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PleaseClap
12/29/19 1:13:30 AM
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So, I have this friend who's not exactly ugly, but she is a little unfortunate looking. Lately, she's been getting jealous of the attention that I've been receiving from people. She's been getting pretty bitter, and I'm starting to get worried about her. Snide little barbs, a lot of self-loathing, things like that.

I hate to say it, but I don't think that she's due for a glow up anytime soon...How can I tell her that she shouldn't be comparing herself to Instagram models or camgirls if it makes her this miserable? How do you reach someone that's this self deprecating? I know that she'll eventually find someone if she just comes out of her bubble a little and has a little bit more confidence.
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viewmaster_pi
12/29/19 1:14:45 AM
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you don't tbh, she wants validation, not platitudes from the friend she's jealous of

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Johnny_Nutcase
12/29/19 1:14:59 AM
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HAHAHA "but she is a little unfortunate looking"

To me in my mind that's worse than ugly.

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Blackstar110
12/29/19 1:15:12 AM
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CoolJerkY2Kane
12/29/19 1:15:27 AM
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Tell her u need her energy for gobbling up and realize you monster no biggie tho

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viewmaster_pi
12/29/19 1:16:40 AM
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CoolJerkY2Kane posted...
Tell her u need her energy for gobbling up and realize you monster no biggie tho
well said

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Gobstoppers12
12/29/19 1:17:07 AM
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PleaseClap posted...
not exactly ugly, but she is a little unfortunate looking
????????????

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Sonic Cannon
12/29/19 1:17:11 AM
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This is pretty difficult, especially if it's wrapped up in depression. There's no guarantee you'll be able to get here to change her perspective.

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Vyrulisse
12/29/19 1:17:49 AM
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linid0t
12/29/19 1:18:07 AM
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I have this friend who's not exactly ugly, but she is a little unfortunate looking.

I might have to steal this
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unknownhombre
12/29/19 1:18:17 AM
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Sonic Cannon posted...
This is pretty difficult, especially if it's wrapped up in depression. There's no guarantee you'll be able to get here to change her perspective.

This. She may be depressed too.

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NotSoObvious
12/29/19 1:18:29 AM
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your friend

*cough*

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PleaseClap
12/29/19 1:22:39 AM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
you don't tbh, she wants validation, not platitudes from the friend she's jealous of

It's just so annoying that she's taking out this frustration on me.

Sonic Cannon posted...
This is pretty difficult, especially if it's wrapped up in depression. There's no guarantee you'll be able to get here to change her perspective.

Yeah, I might not be qualified to take on that amount of emotional labor.
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Vyrulisse
12/29/19 1:23:38 AM
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I think you should probably tell her she's pretty and cool and stop pretending she isn't. It's not nice to insult someone for no reason especially if the stuff you may be telling her isn't true.

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viewmaster_pi
12/29/19 1:23:38 AM
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PleaseClap posted...
It's just so annoying that she's taking out this frustration on me.
that's really all you can tell her

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viewmaster_pi
12/29/19 1:24:23 AM
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Vyrulisse posted...
I think you should probably tell her she's pretty and cool and stop pretending she isn't. It's not nice to insult someone for no reason especially if the stuff you may be telling her isn't true.
kind of a weird response, is there deeper lore?

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PleaseClap
12/29/19 1:25:21 AM
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Vyrulisse posted...
I think you should probably tell her she's pretty and cool and stop pretending she isn't. It's not nice to insult someone for no reason especially if the stuff you may be telling her isn't true.

I mean, I keep telling her that attitude is more important than anything and I make sure to not talk about her looks negatively in front of her.

CoolJerkY2Kane posted...
Tell her u need her energy for gobbling up and realize you monster no biggie tho

I never thought about that.
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Gobstoppers12
12/29/19 1:27:53 AM
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PleaseClap posted...
I keep telling her that attitude is more important than anything and I make sure to not talk about her looks negatively in front of her.
Do you ever talk about her looks positively in front of her?

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PleaseClap
12/29/19 1:29:20 AM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...

Do you ever talk about her looks positively in front of her?

I think that it's important not to blatantly lie to her when she knows the reality of the situation. If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything, right?
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Vyrulisse
12/29/19 1:30:38 AM
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PleaseClap posted...
I think that it's important not to blatantly lie to her when she knows the reality of the situation. If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything, right?
Yeah but other people tell her she's attractive I'm sure, it only seems to be you that has issue with her appearance. Either they are lying or you are.

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Zodd3224
12/29/19 1:30:51 AM
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The only solution is to stop being so god damn sexy TC

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lincoln002
12/29/19 1:31:39 AM
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For one, you can stop being self absorbed and actually acknowledge the fact that the attention you're getting for your looks is not necessarily the attention you need and that your friendship is worth more than guys who simply value you for your looks. Your friend isn't bitter that you're getting attention and she's not because she's ugly, she's bitter that you think, at least on a subconscious level, that your looks are enough to win over the guys who show interest in you without taking into consideration all the qualities besides her looks that she has over you. Your post is arrogant as hell and speaks volumes about the kind of friend you are, no wonder she's bitter, she has a totally inconsiderate person pretending to be her friend who's more than likely using her to make herself feel better about the way she looks and projecting all her bad personality traits onto her appearance.
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Kami_no_Kami
12/29/19 1:35:15 AM
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Lie.
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PleaseClap
12/29/19 1:35:34 AM
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Captain_Qwark posted...
Find a chad that's willing to demolish that bitch

I'll probably be looking for a very long time.

lincoln002 posted...
For one, you can stop being self absorbed and actually acknowledge the fact that the attention you're getting for your looks is not necessarily the attention you need and that your friendship is worth more than guys who simply value you for your looks. Your friend isn't bitter that you're getting attention and she's not because she's ugly, she's bitter that you think, at least on a subconscious level, that your looks are enough to win over the guys who show interest in you without taking into consideration all the qualities besides her looks that she has over you. Your post is arrogant as hell and speaks volumes about the kind of friend you are, no wonder she's bitter, she has a totally inconsiderate person pretending to be her friend who's more than likely using her to make herself feel better about the way she looks and projecting all her bad personality traits onto her appearance.

I'm not doing anything wrong here. I'm not going to stop putting myself out there because it makes her feel bad about herself.

Vyrulisse posted...

Yeah but other people tell her she's attractive I'm sure, it only seems to be you that has issue with her appearance. Either they are lying or you are.

You haven't seen the things that she's said about herself.
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Axiom
12/29/19 1:35:58 AM
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PleaseClap posted...
I think that it's important not to blatantly lie to her when she knows the reality of the situation. If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything, right?
Lol damn how ugly is this girl
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viewmaster_pi
12/29/19 1:36:55 AM
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wow there is deepest lore

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gamer167
12/29/19 1:48:48 AM
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PleaseClap posted...
So, I have this friend who's not exactly ugly, but she is a little unfortunate looking. Lately, she's been getting jealous of the attention that I've been receiving from people. She's been getting pretty bitter, and I'm starting to get worried about her.

Low key Chad/Stacy brag topic.
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Gobstoppers12
12/29/19 1:50:18 AM
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PleaseClap posted...


I'll probably be looking for a very long time.
Holy shit this is actually the meanest fucking topic, Jesus Christ lmao

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lincoln002
12/29/19 1:51:22 AM
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Ok, how's about using the information I gave you to make her feel better then, explain to her how much it sucks to have guys only hit on you based on your looks and how much of a piece of meat that makes you feel like, explain to her that even though those guys are showing you attention you have absolutely no clue whether they actually want to pursue anything actually romantic with you and how they are going to pressure you for sex instead of actually getting to know who you are and what makes you you.
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PleaseClap
12/29/19 1:56:53 AM
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Axiom posted...

Lol damn how ugly is this girl

She's not deformed or anything.

lincoln002 posted...
Ok, how's about using the information I gave you to make her feel better then, explain to her how much it sucks to have guys only hit on you based on your looks and how much of a piece of meat that makes you feel like, explain to her that even though those guys are showing you attention you have absolutely no clue whether they actually want to pursue anything actually romantic with you and how they are going to pressure you for sex instead of actually getting to know who you are and what makes you you.

I don't think that'll work since I've talked to her how nice all of this attention is before. I don't think that she'll believe me if I suddenly do a 180.
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Sonic Cannon
12/29/19 2:13:41 AM
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Pics?

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viewmaster_pi
12/29/19 2:15:22 AM
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Sonic Cannon posted...
Pics?
p sure everyone involved is trans. if you're still interested, ask away- just letting you know

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PleaseClap
12/29/19 2:19:26 AM
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Sonic Cannon posted...
Pics?

I really dont want this topic to devolve into a bunch of people dunking on my friend
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cuttin_in_farm
12/29/19 2:20:20 AM
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The source of someones envy has practically zero chance of helping them overcome said envy.

A bitter, loveless man wont listen to his buddy thats married for a decade about how happiness doesnt come from a woman.

TC, your friend needs something to happen to prove her wrong. Third parties need to start complimenting her for example.

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Gobstoppers12
12/29/19 2:28:10 AM
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PleaseClap posted...


I really dont want this topic to devolve into a bunch of people dunking on my friend
Okay, I'm being serious right now. You're being extremely mean to this person who you say is your 'friend.'

You should probably stop being so fucking mean. You haven't said a single nice thing about your friend's appearance in this entire topic, even after people have invited you to do so. These backhanded compliments had better not reflect the way you speak to her. That's basically emotional abuse, and I'm not joking.

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malenz
12/29/19 2:33:25 AM
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tell her youd be willing to clap cheeks u stud!!
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Sonic Cannon
12/29/19 3:00:20 AM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
Okay, I'm being serious right now. You're being extremely mean to this person who you say is your 'friend.'

You should probably stop being so fucking mean. You haven't said a single nice thing about your friend's appearance in this entire topic, even after people have invited you to do so. These backhanded compliments had better not reflect the way you speak to her. That's basically emotional abuse, and I'm not joking.
This, to some extent. The attitude here is weirdly critical.
The pics request isn't about "dunking on" anyone, it's about trying to get some perspective on what they are working with.

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008Zulu
12/29/19 3:07:23 AM
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Be honest. And when I say honest, I mean brutal. Tell her that feeling sorry for herself won't make her any more attractive to people. Drag her ass, don't suggest or ask, drag her ass down to a hair stylist and make her get a new hairstyle, a style she would never go for (don't go bald, never go bald). Talk is cheap, it won't help her depression one iota. Show her what change can do for her.

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teepan95
12/29/19 3:24:33 AM
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I hear plastic surgery can do wonders
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malenz
12/29/19 3:25:01 AM
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:(
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Turtlebread
12/29/19 3:52:07 AM
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tc hasnt even said anything mean

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Vyrulisse
12/29/19 10:57:55 AM
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Blackstar110
12/29/19 11:14:22 AM
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This topic is pretty peak Mean Girl

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Zodd3224
12/29/19 11:15:43 AM
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Blackstar110 posted...
This topic is pretty peak Mean Girl

If you were as hot as TC you would be mean too

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Flockaveli
12/29/19 11:16:57 AM
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You don't, you tell them that it's their problem and if she wants to not be ugly then you can help because that's something you know how to do. Convincing is obviously not your strong suit since it hasn't worked so far.

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divot1338
12/29/19 11:20:18 AM
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Pete Davidson fucked Kate Beckinsale.

That would make me pretty happy.

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smoke_break
12/29/19 11:21:17 AM
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I don't really believe this story but just tell her to make a dating app profile. Even if she is as unfortunate-looking as you say, she'll still get some attention.

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PleaseClap
12/29/19 11:37:36 AM
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malenz posted...
tell her youd be willing to clap cheeks u stud!!

I would absolutely not be willing to do that
008Zulu posted...
Be honest. And when I say honest, I mean brutal. Tell her that feeling sorry for herself won't make her any more attractive to people. Drag her ass, don't suggest or ask, drag her ass down to a hair stylist and make her get a new hairstyle, a style she would never go for (don't go bald, never go bald). Talk is cheap, it won't help her depression one iota. Show her what change can do for her.

teepan95 posted...
I hear plastic surgery can do wonders

I dont think that its possible to even spin this straw into like, aluminum

Sonic Cannon posted...
it's about trying to get some perspective on what they are working with.

Ill just save you the time and say that they arent working with much
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PleaseClap
12/29/19 11:39:46 AM
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Vyrulisse posted...
Did you figure out a solution, TC?

I told her that maybe she should get a cat or something for companionship. She got all pissy about that for some reason
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