Poll of the Day > Off-duty cop shoots and kills two black men

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Far-Queue
04/14/21 5:28:56 PM
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He thought they were breaking into cars, and they attempted to flee...

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/duty-pentagon-police-officer-charged-maryland-shooting-left-two-dead-n1263645

https://apnews.com/article/maryland-police-shootings-f08714633a3f44e34e26adc93d383194

Even if they were breaking into cars, even if they were guilty... this isn't something people should be getting shot over. Police are not judge, jury, and executioner. If your suspect flees, give chase. Get a description. Call for backup. What the fuck is going on in this fucking country?

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Mead
04/14/21 5:32:11 PM
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Too many guns. Too easy to get them. Cops trained badly.

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Blightzkrieg
04/14/21 5:34:27 PM
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Is an off duty cop shooting fleeing individuals legally any different from a vigilante? Serious question.

Like are people just expected to psychically realize that it's a cop who's chasing them with a gun?

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acesxhigh
04/14/21 5:40:48 PM
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Holy based.
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Kanatteru
04/14/21 5:45:20 PM
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acesxhigh posted...

what the hell is going on with you man. all your posts lately have been this edgelord shit. this ain't you

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III-URBAN-III
04/14/21 5:51:08 PM
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The cops in the US are garbage, this shit happens wayyy too much. I'm pretty sure if this happened anywhere else people would just start shooting the police whenever they rolled up.

There's like a 60% chance they will kill you for no reason.

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acesxhigh
04/14/21 6:07:22 PM
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Kanatteru posted...
what the hell is going on with you man. all your posts lately have been this edgelord shit. this ain't you
Idk, just jaded from giving sympathy to people who hate me and want to steal my shit?
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Jen0125
04/14/21 6:34:48 PM
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acesxhigh posted...
Idk, just jaded from giving sympathy to people who hate me and want to steal my shit?

Who??

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acesxhigh
04/14/21 6:40:14 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
Who??
Thieves obviously, but also violent criminals.
I will say this occasionally includes police too as they are prone to give bullshit tickets and clearly murder people.
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captpackrat
04/14/21 6:41:32 PM
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Jen0125
04/14/21 6:46:54 PM
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acesxhigh posted...
Thieves obviously, but also violent criminals.
I will say this occasionally includes police too as they are prone to give bullshit tickets and clearly murder people.

You think someone deserves to be murdered for stealing a car?

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streamofthesky
04/14/21 6:57:38 PM
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Is there any actual evidence of them even doing anything remotely resembling potential car theft?

Or is the only "source" literally the claims of the murderer? I'm getting so fucking sick of this shit where the key to a successful defense is murder all the witnesses.
If the only account you have of how actions transpired prior to the homicide is the word of the killer, that shouldn't mean jack shit. Anything that can't be verified by video footage, crime scene investigation, or witnesses, shouldn't even be considered in court. The murderer's words mean nothing.
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Shadowbird_RH
04/14/21 7:00:08 PM
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Mead posted...
Too many guns. Too easy to get them. Cops trained badly.
and not held accountable for their murders. Treat them the way they treat dogs when they kill people and you can be damn sure this shit will stop real quick.

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acesxhigh
04/14/21 7:17:20 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
You think someone deserves to be murdered for stealing a car?
No, but I'm not going to mourn for them either.
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lihlih
04/14/21 7:34:21 PM
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streamofthesky posted...
Is there any actual evidence of them even doing anything remotely resembling potential car theft?

Or is the only "source" literally the claims of the murderer? I'm getting so fucking sick of this shit where the key to a successful defense is murder all the witnesses.
If the only account you have of how actions transpired prior to the homicide is the word of the killer, that shouldn't mean jack shit. Anything that can't be verified by video footage, crime scene investigation, or witnesses, shouldn't even be considered in court. The murderer's words mean nothing.


I worked for a bit with someone who actually went through the police academy. One of the instructors actually told the class that if you have to shoot someone, it's better to shoot them dead because it'll be easier and cleaner if the suspect isn't alive to try and take them to court.
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Zeus
04/14/21 9:47:26 PM
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Far-Queue posted...
If your suspect flees, give chase.

There's talk about wanting to ban chases as well now. Not just car chases, but foot chases as well.


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Zareth
04/14/21 10:46:36 PM
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lihlih posted...
One of the instructors actually told the class that if you have to shoot someone, it's better to shoot them dead because it'll be easier and cleaner if the suspect isn't alive to try and take them to court.
This is common knowledge.

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Far-Queue
04/14/21 11:22:14 PM
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Zeus posted...
There's talk about wanting to ban chases as well now. Not just car chases, but foot chases as well.
I'd be perfectly fine with that, especially for non-violent and/or low-level crime. Push for bodycams and cameras on cruisers would greatly assist in data collection to help identify fleeing suspects so they can be tracked down later.

Police have way too much put on their shoulders and it's abundantly clear that many of them are undertrained or flat-out incompetent. Maybe training them that "getting the bad guys" is less imperative than maintaining peace and order, public safety, and the health and well-being of those involved in a crime scene is part of the solution.

Not totally on-board with the notion of defunding the police, but one aspect of it I do believe in is the allocation of funds for establishing mental health response and/or social service response. Seems a lot of these altercations involve drugs or alcohol or mental illness and cops are ill-prepared to handle such things.

A professional with a background in psychiatric or practical medicine may be better suited, perhaps with a cop on standby if things get out of hand.

I dunno, I'm just an asshole truck driver so my opinions on matters don't amount to much, but something has to change in this country.

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Mead
04/14/21 11:36:43 PM
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acesxhigh posted...
No, but I'm not going to mourn for them either.

Did someone ask you to?

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