 AM
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Muscles posted...
I still wonder how that show got so popular, it's just your average run of the mill sitcoms

It wasnt back when it came out.
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LinkPizza
05/29/21 9:30:19 AM
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blu posted...
It wasnt back when it came out.

Are you sure? Because I believe it was one of the shows with the highest viewership...
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blu
05/29/21 9:31:27 AM
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LinkPizza posted...
Are you sure? Because I believe it was one of the shows with the highest viewership...

I was referring to the second part of the statement, average run of the mill not the first part.
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LinkPizza
05/29/21 9:33:06 AM
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blu posted...
I was referring to the second part of the statement, average run of the mill not the first part.

Ah. I see... That makes sense.
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Krazy_Kirby
05/29/21 9:51:06 AM
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LinkPizza posted...


It was a different time back then. You can also tell because some of the jokes aged poorly. As in, there are apparently some jokes you can't really say on tv anymore...


still funny.

too bad they don't sell the uncut version
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LinkPizza
05/29/21 9:52:59 AM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
still funny.

too bad they don't sell the uncut version

I mean, while it wasnt really my show, I still do find it funny in small pieces. I just remember watching some videos on how some of the jokes would be canceled these days or whatever...
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adjl
05/29/21 11:06:40 AM
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Muscles posted...
I still wonder how that show got so popular, it's just your average run of the mill sitcoms

It's run-of-the-mill because it set many of the standards we consider normal for sitcoms today. That's not unlike saying that the cinematography of Citizen Kane is nothing special (though not quite to the same degree).

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Muscles
05/29/21 11:23:42 AM
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Even if you watch it in a vacuum and not compare it to any sitcoms that came after it it still just seems so... tame and boring. There is no boundary pushing, intelligent jokes, or especially artistic writing/camera work/etc

This is coming from someone that used to like friends and seen every episode multiple times, but once you become an adult and get a more refined taste it just seems so plain

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MeteoricBurst
05/29/21 11:32:22 AM
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I never got the Friends craze even though I grew up while it was happening. I always thought Frasier and Seinfeld were much funnier.

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El Marsh
05/29/21 11:38:22 AM
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MeteoricBurst posted...
I never got the Friends craze even though I grew up while it was happening. I always thought Frasier and Seinfeld were much funnier.
Same. The characters were just too silly/stupid for my liking. That kind of bothered me with Seinfeld at times but I felt that it (Seinfeld) wasn't as defined by it as Friends.

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SunWuKung420
05/29/21 2:57:53 PM
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Muscles posted...
Even if you watch it in a vacuum and not compare it to any sitcoms that came after it it still just seems so... tame and boring. There is no boundary pushing, intelligent jokes, or especially artistic writing/camera work/etc
Ross's lesbian wife leaving him for a woman was groundbreaking.

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Smiffwilm
05/29/21 3:24:51 PM
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Can they be any more LEGO?


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Muscles
05/29/21 5:34:48 PM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
Ross's lesbian wife leaving him for a woman was groundbreaking.
Uhh that's not really that big of a deal, even Simpson's pushes the boundaries further

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LinkPizza
05/29/21 6:39:13 PM
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Muscles posted...
Uhh that's not really that big of a deal, even Simpson's pushes the boundaries further

It might have been bigger back then, though...
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Ogurisama
05/29/21 6:53:52 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
It might have been bigger back then, though...
Yeah, Simpsons didnt really have an openly gay characters until after Friends.
Friends was also one of the first sitcoms to have a gay wedding episode

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Criminalt
05/30/21 1:13:50 PM
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It seemed like it was one of the few sitcoms at the time whose format wasn't about the holy trinity of "mom, dad, and the kids".

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Ogurisama
05/30/21 1:25:00 PM
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helIy
05/30/21 1:43:29 PM
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ross's wife leaving him for another woman was fucking HUGE back then

before that, there was really just the ellen show when she came out on it

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Smiffwilm
05/30/21 2:06:36 PM
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Ogurisama posted...
https://i.imgur.com/2ElFu7s.jpg
How did you manage to pivot that...

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Krazy_Kirby
05/30/21 2:20:28 PM
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Smiffwilm posted...

How did you manage to pivot that...


he had joey help instead of chandler and rachel
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adjl
05/30/21 6:23:33 PM
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Muscles posted...
Even if you watch it in a vacuum and not compare it to any sitcoms that came after it it still just seems so... tame and boring. There is no boundary pushing, intelligent jokes, or especially artistic writing/camera work/etc

This is coming from someone that used to like friends and seen every episode multiple times, but once you become an adult and get a more refined taste it just seems so plain

In other words, you appreciated it at the time, but as time passed and you had more experiences, it stopped seeming remarkable? That's how things like this go: They influence everything that comes after them and experiencing those other things prevents the original from standing out. As much as you'd like to think you're watching it in a vacuum and not comparing it to others, you do have a suite of expectations and standards that have been set by everything you've experienced, and every experience you have is subconsciously compared to those.

Muscles posted...
Uhh that's not really that big of a deal, even Simpson's pushes the boundaries further

Today? Absolutely. In 1992? Absolutely not. That was a huge deal back then.

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Muscles
05/30/21 7:09:52 PM
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adjl posted...
In other words, you appreciated it at the time, but as time passed and you had more experiences, it stopped seeming remarkable?
No, in other words it's stupid and something that you grow out of once you get some standards

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adjl
05/30/21 7:12:21 PM
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Muscles posted...
No, in other words it's stupid and something that you grow out of once you get some standards

Standards that you got by... experiencing more recent media that was influenced by it?

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Muscles
05/30/21 7:16:23 PM
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I'm pretty sure nothing I like was influenced by it at all seeing as I don't like any sitcoms that came after it

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ParanoidObsessive
05/30/21 7:54:36 PM
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It's run-of-the-mill because it set many of the standards we consider normal for sitcoms today.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SeinfeldIsUnfunny
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jiffdiff
05/30/21 10:56:54 PM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SeinfeldIsUnfunny

Seinfeld is still hilarious though and everyone who says that is wrong and should feel bad.
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Metalsonic66
05/30/21 11:10:50 PM
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Muscles posted...
No, in other words it's stupid and something that you grow out of once you get some standards
lol

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JOExHIGASHI
05/30/21 11:11:24 PM
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There's no bathroom or bedrooms

I thought the show was decent. Kinda funny.

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ArvTheGreat
05/30/21 11:12:21 PM
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Friends was always terrible even back then

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zebatov
05/30/21 11:59:58 PM
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I thought Lego was cool up until a little while ago.
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adjl
05/31/21 9:46:42 AM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SeinfeldIsUnfunny

Yes, exactly.

jiffdiff posted...
Seinfeld is still hilarious though and everyone who says that is wrong and should feel bad.

Honestly, Seinfeld never really clicked with me. It's got its share of great moments, certainly, so I can enjoy watching clips from it, but my general impression has always been that it's pretty dull outside of those, such that it's not one I've ever felt much drive to watch full episodes of. A good chunk of that, though, is probably due to the fact that I only reached an age where I could enjoy it in the early 2000's, well after it had exerted its influence and the industry had built considerably on it.

Muscles posted...
I'm pretty sure nothing I like was influenced by it at all seeing as I don't like any sitcoms that came after it

You think that a sitcom is only able to influence other sitcoms? You dramatically overestimate how isolated the different sectors of the entertainment industry are. Furthermore, I don't recall specifying that it was things you like that were influenced by it. If anything, it's pretty reasonable to infer that not liking subsequent sitcoms was at least partially because they felt unoriginal due to being too much like Friends.

You seem to be under the impression that your standards just changed spontaneously, or as part of an inevitable, natural process. That never happens. There's always some sort of reason for our tastes in entertainment, even if it's impossible to tie it down to a single, easily-identified cause. We are products of the complex interactions between our various experiences, many of which happen totally subconsciously.

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