Poll of the Day > Is it true that FFXII plays like an MMO?

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lihlih 08/20/19 1:07:14 AM #1:	I remember there was a lot of hate for it when it came out for the PS2, and now everyone loves it for some reason? Trying to decide between FFXII and FFX-2 for the Switch. I've never played FFXII, while I played the very beginning of X-2.(the gameplay was fun as fuck, but the story seemed like stupid fanservice bullshit) --- People come up to me... concerned.. that I'll reproduce." - Emo Philips <cite>lihlih posted [p:926295238] in Is it true... [t:77950987]...</cite> <quote>I remember there was a lot of hate for it when it came out for the PS2, and now everyone loves it for some reason? Trying to decide between FFXII and FFX-2 for the Switch. I've never played FFXII, while I played the very beginning of X-2.(the gameplay was fun as fuck, but the story seemed like stupid fanservice bullshit)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 08/20/19 1:32:03 AM #2:	It's not that it plays like an MMO, but that it plays like FFXI (which is an MMO) --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:926295850] in Is it true... [t:77950987]...</cite> <quote>It's not that it plays like an MMO, but that it plays like FFXI (which is an MMO)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 08/20/19 1:37:51 AM #3:	I'm pretty sure people always liked it, but it was a shit game. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:926295990] in Is it true... [t:77950987]...</cite> <quote>I'm pretty sure people always liked it, but it was a shit game.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 08/20/19 1:38:41 AM #4:	BlackScythe0 posted... I'm pretty sure people always liked it I like the treasure hunting, and the rare hunts, and the combat system overall... but the story is hella dumb --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:926296010] in Is it true... [t:77950987]...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm pretty sure people always liked it</quote> I like the treasure hunting, and the rare hunts, and the combat system overall... but the story is hella dumb</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Joelypoely 08/20/19 4:05:57 AM #5:	It's my favourite Final Fantasy. Nearly perfect aside from aspects of the story and some minor things. If you can try and look up a spoiler-free explanation of the Gambit system. It's a bit hard to describe. --- https://philoetryblog.wordpress.com/ <cite>Joelypoely posted [p:926298986] in Is it true... [t:77950987]...</cite> <quote>It's my favourite Final Fantasy. Nearly perfect aside from aspects of the story and some minor things. If you can try and look up a spoiler-free explanation of the Gambit system. It's a bit hard to describe.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dikitain 08/20/19 6:57:20 AM #6:	As someone who doesn't really like MMOs and has only played at most a couple of hours of any one MMORPG, it felt like an MMORPG with an empty server. Plus the Gambit system (at least in PS2 version, can't speak for the newer versions) made it so you could pretty much automate the game to the point you never had to do anything except walk from one encounter to the next. --- I am a senior software engineer. If you see me post here, I am tired of writing TPS reports. <cite>Dikitain posted [p:926301291] in Is it true... [t:77950987]...</cite> <quote>As someone who doesn't really like MMOs and has only played at most a couple of hours of any one MMORPG, it felt like an MMORPG with an empty server. Plus the Gambit system (at least in PS2 version, can't speak for the newer versions) made it so you could pretty much automate the game to the point you never had to do anything except walk from one encounter to the next. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AllstarSniper32 08/20/19 7:50:23 AM #7:	lihlih posted... Trying to decide between FFXII and FFX-2 for the Switch. I've never played FFXII, while I played the very beginning of X-2. Both games are fine and fun. If you really enjoyed FFX then X-2 is good since you run around Spira and you get to see how the world turns out after the events of X. The only fanservice part of the it is the different outfits you can make them wear. The story itself isn't fanservice. Love both of the games. --- If the people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking systems, there would be a revolution before morning - Andrew Jackson <cite>AllstarSniper32 posted [p:926302191] in Is it true... [t:77950987]...</cite> <quote>lihlih posted...</cite> <quote>Trying to decide between FFXII and FFX-2 for the Switch. I've never played FFXII, while I played the very beginning of X-2.</quote> Both games are fine and fun. If you really enjoyed FFX then X-2 is good since you run around Spira and you get to see how the world turns out after the events of X. The only fanservice part of the it is the different outfits you can make them wear. The story itself isn't fanservice. Love both of the games.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bulbasaur 08/20/19 12:29:12 PM #8:	AllstarSniper32 posted... The story itself isn't fanservice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoWWCtACy-w" data-time=" k --- bulba buh buh <cite>Bulbasaur posted [p:926310673] in Is it true... [t:77950987]...</cite> <quote>AllstarSniper32 posted...</cite> <quote>The story itself isn't fanservice.</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoWWCtACy-w" data-time=" k</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Korruptor 08/20/19 12:55:02 PM #9:	FFXII plays like a crappy MMO. <cite>Korruptor posted [p:926311810] in Is it true... [t:77950987]...</cite> <quote>FFXII plays like a crappy MMO.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
papercup 08/20/19 1:00:31 PM #10:	It kind of plays like a single player mmo in some ways. The world is split up into zones in the same way the world was split up into zones in FFXI. There's adventuring npcs walking around some zones fighting monsters. But really, it's a single player game through and through. And while it's not an amazing game, it's really not bad either. I'd say check it out if you're interested. --- Nintendo Network ID: papercups 3DS FC: 4124 5916 9925 <cite>papercup posted [p:926312038] in Is it true... [t:77950987]...</cite> <quote>It kind of plays like a single player mmo in some ways. The world is split up into zones in the same way the world was split up into zones in FFXI. There's adventuring npcs walking around some zones fighting monsters. But really, it's a single player game through and through. And while it's not an amazing game, it's really not bad either. I'd say check it out if you're interested.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 08/20/19 3:22:38 PM #11:	Damn guess I gotta get into it. FF12 has terrible customization. Early there can be some diversification but by the end everyone will have the same spells and access to the same armor. There are no interesting class specific abilities you would normally see in the series for blue mage, monk, dragoon or such. It's very generic. The combat is terrible as an extension of the first point. It seems to have a threat system, but I was never able to figure it out and it isn't until you get the decoy spell which is just "Yea I cast this so you gotta hit me". The playable characters were shit. Some of the worst of any game I have ever played. They had little to no development. Vaan and Penelo should not have been in the game. This is symptomatic of the supposed fact that earlier in development before they ran into trouble the MC was supposed to be Basche but apparently after a staff reshuffle they decided "we need a feminine child because japan" and they never managed to correct the characters and story to make up for this change. Because the characters were trash the story was not compelling. Some of the zones were so excessively large and empty and boring. Like the sandsea zone which was just grey platforms over a sea of yellow, that by the time you got to the next area you forgot why you were going there. The graphics were pretty for the time. I can give them that. The game was hot trash from top to bottom. I'd rather direct you to Summoner, a PS2 launch title with some pretty ugly graphics and a similar combat system that was a great game. Better gameplay, better characters, better story. And yea X-2 is better than XII by miles. It might actually have the best combat in the series. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:926317918] in Is it true... [t:77950987]...</cite> <quote>Damn guess I gotta get into it. FF12 has terrible customization. Early there can be some diversification but by the end everyone will have the same spells and access to the same armor. There are no interesting class specific abilities you would normally see in the series for blue mage, monk, dragoon or such. It's very generic. The combat is terrible as an extension of the first point. It seems to have a threat system, but I was never able to figure it out and it isn't until you get the decoy spell which is just "Yea I cast this so you gotta hit me". The playable characters were shit. Some of the worst of any game I have ever played. They had little to no development. Vaan and Penelo should not have been in the game. This is symptomatic of the supposed fact that earlier in development before they ran into trouble the MC was supposed to be Basche but apparently after a staff reshuffle they decided "we need a feminine child because japan" and they never managed to correct the characters and story to make up for this change. Because the characters were trash the story was not compelling. Some of the zones were so excessively large and empty and boring. Like the sandsea zone which was just grey platforms over a sea of yellow, that by the time you got to the next area you forgot why you were going there. The graphics were pretty for the time. I can give them that. The game was hot trash from top to bottom. I'd rather direct you to Summoner, a PS2 launch title with some pretty ugly graphics and a similar combat system that was a great game. Better gameplay, better characters, better story. And yea X-2 is better than XII by miles. It might actually have the best combat in the series.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DDirtyDastard 08/20/19 4:33:19 PM #12:	I liked the gameplay of FFXII, I just couldn't stand the characters/voice acting. <cite>DDirtyDastard posted [p:926321060] in Is it true... [t:77950987]...</cite> <quote>I liked the gameplay of FFXII, I just couldn't stand the characters/voice acting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mooreandrew58 08/20/19 4:37:29 PM #13:	BlackScythe0 posted... Damn guess I gotta get into it. FF12 has terrible customization. Early there can be some diversification but by the end everyone will have the same spells and access to the same armor. There are no interesting class specific abilities you would normally see in the series for blue mage, monk, dragoon or such. It's very generic. The combat is terrible as an extension of the first point. It seems to have a threat system, but I was never able to figure it out and it isn't until you get the decoy spell which is just "Yea I cast this so you gotta hit me". The playable characters were shit. Some of the worst of any game I have ever played. They had little to no development. Vaan and Penelo should not have been in the game. This is symptomatic of the supposed fact that earlier in development before they ran into trouble the MC was supposed to be Basche but apparently after a staff reshuffle they decided "we need a feminine child because japan" and they never managed to correct the characters and story to make up for this change. Because the characters were trash the story was not compelling. Some of the zones were so excessively large and empty and boring. Like the sandsea zone which was just grey platforms over a sea of yellow, that by the time you got to the next area you forgot why you were going there. The graphics were pretty for the time. I can give them that. The game was hot trash from top to bottom. I'd rather direct you to Summoner, a PS2 launch title with some pretty ugly graphics and a similar combat system that was a great game. Better gameplay, better characters, better story. And yea X-2 is better than XII by miles. It might actually have the best combat in the series. Red rust platforms. It was rusty platforms over the sandsea. Yeah im gonna be that guy lol. I hate that area too so it stuck in my mind --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" <cite>mooreandrew58 posted [p:926321257] in Is it true... [t:77950987]...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>Damn guess I gotta get into it. FF12 has terrible customization. Early there can be some diversification but by the end everyone will have the same spells and access to the same armor. There are no interesting class specific abilities you would normally see in the series for blue mage, monk, dragoon or such. It's very generic. The combat is terrible as an extension of the first point. It seems to have a threat system, but I was never able to figure it out and it isn't until you get the decoy spell which is just "Yea I cast this so you gotta hit me". The playable characters were shit. Some of the worst of any game I have ever played. They had little to no development. Vaan and Penelo should not have been in the game. This is symptomatic of the supposed fact that earlier in development before they ran into trouble the MC was supposed to be Basche but apparently after a staff reshuffle they decided "we need a feminine child because japan" and they never managed to correct the characters and story to make up for this change. Because the characters were trash the story was not compelling. Some of the zones were so excessively large and empty and boring. Like the sandsea zone which was just grey platforms over a sea of yellow, that by the time you got to the next area you forgot why you were going there. The graphics were pretty for the time. I can give them that. The game was hot trash from top to bottom. I'd rather direct you to Summoner, a PS2 launch title with some pretty ugly graphics and a similar combat system that was a great game. Better gameplay, better characters, better story. And yea X-2 is better than XII by miles. It might actually have the best combat in the series.</quote> Red rust platforms. It was rusty platforms over the sandsea. Yeah im gonna be that guy lol. I hate that area too so it stuck in my mind</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AllstarSniper32 08/20/19 6:33:03 PM #14:	Bulbasaur posted... AllstarSniper32 posted... The story itself isn't fanservice. k Congrats, you posted a mini game that doesn't represent the story as a whole. BlackScythe0 posted... FF12 has terrible customization. Early there can be some diversification but by the end everyone will have the same spells and access to the same armor. There are no interesting class specific abilities you would normally see in the series for blue mage, monk, dragoon or such. It's very generic. I'm pretty sure the Switch version is the Zodiak version which means the characters have classes and don't get all the skills and weapons to use. mooreandrew58 posted... Red rust platforms. It was rusty platforms over the sandsea. Yeah im gonna be that guy lol. I hate that area too so it stuck in my mind That's what I thought when I read that section too but I already dismissed their post before even getting to that part. --- If the people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking systems, there would be a revolution before morning - Andrew Jackson <cite>AllstarSniper32 posted [p:926326569] in Is it true... [t:77950987]...</cite> <quote>Bulbasaur posted...</cite> <quote>AllstarSniper32 posted...</cite> <quote>The story itself isn't fanservice.</quote> k</quote> Congrats, you posted a mini game that doesn't represent the story as a whole. BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>FF12 has terrible customization. Early there can be some diversification but by the end everyone will have the same spells and access to the same armor. There are no interesting class specific abilities you would normally see in the series for blue mage, monk, dragoon or such. It's very generic.</quote> I'm pretty sure the Switch version is the Zodiak version which means the characters have classes and don't get all the skills and weapons to use. mooreandrew58 posted...</cite> <quote>Red rust platforms. It was rusty platforms over the sandsea. Yeah im gonna be that guy lol. I hate that area too so it stuck in my mind</quote> That's what I thought when I read that section too but I already dismissed their post before even getting to that part.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 08/20/19 6:37:43 PM #15:	AllstarSniper32 posted... Bulbasaur posted... AllstarSniper32 posted... The story itself isn't fanservice. k Congrats, you posted a mini game that doesn't represent the story as a whole. BlackScythe0 posted... FF12 has terrible customization. Early there can be some diversification but by the end everyone will have the same spells and access to the same armor. There are no interesting class specific abilities you would normally see in the series for blue mage, monk, dragoon or such. It's very generic. I'm pretty sure the Switch version is the Zodiak version which means the characters have classes and don't get all the skills and weapons to use. mooreandrew58 posted... Red rust platforms. It was rusty platforms over the sandsea. Yeah im gonna be that guy lol. I hate that area too so it stuck in my mind That's what I thought when I read that section too but I already dismissed their post before even getting to that part. Don't know don't care and. At least you weren't dismissing it from not remembering the color of a platform from 13 years ago. Just something equally nonsensical I'm guessing. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:926326792] in Is it true... [t:77950987]...</cite> <quote>AllstarSniper32 posted...</cite> <quote>Bulbasaur posted...</cite> <quote>AllstarSniper32 posted...</cite> <quote>The story itself isn't fanservice.</quote> k</quote> Congrats, you posted a mini game that doesn't represent the story as a whole. BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>FF12 has terrible customization. Early there can be some diversification but by the end everyone will have the same spells and access to the same armor. There are no interesting class specific abilities you would normally see in the series for blue mage, monk, dragoon or such. It's very generic.</quote> I'm pretty sure the Switch version is the Zodiak version which means the characters have classes and don't get all the skills and weapons to use. mooreandrew58 posted...</cite> <quote>Red rust platforms. It was rusty platforms over the sandsea. Yeah im gonna be that guy lol. I hate that area too so it stuck in my mind</quote> That's what I thought when I read that section too but I already dismissed their post before even getting to that part.</quote> Don't know don't care and. At least you weren't dismissing it from not remembering the color of a platform from 13 years ago. Just something equally nonsensical I'm guessing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mooreandrew58 08/20/19 6:45:16 PM #16:	AllstarSniper32 posted... That's what I thought when I read that section too but I already dismissed their post before even getting to that part Love the game hated that section. Wasnt so bad my second time though didnt feel nearly as long. --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" <cite>mooreandrew58 posted [p:926327144] in Is it true... [t:77950987]...</cite> <quote>AllstarSniper32 posted...</cite> <quote>That's what I thought when I read that section too but I already dismissed their post before even getting to that part</quote> Love the game hated that section. Wasnt so bad my second time though didnt feel nearly as long.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AllstarSniper32 08/20/19 6:50:12 PM #17:	mooreandrew58 posted... AllstarSniper32 posted... That's what I thought when I read that section too but I already dismissed their post before even getting to that part Love the game hated that section. Wasnt so bad my second time though didnt feel nearly as long. Same. I don't think it was the area for me, I just don't like the enemies in that area XD --- If the people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking systems, there would be a revolution before morning - Andrew Jackson <cite>AllstarSniper32 posted [p:926327375] in Is it true... [t:77950987]...</cite> <quote>mooreandrew58 posted...</cite> <quote>AllstarSniper32 posted...</cite> <quote>That's what I thought when I read that section too but I already dismissed their post before even getting to that part</quote> Love the game hated that section. Wasnt so bad my second time though didnt feel nearly as long.</quote> Same. I don't think it was the area for me, I just don't like the enemies in that area XD</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mooreandrew58 08/20/19 7:01:08 PM #18:	AllstarSniper32 posted... mooreandrew58 posted... AllstarSniper32 posted... That's what I thought when I read that section too but I already dismissed their post before even getting to that part Love the game hated that section. Wasnt so bad my second time though didnt feel nearly as long. Same. I don't think it was the area for me, I just don't like the enemies in that area XD I think i was a tad underleveled and ill equipped my first time. I got through but it felt rough. Second time i guess I overprepared. I recall putting it off for a little while --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" <cite>mooreandrew58 posted [p:926327826] in Is it true... [t:77950987]...</cite> <quote>AllstarSniper32 posted...</cite> <quote>mooreandrew58 posted...</cite> <quote>AllstarSniper32 posted...</cite> <quote>That's what I thought when I read that section too but I already dismissed their post before even getting to that part</quote> Love the game hated that section. Wasnt so bad my second time though didnt feel nearly as long.</quote> Same. I don't think it was the area for me, I just don't like the enemies in that area XD</quote> I think i was a tad underleveled and ill equipped my first time. I got through but it felt rough. Second time i guess I overprepared. I recall putting it off for a little while</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AllstarSniper32 08/20/19 7:21:01 PM #19:	mooreandrew58 posted... I think i was a tad underleveled and ill equipped my first time. I got through but it felt rough. Second time i guess I overprepared. I recall putting it off for a little while I think for my first time through I was also underleveled. The second time I didn't even fight anything, I just used the run button the whole way through! --- If the people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking systems, there would be a revolution before morning - Andrew Jackson <cite>AllstarSniper32 posted [p:926328747] in Is it true... [t:77950987]...</cite> <quote>mooreandrew58 posted...</cite> <quote>I think i was a tad underleveled and ill equipped my first time. I got through but it felt rough. Second time i guess I overprepared. I recall putting it off for a little while</quote> I think for my first time through I was also underleveled. The second time I didn't even fight anything, I just used the run button the whole way through!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 08/20/19 7:33:54 PM #20:	Ah right, I forgot to rant about needing to grind in that game too. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:926329379] in Is it true... [t:77950987]...</cite> <quote>Ah right, I forgot to rant about needing to grind in that game too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
InfernalFive 08/20/19 7:38:06 PM #21:	BlackScythe0 posted... Ah right, I forgot to rant about needing to grind in that game too. The only time you needed to grind in FF12 was for endgame content like the superbosses and the judges. --- http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lyfabsU4xH1qzy531o1_500.jpg https://imgur.com/ggCrHk8 <cite>InfernalFive posted [p:926329588] in Is it true... [t:77950987]...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>Ah right, I forgot to rant about needing to grind in that game too.</quote> The only time you needed to grind in FF12 was for endgame content like the superbosses and the judges.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 08/20/19 8:14:50 PM #22:	InfernalFive posted... BlackScythe0 posted... Ah right, I forgot to rant about needing to grind in that game too. The only time you needed to grind in FF12 was for endgame content like the superbosses and the judges. Need is one of those relative terms in this context. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:926331186] in Is it true... [t:77950987]...</cite> <quote>InfernalFive posted...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>Ah right, I forgot to rant about needing to grind in that game too.</quote> The only time you needed to grind in FF12 was for endgame content like the superbosses and the judges.</quote> Need is one of those relative terms in this context.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mooreandrew58 08/20/19 10:03:02 PM #23:	BlackScythe0 posted... InfernalFive posted... BlackScythe0 posted... Ah right, I forgot to rant about needing to grind in that game too. The only time you needed to grind in FF12 was for endgame content like the superbosses and the judges. Need is one of those relative terms in this context. I kinda agree kinda dont. I woulda grinded to make it easier but instead I just used buff magic which i seldom ever felt the need to do in other final fantasy games before. A small degree in 10 maybe I forget. That and keeping weapons for the elemental effect and using those where it helped which ive literally never done in a ff before or after. --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" <cite>mooreandrew58 posted [p:926335903] in Is it true... [t:77950987]...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>InfernalFive posted...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>Ah right, I forgot to rant about needing to grind in that game too.</quote> The only time you needed to grind in FF12 was for endgame content like the superbosses and the judges.</quote> Need is one of those relative terms in this context.</quote> I kinda agree kinda dont. I woulda grinded to make it easier but instead I just used buff magic which i seldom ever felt the need to do in other final fantasy games before. A small degree in 10 maybe I forget. That and keeping weapons for the elemental effect and using those where it helped which ive literally never done in a ff before or after.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AllstarSniper32 08/20/19 10:08:13 PM #24:	BlackScythe0 posted... InfernalFive posted... BlackScythe0 posted... Ah right, I forgot to rant about needing to grind in that game too. The only time you needed to grind in FF12 was for endgame content like the superbosses and the judges. Need is one of those relative terms in this context. Nope, you can literally beat the entirety of FFXII without gaining a single level if you really want to. --- If the people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking systems, there would be a revolution before morning - Andrew Jackson <cite>AllstarSniper32 posted [p:926336110] in Is it true... [t:77950987]...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>InfernalFive posted...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>Ah right, I forgot to rant about needing to grind in that game too.</quote> The only time you needed to grind in FF12 was for endgame content like the superbosses and the judges.</quote> Need is one of those relative terms in this context.</quote> Nope, you can literally beat the entirety of FFXII without gaining a single level if you really want to.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mooreandrew58 08/20/19 10:23:59 PM #25:	AllstarSniper32 posted... BlackScythe0 posted... InfernalFive posted... BlackScythe0 posted... Ah right, I forgot to rant about needing to grind in that game too. The only time you needed to grind in FF12 was for endgame content like the superbosses and the judges. Need is one of those relative terms in this context. Nope, you can literally beat the entirety of FFXII without gaining a single level if you really want to. Well I heard yizamat can be beat at level 1 too. --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" <cite>mooreandrew58 posted [p:926336802] in Is it true... [t:77950987]...</cite> <quote>AllstarSniper32 posted...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>InfernalFive posted...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>Ah right, I forgot to rant about needing to grind in that game too.</quote> The only time you needed to grind in FF12 was for endgame content like the superbosses and the judges.</quote> Need is one of those relative terms in this context.</quote> Nope, you can literally beat the entirety of FFXII without gaining a single level if you really want to.</quote> Well I heard yizamat can be beat at level 1 too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AllstarSniper32 08/20/19 10:26:50 PM #26:	mooreandrew58 posted... Well I heard yizamat can be beat at level 1 too. Yup. --- If the people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking systems, there would be a revolution before morning - Andrew Jackson <cite>AllstarSniper32 posted [p:926336918] in Is it true... [t:77950987]...</cite> <quote>mooreandrew58 posted...</cite> <quote>Well I heard yizamat can be beat at level 1 too.</quote> Yup.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mooreandrew58 08/20/19 10:29:07 PM #27:	AllstarSniper32 posted... mooreandrew58 posted... Well I heard yizamat can be beat at level 1 too. Yup. I still need to beat him was working on it back in the original version but my memory card corrupted. Gonna be so much harder now thatt I have fixed jobs/classes in the zodiac version --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" <cite>mooreandrew58 posted [p:926337016] in Is it true... [t:77950987]...</cite> <quote>AllstarSniper32 posted...</cite> <quote>mooreandrew58 posted...</cite> <quote>Well I heard yizamat can be beat at level 1 too.</quote> Yup.</quote> I still need to beat him was working on it back in the original version but my memory card corrupted. Gonna be so much harder now thatt I have fixed jobs/classes in the zodiac version</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 08/20/19 10:40:37 PM #28:	AllstarSniper32 posted... BlackScythe0 posted... InfernalFive posted... BlackScythe0 posted... Ah right, I forgot to rant about needing to grind in that game too. The only time you needed to grind in FF12 was for endgame content like the superbosses and the judges. Need is one of those relative terms in this context. Nope, you can literally beat the entirety of FFXII without gaining a single level if you really want to. I wasn't doing a challenge run. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:926337454] in Is it true... [t:77950987]...</cite> <quote>AllstarSniper32 posted...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>InfernalFive posted...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>Ah right, I forgot to rant about needing to grind in that game too.</quote> The only time you needed to grind in FF12 was for endgame content like the superbosses and the judges.</quote> Need is one of those relative terms in this context.</quote> Nope, you can literally beat the entirety of FFXII without gaining a single level if you really want to.</quote> I wasn't doing a challenge run.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mooreandrew58 08/20/19 10:44:10 PM #29:	BlackScythe0 posted... AllstarSniper32 posted... BlackScythe0 posted... InfernalFive posted... BlackScythe0 posted... Ah right, I forgot to rant about needing to grind in that game too. The only time you needed to grind in FF12 was for endgame content like the superbosses and the judges. Need is one of those relative terms in this context. Nope, you can literally beat the entirety of FFXII without gaining a single level if you really want to. I wasn't doing a challenge run. Well still I didnt have to grind and I suck at strategy. And didnt use a guide. I only grinded for high level hunts --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" <cite>mooreandrew58 posted [p:926337587] in Is it true... [t:77950987]...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>AllstarSniper32 posted...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>InfernalFive posted...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>Ah right, I forgot to rant about needing to grind in that game too.</quote> The only time you needed to grind in FF12 was for endgame content like the superbosses and the judges.</quote> Need is one of those relative terms in this context.</quote> Nope, you can literally beat the entirety of FFXII without gaining a single level if you really want to.</quote> I wasn't doing a challenge run.</quote> Well still I didnt have to grind and I suck at strategy. And didnt use a guide. I only grinded for high level hunts</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 08/20/19 11:06:02 PM #30:	mooreandrew58 posted... BlackScythe0 posted... AllstarSniper32 posted... BlackScythe0 posted... InfernalFive posted... BlackScythe0 posted... Ah right, I forgot to rant about needing to grind in that game too. The only time you needed to grind in FF12 was for endgame content like the superbosses and the judges. Need is one of those relative terms in this context. Nope, you can literally beat the entirety of FFXII without gaining a single level if you really want to. I wasn't doing a challenge run. Well still I didnt have to grind and I suck at strategy. And didnt use a guide. I only grinded for high level hunts I dunno. I just remember having issues if I didn't farm up gold. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:926338462] in Is it true... [t:77950987]...</cite> <quote>mooreandrew58 posted...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>AllstarSniper32 posted...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>InfernalFive posted...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>Ah right, I forgot to rant about needing to grind in that game too.</quote> The only time you needed to grind in FF12 was for endgame content like the superbosses and the judges.</quote> Need is one of those relative terms in this context.</quote> Nope, you can literally beat the entirety of FFXII without gaining a single level if you really want to.</quote> I wasn't doing a challenge run.</quote> Well still I didnt have to grind and I suck at strategy. And didnt use a guide. I only grinded for high level hunts</quote> I dunno. I just remember having issues if I didn't farm up gold.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mooreandrew58 08/20/19 11:31:18 PM #31:	BlackScythe0 posted... mooreandrew58 posted... BlackScythe0 posted... AllstarSniper32 posted... BlackScythe0 posted... InfernalFive posted... BlackScythe0 posted... Ah right, I forgot to rant about needing to grind in that game too. The only time you needed to grind in FF12 was for endgame content like the superbosses and the judges. Need is one of those relative terms in this context. Nope, you can literally beat the entirety of FFXII without gaining a single level if you really want to. I wasn't doing a challenge run. Well still I didnt have to grind and I suck at strategy. And didnt use a guide. I only grinded for high level hunts I dunno. I just remember having issues if I didn't farm up gold. I cant recall if I farmed for loot to sell. But it definitely wasnt for levels. I think I did farm for loot a little but not so much so I felt it was tedious But i farm for money in every jrpg cause i just have to have the best weapons money can get at all times. Even though I was told not to I farmed for enough money to get multiple silver swords in the original final fantasy. --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" <cite>mooreandrew58 posted [p:926339337] in Is it true... [t:77950987]...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>mooreandrew58 posted...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>AllstarSniper32 posted...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>InfernalFive posted...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>Ah right, I forgot to rant about needing to grind in that game too.</quote> The only time you needed to grind in FF12 was for endgame content like the superbosses and the judges.</quote> Need is one of those relative terms in this context.</quote> Nope, you can literally beat the entirety of FFXII without gaining a single level if you really want to.</quote> I wasn't doing a challenge run.</quote> Well still I didnt have to grind and I suck at strategy. And didnt use a guide. I only grinded for high level hunts</quote> I dunno. I just remember having issues if I didn't farm up gold.</quote> I cant recall if I farmed for loot to sell. But it definitely wasnt for levels. I think I did farm for loot a little but not so much so I felt it was tedious But i farm for money in every jrpg cause i just have to have the best weapons money can get at all times. Even though I was told not to I farmed for enough money to get multiple silver swords in the original final fantasy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bulbasaur 08/21/19 12:59:17 AM #32:	BlackScythe0 posted... FF12 has terrible customization. Early there can be some diversification but by the end everyone will have the same spells and access to the same armor. There are no interesting class specific abilities you would normally see in the series for blue mage, monk, dragoon or such. It's very generic. it's called the zodiac job system, and it literally gives people traditional ff jobs. you should play the remaster. --- bulba buh buh <cite>Bulbasaur posted [p:926341988] in Is it true... [t:77950987]...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote> FF12 has terrible customization. Early there can be some diversification but by the end everyone will have the same spells and access to the same armor. There are no interesting class specific abilities you would normally see in the series for blue mage, monk, dragoon or such. It's very generic.</quote> it's called the zodiac job system, and it literally gives people traditional ff jobs. you should play the remaster.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bulbasaur 08/21/19 1:00:34 AM #33:	AllstarSniper32 posted... Congrats, you posted a mini game that doesn't represent the story as a whole. i mean not really the reason the entire game exists is because it's just fanservice. like not even exaggerating, that's the entire reason they made it. --- bulba buh buh <cite>Bulbasaur posted [p:926342027] in Is it true... [t:77950987]...</cite> <quote>AllstarSniper32 posted...</cite> <quote> Congrats, you posted a mini game that doesn't represent the story as a whole. </quote> i mean not really the reason the entire game exists is because it's just fanservice. like not even exaggerating, that's the entire reason they made it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 08/21/19 1:04:22 AM #34:	Bulbasaur posted... BlackScythe0 posted... FF12 has terrible customization. Early there can be some diversification but by the end everyone will have the same spells and access to the same armor. There are no interesting class specific abilities you would normally see in the series for blue mage, monk, dragoon or such. It's very generic. it's called the zodiac job system, and it literally gives people traditional ff jobs. you should play the remaster. I had tried to play it again like 5-6 years ago to see if my hate was deserved. And it was, every aspect of the game aside from graphics was bad. I'll look into this zodiac job thing, but unless it brings in some substantial changes I don't see how it can fix this game. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:926342133] in Is it true... [t:77950987]...</cite> <quote>Bulbasaur posted...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote> FF12 has terrible customization. Early there can be some diversification but by the end everyone will have the same spells and access to the same armor. There are no interesting class specific abilities you would normally see in the series for blue mage, monk, dragoon or such. It's very generic.</quote> it's called the zodiac job system, and it literally gives people traditional ff jobs. you should play the remaster.</quote> I had tried to play it again like 5-6 years ago to see if my hate was deserved. And it was, every aspect of the game aside from graphics was bad. I'll look into this zodiac job thing, but unless it brings in some substantial changes I don't see how it can fix this game.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mooreandrew58 08/21/19 1:29:36 AM #35:	BlackScythe0 posted... Bulbasaur posted... BlackScythe0 posted... FF12 has terrible customization. Early there can be some diversification but by the end everyone will have the same spells and access to the same armor. There are no interesting class specific abilities you would normally see in the series for blue mage, monk, dragoon or such. It's very generic. it's called the zodiac job system, and it literally gives people traditional ff jobs. you should play the remaster. I had tried to play it again like 5-6 years ago to see if my hate was deserved. And it was, every aspect of the game aside from graphics was bad. I'll look into this zodiac job thing, but unless it brings in some substantial changes I don't see how it can fix this game. Some people liked the changes some didnt. I liked having everyone know white magic. Having everyone be exactly the same was a self control issue imo. Though aint gonna lie I lost that self control on some of the harder hunts... But what hinders me in zodiac is being forced to stick to what I choose cause even though people say balthier is the best candidate for a white mage I just cant bring myself to make him one cause it doesnt match with how i see balthier. I also have this compulsion (personal problem I know) to make use of every job which means i can't have two of anything. I dont hate zodiac age though. I just find it a tad more difficult due to being forced into roles. So far I still think 5 and tactics have done the whole choosing job classes aspect the best. --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" <cite>mooreandrew58 posted [p:926342781] in Is it true... [t:77950987]...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>Bulbasaur posted...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote> FF12 has terrible customization. Early there can be some diversification but by the end everyone will have the same spells and access to the same armor. There are no interesting class specific abilities you would normally see in the series for blue mage, monk, dragoon or such. It's very generic.</quote> it's called the zodiac job system, and it literally gives people traditional ff jobs. you should play the remaster.</quote> I had tried to play it again like 5-6 years ago to see if my hate was deserved. And it was, every aspect of the game aside from graphics was bad. I'll look into this zodiac job thing, but unless it brings in some substantial changes I don't see how it can fix this game.</quote> Some people liked the changes some didnt. I liked having everyone know white magic. Having everyone be exactly the same was a self control issue imo. Though aint gonna lie I lost that self control on some of the harder hunts... But what hinders me in zodiac is being forced to stick to what I choose cause even though people say balthier is the best candidate for a white mage I just cant bring myself to make him one cause it doesnt match with how i see balthier. I also have this compulsion (personal problem I know) to make use of every job which means i can't have two of anything. I dont hate zodiac age though. I just find it a tad more difficult due to being forced into roles. So far I still think 5 and tactics have done the whole choosing job classes aspect the best.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
green dragon 08/21/19 1:44:23 PM #36:	I liked the game. I haven't played many mmos(maybe like a total of 3 hours), but it did seem like an mmo --- . <cite>green dragon posted [p:926360932] in Is it true... [t:77950987]...</cite> <quote>I liked the game. I haven't played many mmos(maybe like a total of 3 hours), but it did seem like an mmo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AllstarSniper32 08/21/19 7:36:47 PM #37:	Bulbasaur posted... AllstarSniper32 posted... Congrats, you posted a mini game that doesn't represent the story as a whole. i mean not really the reason the entire game exists is because it's just fanservice. like not even exaggerating, that's the entire reason they made it. Even if it is, the main story isn't fanservice. AllstarSniper32 posted... The story itself isn't fanservice. Which is exactly what I said. --- If the people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking systems, there would be a revolution before morning - Andrew Jackson <cite>AllstarSniper32 posted [p:926375921] in Is it true... [t:77950987]...</cite> <quote>Bulbasaur posted...</cite> <quote>AllstarSniper32 posted...</cite> <quote> Congrats, you posted a mini game that doesn't represent the story as a whole. </quote> i mean not really the reason the entire game exists is because it's just fanservice. like not even exaggerating, that's the entire reason they made it.</quote> Even if it is, the main story isn't fanservice. AllstarSniper32 posted...</cite> <quote>The story itself isn't fanservice.</quote> Which is exactly what I said.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 08/22/19 12:48:51 AM #38:	Bulbasaur posted... AllstarSniper32 posted... Congrats, you posted a mini game that doesn't represent the story as a whole. i mean not really the reason the entire game exists is because it's just fanservice. like not even exaggerating, that's the entire reason they made it. And it ended up with the best combat the series has seen. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:926387676] in Is it true... [t:77950987]...</cite> <quote>Bulbasaur posted...</cite> <quote>AllstarSniper32 posted...</cite> <quote> Congrats, you posted a mini game that doesn't represent the story as a whole. </quote> i mean not really the reason the entire game exists is because it's just fanservice. like not even exaggerating, that's the entire reason they made it.</quote> And it ended up with the best combat the series has seen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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