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The_Scarecrow
09/15/20 8:48:25 AM
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Mario 64 is running on a unknown emulator as of right now. Sunshine and Galaxy are running under a Wii and Gamecube emulator called hagi possibly made by Nintendo of Europe Division(NERD).

https://twitter.com/OatmealDome/status/1305773333020016640?s=20
https://twitter.com/OatmealDome/status/1305774812170727426?s=20
https://twitter.com/OatmealDome/status/1305794753854943232?s=20
https://twitter.com/OatmealDome/status/1305794987330883584?s=20

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CyricZ
09/15/20 8:49:15 AM
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Uh... yeah?

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MeIon Bread
09/15/20 8:50:37 AM
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I don't understand all this tech stuff. Is them being emulated good or bad, and why?

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Gwynevere
09/15/20 8:51:06 AM
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No BLJ in 64, I guess no ones gonna be running it on Switch then

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FabIe
09/15/20 8:51:27 AM
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Doe
09/15/20 8:51:34 AM
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Mario 64 is ultra dated. Sunshine is practically not even a good game. None of the games look better than what modding has accomplished on PC. 2020 is a fucking awful Nintendo year.

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The_Scarecrow
09/15/20 8:53:49 AM
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CyricZ posted...
Uh... yeah?

Um... no? The game would have better performance if it wasn't emulated for starters.

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Doe
09/15/20 8:55:25 AM
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I dunno why anyone would believe the games run natively, they look identical to the originals + a texture pack and wide-screen hack

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Veggeta X
09/15/20 8:57:18 AM
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LMAO this is like Super Mario All-Star release for the Wii all over again.

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Doom_Art
09/15/20 8:59:22 AM
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Eh I still pre-ordered

So long as it runs without hiccup then I'm satisfied

Feel like folks got a little too hyped up prior to the announcement

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spikethedevil
09/15/20 9:01:12 AM
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Veggeta X posted...
LMAO this is like Super Mario All-Star release for the Wii all over again.

Which was a port of an SNES compilation.

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CyricZ
09/15/20 9:05:18 AM
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Doe posted...
I dunno why anyone would believe the games run natively, they look identical to the originals + a texture pack and wide-screen hack
Exactly. Like, what did you think would happen?

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Apocalyptic
09/15/20 9:09:30 AM
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Doe posted...
I dunno why anyone would believe the games run natively, they look identical to the originals + a texture pack and wide-screen hack

It's not something as simple as just how it looks. Emulation brings along the possibility of input lag as well or how the game performs. We would get better battery life as well if it ran natively on the Switch.

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Into_The_LOL
09/15/20 9:11:53 AM
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Nintendo will still be successful despite being so damn lazy lol
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Choco
09/15/20 9:15:27 AM
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everything about this collection is cringe

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PiOverlord
09/15/20 9:23:34 AM
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Gwynevere posted...
No BLJ in 64, I guess no ones gonna be running it on Switch then
0/1/16 star are obviously no good, but 70/120 still have a lot of potential viability on the Switch.

For one thing, 70 star does not allow BLJ's. As long as every other trick is there, 70 star on the Switch could perhaps be the fastest version of SM64 70 stars with faster loading potentially, along with the reduction of lag.

120 star is a toss-up as there are blj's used in the top-level of it, but they do not save that much time over not doing it. If the reduction of lag along with faster loading is quick enough, it could render those blj's obsolete.

Of course, no one should kid themselves, it would not matter if blj's were still a thing, the SM64 community is one of the most puritanical communities out there and hold the N64 version as the end-all be-all. They love lag strats and believe lag is an intended part of the game, and it's why the speedrun leaderboards for it separate it all. Even if the Switch had the BLJ's, it would be rejected by the community for not being the N64 version.

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Doom_Art
09/15/20 9:27:50 AM
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Choco posted...
everything about this collection is cringe
i don't think you know what that word means

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Veggeta X
09/15/20 9:27:57 AM
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spikethedevil posted...
Which was a port of an SNES compilation.
Says you. This guy says different: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/605742-super-mario-all-stars-25th-anniversary-edition/62039297

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REMercsChamp
09/15/20 9:29:15 AM
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Other people: Play game and enjoy it
CE: Rages over minute technical details

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LordFarquad1312
09/15/20 9:31:30 AM
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Into_The_LOL posted...
Nintendo will still be successful despite being so damn lazy lol
So lazy they literally made their own Wii and GCN emulator.

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Ivany2008
09/15/20 9:32:22 AM
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MeIon Bread posted...
I don't understand all this tech stuff. Is them being emulated good or bad, and why?

Could be bad. Sometimes emulation suffers from slowdown, which in certain games can be a very bad thing. I think the legacy/classic version of Punch Out was emulated on to the 3DS,which made beating Mike Tyson nearly impossible due to slowdown.
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--Zero-
09/15/20 9:32:31 AM
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This is good news for the modding community for software purposes

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ZevLoveDOOM
09/15/20 9:33:58 AM
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it could run on a fucking potato for all i care...

i still wanna play it, specially Mario Sunshine!
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Ivany2008
09/15/20 9:34:48 AM
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--Zero- posted...
This is good news for the modding community for software purposes

It can be. Though them porting Mario 64 instead of hiring the guy who literally remade Mario 64 in Unreal 4 makes little sense, since the project was from my knowledge nearing completion.
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ledbowman
09/15/20 9:36:41 AM
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REMercsChamp posted...
Other people: Play game and enjoy it
CE: Rages over minute technical details
its extremely sad

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BignutzisBack
09/15/20 9:41:02 AM
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Nintendo fans will bend over with a smile on their face for anything so this isn't surprising lol

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The Popo
09/15/20 9:41:03 AM
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A lotta Karens in this topic gonna be calling Nintendo and asking to speak with a manager. Hope their customer support team is ready, Amerikarens are seething.

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Veggeta X
09/15/20 9:41:22 AM
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REMercsChamp posted...
Other people: Play game and enjoy it
CE: Rages over minute technical details
You guys know damn well you're making an exception to Nintendo. Dunno why yall even try to play.

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REMercsChamp
09/15/20 9:41:52 AM
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The Popo posted...
A lotta Karens in this topic gonna be calling Nintendo and asking to speak with a manager. Hope their customer support team is ready, Amerikarens are seething.




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REMercsChamp
09/15/20 9:43:05 AM
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Veggeta X posted...
You guys know damn well you're making an exception to Nintendo. Dunno why yall even try to play.
Mario 64 is one of my favorite games and I didn't expect it to come out on the switch with a graphics upgrade.

So I'm going to play it and enjoy it instead of going on an internet forum and crying and technical specifications?

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Veggeta X
09/15/20 9:43:52 AM
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When you like something enough you'll make exceptions for it. Otherwise if you didn't you'd prolly Karening up the same as others.

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LostForest
09/15/20 9:44:55 AM
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BignutzisBack posted...
Nintendo fans will bend over with a smile on their face for anything so this isn't surprising lol


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REMercsChamp
09/15/20 9:46:14 AM
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Veggeta X posted...
When you like something enough you'll make exceptions for it. Otherwise if you didn't you'd prolly Karening up the same as others.
I don't know what you're talking about. It's an HD upgrade of an all time classic. I don't argue about technical specifications or squawk about a few bucks. I find some of the gaming culture bizarre - like the PS5, you see 10x more squawking about a potential $50 give or take price difference of the console and talking about technical specifications like the UI loading time then you do people talking about what games might be on the system. You do realize that's what these things are for right - to play games and have fun?

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ledbowman
09/15/20 9:46:17 AM
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Veggeta X posted...
When you like something enough you'll make exceptions for it. Otherwise if you didn't you'd prolly Karening up the same as others.
when we don't like something we dont buy it and move on not try to start a boycott

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Apocalyptic
09/15/20 9:48:00 AM
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ledbowman posted...
when we don't like something we dont buy it and move on not try to start a boycott

The game is going to sell extremely well. Preorders are out everywhere so who is trying to start an unsuccessful boycott?

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Veggeta X
09/15/20 9:49:06 AM
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REMercsChamp posted...
I don't know what you're talking about. It's an HD upgrade of an all time classic. I don't argue about technical specifications or squawk about a few bucks. I find some of the gaming culture bizarre - like the PS5, you see 10x more squawking about a potential $50 give or take price difference of the console and talking about technical specifications like the UI loading time then you do people talking about what games might be on the system. You do realize that's what these things are for right - to play games and have fun?
Some how I feel like you wouldn't say this about anything else.

ledbowman posted...
when we don't like something we dont buy it and move on not try to start a boycott
Agreed 100%. But you shouldn't blindly defend and blindly buy either.

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REMercsChamp
09/15/20 9:53:30 AM
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Veggeta X posted...
Some how I feel like you wouldn't say this about anything else.
I just gave you another example of people doing the same thing - worrying about the technical specifications and a few bucks rather than caring if there's any games they actually enjoy playing on it

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Coloradough
09/15/20 9:57:53 AM
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You can play Mario 64 on a toaster oven, why would you pay for it on the Switch?

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DeadBankerDream
09/15/20 9:58:49 AM
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Coloradough posted...
You can play Mario 64 on a toaster oven, why would you pay for it on the Switch?

I'm paying for Super Mario Galaxy.
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ledbowman
09/15/20 10:02:40 AM
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Apocalyptic posted...
The game is going to sell extremely well. Preorders are out everywhere so who is trying to start an unsuccessful boycott?
you know nintendo sells other stuff besides this game right

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Apocalyptic
09/15/20 10:06:51 AM
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ledbowman posted...
you know nintendo sells other stuff besides this game right

Stay on topic. We're talking about 3D All Stars. This topic is about 3D All Stars. Your first post in this topic quoted someone clearly speaking about 3D All Stars. I wonder which logical fallacy you just used.

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Veggeta X
09/15/20 10:13:44 AM
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The issue here isn't Nintendo. The issue here are the blind loyal Nintendo fans who'll blindly buy whatever shit Nintendo spits out like Amiboos and box lego shit.

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ledbowman
09/15/20 10:14:54 AM
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Apocalyptic posted...
Stay on topic. We're talking about 3D All Stars. This topic is about 3D All Stars. Your first post in this topic quoted someone clearly speaking about 3D All Stars. I wonder which logical fallacy you just used.
yea people aren't bitching about nintendo just this game that willed itself into existence

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kingdrake2
09/15/20 10:16:29 AM
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if i had a switch i would get 3D all stars but hopefully nintendo is listening and put galaxy 2 on the store someday.
everyone got stiffed by that.
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Apocalyptic
09/15/20 10:22:19 AM
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ledbowman posted...
yea people aren't bitching about nintendo just this game that willed itself into existence

I never actually said that but okay. Only thing I'm telling you is to stay on topic and address my question instead of dodging it like you did. Do you understand?

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Frogles
09/15/20 10:24:24 AM
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well now it makes more sense that sunshine wasn't brought up to 60 fps.

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Tyranthraxus
09/15/20 10:25:38 AM
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No one cares about BLJ except speed runners who only ever play on original n64 hardware anyway.

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tremain07
09/15/20 10:28:10 AM
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Haha, reminds me of Sonic Mega Collection and Sonic Gems Collections on the gamecube ,selling stolen games for full price is now Capcom kept the mega man franchise alive all this time,too. My brother already pre-ordered,too.

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Duncanwii
09/15/20 10:29:12 AM
#50:


Ivany2008 posted...


It can be. Though them porting Mario 64 instead of hiring the guy who literally remade Mario 64 in Unreal 4 makes little sense, since the project was from my knowledge nearing completion.

That was done illegally and without Nintendo's permission. Understandably I can see why they didnt give him the time of day.
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