Current Events > Could just once in human history an ugly person on a tv show not get laid

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Just started a new show, a person in it is literally deformed, talks about feeling undesirable and hopeless.

By episode 3 they are getting laid.

I'm so sick of that trope. It's like all of tv/film can't conceive of a person who goes 1 month let alone many many years without sex/relationships. Even if they are deformed weirdos.

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What show is it

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They wanna make everyone believe they can find love/get laid no matter how unfortunate you look.

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you sound super jealous

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The hunchback of notredame

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SH_expert44 posted...

you sound super jealous

It's a trope of unrealistic writing that happens insanely often.

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the witcher

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In general shows tend to be optimistic because people don't tend to like negative escapism. Most criminals aren't caught, people don't recover or die from diseases, accidents, etc. But shows tend to focus on positive things. No one wants to watch an incel detective dying of terminal cancer fail to catch a murderer.

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what do you have against ugly people getting laid

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JTilly posted...

the witcher

idk if yennefer counts lol

Cartwheel_Kick posted...

idk if yennefer counts lol

she is deformed tho, and i believe it was ep 3

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ssjevot posted...

In general shows tend to be optimistic because people don't tend to like negative escapism. Most criminals aren't caught, people don't recover or die from diseases, accidents, etc. But shows tend to focus on positive things. No one wants to watch an incel detective dying of terminal cancer fail to catch a murderer.

Yeah but somehow people loved GoT and it was about people failing and dying constantly

I could never get into it. Call me a pussy but I already have so much negativity irl I don't need to watch people suffer for 1 hour

JTilly posted...

she is deformed tho, and i believe it was ep 3

I know it's just, literally being transformed because of magic feels different to me than pushing the trope that you can still get laid if ur ugly

ssjevot posted...

In general shows tend to be optimistic because people don't tend to like negative escapism. Most criminals aren't caught, people don't recover or die from diseases, accidents, etc. But shows tend to focus on positive things. No one wants to watch an incel detective dying of terminal cancer fail to catch a murderer.

People totally like realism. Or at least logical narrative rules. If everything is illogical bullshit writers make that doesn't derive from the universe or the rules of reality then it becomes meaningless.

You'd be pissed if you were watching a movie and the villain pointed a gun at the hero and then pulled the trigger and then the bullet just curved back and hit the villain in the head. That "wish fulfillment escapism" isn't earned and is just frustrating.

You can have stories of people "beating the odds" but let's not confuse that for stories where writers just ignore the odds. The later is lazy writing and really overdone.

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ssjevot posted...

In general shows tend to be optimistic because people don't tend to like negative escapism.

I tried to watch Stephen Merchant's show "Hello Ladies" and couldn't get through two episodes.

Well-written show but I felt so fucking bad for the main character.

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DrizztLink posted...

I tried to watch Stephen Merchant's show "Hello Ladies" and couldn't get through two episodes.

Well-written show but I felt so fucking bad for the main character.

I should check it out. I'd like to see a show that is realistic about this kind of thing.

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**Futurama spoilers**

even Zoidberg gets laid


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Cartwheel_Kick posted...

I know it's just, literally being transformed because of magic feels different to me than pushing the trope that you can still get laid if ur ugly

I dunno, if I remember correctly she bones down with that wizard dude prior to getting transformed so that would still count, right?

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And if tv is supposed to be positive escapism then maybe tv shows could have lonely rejected people being successful in other ways rather than pretending that such chronic isolation and being without relationships never ever happens.

Being chronically alone is never treated with acknowledgement or empathy in ways most things will have some shows or movies that take it seriously.

How often is a protagonist romantically rejected in tv/film? I'm struggling to think of any content that has that unless it's a story of somebody with a character flaw which is why they got rejected.

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MrToothHasYou posted...

I dunno, if I remember correctly she bones down with that wizard dude prior to getting transformed so that would still count, right?

I guess so, but I think he was already manipulating her

garlic powder posted...

**Futurama spoilers**

even Zoidberg gets laid

when? I thought his species dies if he has sex


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Tv is supposed to sale dreams lol

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People that are deformed, chronically alone, and/or mentally unfit can and do end up in relationships in real life. So it's not unrealistic to depict it in a show. It happens. Like usual, your personal hangups are effecting your perception of things.

But also....

joe40001 posted...

Being chronically alone is never treated with acknowledgement or empathy in ways most things will have some shows or movies that take it seriously.

While not a "good" show, Chicago Med had a whole episode about this. A few characters on the show apparently have work and nothing else. One character has literally no friends and is apparently always alone.
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King Rial posted...

Like usual, your personal hangups are effecting your perception of things.

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SoundNetwork posted...

The hunchback of notredame

Then the sequel happened.

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TC doesn't realize sex is a regular occurrence and that only weirdos with anti social personalities can't get some

Yeah that shit pissed me off about big bang theory.

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joe40001 posted...

And if tv is supposed to be positive escapism then maybe tv shows could have lonely rejected people being successful in other ways rather than pretending that such chronic isolation and being without relationships never ever happens.

Being chronically alone is never treated with acknowledgement or empathy in ways most things will have some shows or movies that take it seriously.

How often is a protagonist romantically rejected in tv/film? I'm struggling to think of any content that has that unless it's a story of somebody with a character flaw which is why they got rejected.

I get what you're saying but TV shows exist to make money, and most watchers don't want that kind of realism. I think'd be nice though, sometimes at least.

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haha yikes

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King Rial posted...

People that are deformed, chronically alone, and/or mentally unfit can and do end up in relationships in real life. So it's not unrealistic to depict it in a show. It happens.

That's not how "realism" works. Just because something happens (rarely) in real life doesn't make it realism to have it happen in like every show ever.

People have become the MVP of basketball or inducted into the rock and roll hall of fame, but that doesn't mean it would be realism to have that happen as a common trope in tons of shows.

In realism/good writing, improbable things are improbable, they happen sometimes but not often. But "undesirable" loner people getting relationships and sex easily is such an overplayed trope.

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Are you not beautiful op?

smoke_break posted...

I get what you're saying but TV shows exist to make money, and most watchers don't want that kind of realism. I think'd be nice though, sometimes at least.

IMO it helps to have people have real adversity. When it's so warped that hollywood literally finds it inconceivable somebody goes 40 days without sex that they make a movie about it clearly people are out of touch.

The closest I've seen a movie do a decent job is "The 40 Year Old Virgin" and even in that movie he had women going for him earlier in his life, and then as an adult a few women throw themselves at him.

It would be like if no movies or shows ever showed people with money troubles, anybody who is said to have money troubles in a show immediately by like episode 3 gets a bunch of money. It's not even good writing. And generally I find tv pretty good at reflecting a breadth of human experience, but when it comes to relationships they honestly can't imagine a person who in the show goes a month alone.

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sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...

TC doesn't realize sex is a regular occurrence and that only weirdos with anti social personalities can't get some

Sex is nowhere near as common as tv acts like it is.

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King Rial posted...

While not a "good" show, Chicago Med had a whole episode about this. A few characters on the show apparently have work and nothing else. One character has literally no friends and is apparently always alone.

That sounds more like people struggling with being overworked rather than it not being trivial to have relationships, but still at least they made an effort which is more than 99.9% of content.

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Ugly and deformed people have sex every day. Hell, your existence is proof of that, someone had to fuck that she-beast you call your mother after all.

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ssjevot posted...

No one wants to watch an incel detective dying of terminal cancer fail to catch a murderer.

fn a bud speak for urself that sounds entertaining

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Dude Id totally have hunchback yennefer ride me, the view from down there she probably looks perfect, justreach up and put your left hand over her right jaw

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ugly people fuck too tc

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Well Adam Sandler always gets the pretty woman, Seth Rogan gets the woman when neither are good looking guys. It's just TV man.

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KillerKhan420 posted...

Well Adam Sandler always gets the pretty woman, Seth Rogan gets the woman when neither are good looking guys. It's just TV man.

Right, and it's annoying because otherwise tv does a decent job of reflecting reality when it wants to.

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Imagine getting panties in a twist for a fictional character getting laid

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ssjevot posted...

No one wants to watch an incel detective dying of terminal cancer fail to catch a murderer.

People might want to see an incel detective dying of terminal cancer succeed in catching a murderer. It's cool to see somebody who struggles with a bunch of problems succeed at at least one thing. People love troubled heroes and detectives who despite their problems are damn good at their jobs.

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Kazi1212 posted...

Imagine getting panties in a twist for a fictional character getting laid

It's the trope of it happening implausibly that is annoying.

If you got into a movie and then randomly a character could fly for no reason you'd be annoyed the movie just randomly ignored reality.

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MC_BatCommander posted...

ugly people fuck too tc

thats why we call it bumpin uglies

MC_BatCommander posted...

ugly people fuck too tc

Less frequently, and much less frequently with attractive people.

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Most people, whether they're pretty or ugly or whatever, do have sex and the majority of people will get married at some point in their lives, not just the attractive ones. You're letting your bitterness about relationships cloud your understanding of the world, and it's probably contributing to why you aren't successful in forming relationships with others.

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ssjevot posted...

No one wants to watch an incel detective dying of terminal cancer fail to catch a murderer.

COMING SOON ON FOX!!

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Good looking people are usually cast on TV. So an average guy getting laid makes the audience feel better about themselves.

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What bugs me particularly with female roles is when thr cast a chick who's writte. To be ugly they choose a pretty girl or at worst plain looking girl and do their best to make her look uglier. Why not cast a actual ugly girl? I mean fuck danny devito gets roles in movies and TV shows. Surely there are butt ugly women that also having good acting skills.

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