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Antifar
12/24/20 9:52:46 AM
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https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-politics-legislation-coronavirus-pandemic-bills-3cf97d6b39b80213ecd3d49ed4dcdc1e

House Republicans shot down a Democratic bid on Thursday to pass President Donald Trumps longshot, end-of-session demand for $2,000 direct payments to most Americans before signing a long-overdue COVID-19 relief bill.
The made-for-TV clash came as the Democratic-controlled chamber convened for a pro forma session scheduled in anticipation of a smooth Washington landing for the massive, year-end legislative package, which folds together a $1.4 trillion governmentwide spending with the hard-fought COVID-19 package and dozens of unrelated but bipartisan bills.
Thursdays unusual 12-minute House session session instead morphed into unconvincing theater in response to Trumps veto musings about the package, which was negotiated by Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin on Trumps behalf. Rep. Steny Hoyer, the No. 2 House Democrat, sought the unanimous approval of all House members to pass the bill, but GOP leader Kevin McCarthy, who was not present in the nearly-empty chamber, denied his approval and the effort fizzled.
If Trump were to follow through on his implied veto threat, delivered via video clip on Tuesday, the government would likely experience a brief, partial shutdown of the government starting on Dec. 29. It would also delay delivery of the $600 direct payments that the bill does contain.
Senate Republicans, led by Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, have opposed larger $2,000 checks as too costly and poorly targeted. Democrats are supportive of the direct payments and now plan to vote on the $2,000 check proposal on Monday. House Republicans are expected to block the vote, but Democrats may try again Monday.
The presidents last-minute objections are setting up a defining showdown with his own Republican Party in his final days in office.
Rather than take the victory of the sweeping aid package, among the biggest in history, Trump is lashing out at GOP leaders over the presidential election for acknowledging Joe Biden as president-elect and rebuffing his campaign to dispute the Electoral College results when they are tallied in Congress on Jan. 6.
The presidents push to increase direct payments for most Americans from $600 to $2,000 for individuals and $4,000 for couples splits the party with a politically painful loyalty test, including for GOP senators David Perdue and Kelly Loeffler, fighting to retain their seats in the Jan. 5 special election in Georgia.
Republican lawmakers traditionally balk at big spending and many never fully embraced Trumps populist approach. Their political DNA tells them to oppose a costlier relief package. But now theyre being asked to stand with the president.
On a conference call Wednesday House Republican lawmakers complained that Trump threw them under the bus, according to one Republican on the private call and granted anonymity to discuss it. Most had voted for the package and they urged leaders to hit the cable news shows to explain its benefits, the person said.

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CableZL
12/24/20 9:54:24 AM
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Flauros
12/24/20 9:54:47 AM
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xmenhavok
12/24/20 9:54:49 AM
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The whole point was to fuck the Gop, and it works.
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SquirtleSkwad
12/24/20 9:56:12 AM
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I really hope we're witnessing the death of the GOP.

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CableZL
12/24/20 9:56:37 AM
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xmenhavok posted...
The whole point was to fuck the Gop, and it works.

Except it's not the GOP getting fucked. It's the people who need the money because they can't afford to feed themselves and their families after losing their jobs due to covid. It's the people who are about to be evicted because they haven't been able to pay rent.

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monkmith
12/24/20 9:56:54 AM
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SquirtleSkwad posted...
I really hope we're witnessing the death of the GOP.
naah, just democracy in general.

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Funkydog
12/24/20 9:57:18 AM
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"They are just pushing this law to make us look bad if we don't pass it"

"So lets not pass it and blame the one who pushed it"

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kingdrake2
12/24/20 9:58:17 AM
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cant wait to see what happens out of this. if the government shuts down. it's trumps/GOP fault.
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Questionmarktarius
12/24/20 9:58:39 AM
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SquirtleSkwad posted...
I really hope we're witnessing the death of the GOP.
It needs to be.
The republican party is at its best when beaten down and forced to regroup
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LinkDaLunatic
12/24/20 9:58:47 AM
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i am shocked. SHOCKED! well, not that shocked.
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Zikten
12/24/20 9:59:04 AM
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After all the shit they mindlessly obeyed Trump on.....this is where they choose to suddenly defy him....
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ncsonic
12/24/20 9:59:04 AM
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Stop voting for Republicans

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xmenhavok
12/24/20 9:59:18 AM
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CableZL posted...
Except it's not the GOP getting fucked. It's the people who need the money because they can't afford to feed themselves and their families after losing their jobs due to covid. It's the people who are about to be evicted because they haven't been able to pay rent.
He doesn't give a shit about the people.
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ToPoPO
12/24/20 9:59:22 AM
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Christmas is fucking RUINED
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masterpug53
12/24/20 10:00:43 AM
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Do I still have to swallow my stubborn pride and thank Daddy Trump for trying?

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Questionmarktarius
12/24/20 10:01:08 AM
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ToPoPO posted...
Christmas is fucking RUINED
"where money" wasn't happening until deep into January anyway.
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IdiotMachine
12/24/20 10:04:33 AM
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Republican minority leader tried to curtail other spendings, but democrats refused to budge on that. Why wasnt that mentioned, and only the $2000 mentioned in the article?

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DundiesAward
12/24/20 10:06:09 AM
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IdiotMachine posted...
Republican minority leader tried to curtail other spendings, but democrats refused to budge on that. Why wasnt that mentioned, and only the $2000 mentioned in the article?

No one cares about the pork the Dems tried to shove into the 2k bill just the checks.

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3PiesAndAFork
12/24/20 10:09:28 AM
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If this results in their loss of power in the senate, I will be shocked. They know people will be dumb enough to vote republican in the runoffs regardless so there's really no risk in them screwing everybody over.

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DezDroppedFreak
12/24/20 10:09:29 AM
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Somehow the GOP is going to spin it to blame democrats and Trumps followers will eat it up despite them being the ones in the way

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Questionmarktarius
12/24/20 10:09:29 AM
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DundiesAward posted...
No one cares about the pork the Dems tried to shove into the 2k bill just the checks.
Also it's completely disingenuous for the GOP to suddenly care about deficits now, after three years of making it rain.
The party needs a shakeup.
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LinkDaLunatic
12/24/20 10:17:15 AM
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a shakeup? nah. every single chair needs to be filled by a different bottom
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Veggeta X
12/24/20 10:19:42 AM
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whyyyyyyyy money

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Doom_Art
12/24/20 10:23:44 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
The party needs a shakeup
"a shakeup" isn't what I think they need...

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Demon1050
12/24/20 10:32:32 AM
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DundiesAward posted...


No one cares about the pork the Dems tried to shove into the 2k bill just the checks.


trust me man that stuff matters. It's basically robbing us all and giving it to friends and special interests with legal loopholes. That shit needs to go and instead be sent to people that need it. Like, really need it.

both parties are completely appalling to reject this bill. Everybody needs to be in jail and we can start over with good people that have actual compassion towards another living being of the same species.
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Cornhuskers
12/24/20 10:34:41 AM
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CableZL posted...


Except it's not the GOP getting fucked. It's the people who need the money because they can't afford to feed themselves and their families after losing their jobs due to covid. It's the people who are about to be evicted because they haven't been able to pay rent.

"This is Washington. Washington sucks."

Said atleast once, thought of many, many times.
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PatrickMahomes
12/24/20 10:37:32 AM
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Antifar posted...
anonymity
Why is this a thing when it comes to our representatives? We should be allowed to know every word that is uttered at all times as it pertains to lawmaking.

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SPE
12/24/20 10:39:24 AM
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kingdrake2 posted...
cant wait to see what happens out of this. if the government shuts down. it's trumps/GOP fault.

I hope this impacts the GA runoffs

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Solar_Crimson
12/24/20 10:39:37 AM
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Who didn't see this coming?

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lww99
12/24/20 10:42:54 AM
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Zikten
12/24/20 10:46:38 AM
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lww99 posted...
Fucking called it. Should have just taken $600

if you are talking to us, we never got a say. yea some of us were hoping for the 2000 but it's not like we ever had a vote on it. all the blame is on the politicians
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AzNDarkSamurai
12/24/20 10:47:03 AM
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lww99 posted...
Fucking called it. Should have just taken $600

This. They even barely managed to agree to give us those pennies. I never imagined $2000 would be a thing.

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lww99
12/24/20 10:51:33 AM
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Zikten posted...
if you are talking to us, we never got a say. yea some of us were hoping for the 2000 but it's not like we ever had a vote on it. all the blame is on the politicians

not talking to anyone here specifically. Just something I knew would happen.

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CableZL
12/24/20 10:57:45 AM
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indica
12/24/20 10:59:42 AM
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SPE posted...
I hope this impacts the GA runoffs
I really hope so too

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CommunismFTW
12/24/20 2:23:45 PM
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So we went from 600 to 2k to $0?

cool

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E32005
12/24/20 2:26:10 PM
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ncsonic posted...
Stop voting for Republicans


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Balrog0
12/24/20 2:29:15 PM
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IdiotMachine posted...
Republican minority leader tried to curtail other spendings, but democrats refused to budge on that. Why wasnt that mentioned, and only the $2000 mentioned in the article?

Lol I wish I couldn't believe that people were trying to both sides this but of course

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CommonStar
12/24/20 2:32:53 PM
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The vote was doomed the second Pelosi said it needed unanimous consent. Dems have the majority in House, why didn't she make it the regular roll call vote?
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ScazarMeltex
12/24/20 2:33:55 PM
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CommonStar posted...
The vote was doomed the second Pelosi said it needed unanimous consent. Dems have the majority in House, why didn't she make it the regular roll call vote?
Because it requires a rewrite of the bill that was already passed by the house.

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Beemo_Season11
12/24/20 2:34:27 PM
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Too many billions are going out to countries that don't even like the US. So yes, definitely need to redo the bill.
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Questionmarktarius
12/24/20 2:34:28 PM
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CommonStar posted...
Dems have the majority in House, why didn't she make it the regular roll call vote?
Because, it's always politically more useful to maintain the status quo while blaming the other side for never getting anything done.
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harley2280
12/24/20 2:35:05 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
CommonStar posted...
Dems have the majority in House, why didn't she make it the regular roll call vote?
Because, it's always politically more useful to maintain the status quo while blaming the other side for never getting anything done.

nah in this case:

ScazarMeltex posted...
CommonStar posted...
The vote was doomed the second Pelosi said it needed unanimous consent. Dems have the majority in House, why didn't she make it the regular roll call vote?
Because it requires a rewrite of the bill that was already passed by the house.

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CommonStar
12/24/20 2:36:27 PM
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It doesn't need a rewrite of the bill. They could've done the vote on a standalone $2k bill.
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Questionmarktarius
12/24/20 2:37:28 PM
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CommonStar posted...
They could've done the vote on a standalone $2k bill.
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harley2280
12/24/20 2:40:39 PM
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CommonStar posted...
It doesn't need a rewrite of the bill. They could've done the vote on a standalone $2k bill.

Which would be writing an entirely new bill to amend something in an old bill. That's called an amendment.

I recommend taking some time and reading up on parliamentary procedure. Also check out Roberts Rules of Order.
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