Poll of the Day > How many hours of work are worth a needle stick?

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Lets say you have the option to get blood drawn, and they agree to pay you your hourly wage for a certain number of hours.

How many hours makes it worth it to you?

Lets say in this case they are taking a single vial and youll be in the chair for 5 min. Your boss is totally cool with it.
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Ummm... You need to be clearer with the question.

Like, how much blood are we talking here? Do you mean that they'll pay me for as many hours as I can stand giving blood? Or how much they'd have to pay me before giving blood once? Does giving blood preclude my normal work-day (assuming I can't give it on a day off) or am I just taking the time to give the blood off then going back to work? Or even doing it on an off day?

My blood probably isn't the best quality. I'm not a blood expert or anything but, if a vampire bit me, they'd probably get a bunch of fat and salt in addition to the normal stuff. Got no blood-born illnesses that I'm aware of; but there are proooobably better donors than me. That aside though... I'd gladly take time off to donate *some* blood, especially if I'm getting paid; but I couldn't donate blood all day. I need that stuff to live! My bigger concern is actually not pay-related but, rather, if my boss would fire me or not for taking the time off to do such a thing regardless of the pay.
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Unbridled9 posted...

Ummm... You need to be clearer with the question.

Like, how much blood are we talking here? Do you mean that they'll pay me for as many hours as I can stand giving blood? Or how much they'd have to pay me before giving blood once? Does giving blood preclude my normal work-day (assuming I can't give it on a day off) or am I just taking the time to give the blood off then going back to work? Or even doing it on an off day?

My blood probably isn't the best quality. I'm not a blood expert or anything but, if a vampire bit me, they'd probably get a bunch of fat and salt in addition to the normal stuff. Got no blood-born illnesses that I'm aware of; but there are proooobably better donors than me. That aside though... I'd gladly take time off to donate *some* blood, especially if I'm getting paid; but I couldn't donate blood all day. I need that stuff to live! My bigger concern is actually not pay-related but, rather, if my boss would fire me or not for taking the time off to do such a thing regardless of the pay.

Sure, more specifics

Lets say in this case they are taking a single vial and youll be in the chair for 5 min. Your boss is totally cool with it.

I will edit the op to reflect this.
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Depends on the distance from work.
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I don't understand your scenario. Why are they taking blood? Why are they paying me for my time/blood?

Also, is my employer paying me for my time or am I being paid by the lab?
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Nah I like my job so I wouldn't be interested in doing that. Besides I have O- blood so I already donate a decent amount, whenever they need it at least. Turns out they hate using O- blood because its the only blood O- people can get, whereas everyone else can receive at least one more kind. So they save it for when people with O- blood need transfusions or emergencies where they cant determine blood type ahead of time. So they throw out most of what they have when it spoils!

That has nothing to do with what you asked, just a fun fact.
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I do it for free every eight weeks, schedule-permitting.

Far-Queue posted...

I don't understand your scenario. Why are they taking blood? Why are they paying me for my time/blood?

Also, is my employer paying me for my time or am I being paid by the lab?

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Depends on the distance from work.

Jesus fucking christ you people are just willfully bad at hypotheticals.
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Basically, imagine you're in a situation where they pay you for donating blood (like they used to, before blood became less useful and paying for blood mostly only became a thing for major plasma donation locations).

How much money would they need to offer to pay before you're willing to give up 5 minutes of your time and a pint of your blood?



Troll_Police_ posted...

Jesus fucking christ you people are just willfully bad at hypotheticals.

You did kind of overcomplicate the question by reducing it to hourly pay versus straight monetary value. And you kind of rendered the question harder for some people to answer by not establishing exactly how much blood was being taken (though I personally assumed you just mean the usual amount, which is about one pint).

Then, of course, there are other complications. Like, do they offer reassurances that your blood won't be tested for anything other than diseases that might complicate transfusion, or do they leave the door open for the government to take a sample and use it to DNA type you for future criminal purposes? These are concerns some people would absolutely have in that scenario.


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I dont understand the question
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

Basically, imagine you're in a situation where they pay you for donating blood (like they used to, before blood became less useful and paying for blood mostly only became a thing for major plasma donation locations).

How much money would they need to offer to pay before you're willing to give up 5 minutes of your time and a pint of your blood?

Troll_Police_ posted...

Jesus fucking christ you people are just willfully bad at hypotheticals.

You did kind of overcomplicate the question by reducing it to hourly pay versus straight monetary value. And you kind of rendered the question harder for some people to answer by not establishing exactly how much blood was being taken (though I personally assumed you just mean the usual amount, which is about one pint).

Then, of course, there are other complications. Like, do they offer reassurances that your blood won't be tested for anything other than diseases that might complicate transfusion, or do they leave the door open for the government to take a sample and use it to DNA type you for future criminal purposes? These are concerns some people would absolutely have in that scenario.

I actually did specify 1 vial after the first post. That was a valid point.

The rest of it is irrelevant to a hypothetical situation. Yall mother fuckers are just needlessly pedantic
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MrMelodramatic posted...

I dont understand the question

thats probably because you dont have a job.
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MrMelodramatic posted...

I dont understand the question

The scenario seems to be operating under the assumption that everybody has crippling trypanophobia and the only way they'd let themselves be electively poked with a needle is if they're being paid for it.

_AdjI_ posted...

MrMelodramatic posted...

I dont understand the question

The scenario seems to be operating under the assumption that everybody has crippling trypanophobia and the only way they'd let themselves be electively poked with a needle is if they're being paid for it.

Its operating under the assumption that people like to be paid for their services. Seeing as how all but one person was able to assign a number of hours to it, they DO like being paid for their services.

I know, reading comprehension is hard when 90% of the shit you read and say is copypasted from a Wikipedia article. Life is a struggle for you homie, but youll get through it.
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This topic is stupid and written awfully.

Id do it for free. I do it 3-4 times a year for free. Its no big deal.
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Troll_Police_ posted...

Its operating under the assumption that people like to be paid for their services.

It's operating under a poor understanding of that. Why would I not accept the maximum amount they would pay (implied to be 2+ workdays) when it's on the table? There's no reason expressed why you should choose a lower amount.

If you meant how much we consider it worth, then you need to clear up what other potential costs I would be taking on by agreeing. I could think it's only worth 5 minutes pay, but if I have to travel so far that I couldn't work that day then I'd require a full day's pay.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Troll_Police_ posted...

Its operating under the assumption that people like to be paid for their services.

It's operating under a poor understanding of that. Why would I not accept the maximum amount they would pay (implied to be 2+ workdays) when it's on the table? There's no reason expressed why you should choose a lower amount.

If you meant how much we consider it worth, then you need to clear up what other potential costs I would be taking on by agreeing. I could think it's only worth 5 minutes pay, but if I have to travel so far that I couldn't work that day then I'd require a full day's pay.

Me: you find a dollar on the ground do you pick it up?

you guys: well it depends. with the plight of latinos in america i just dont know if blah blah blah and also with the federal reserve and all blah blah blah. also, how dirty is the dollar? what year is it? whats the serial number? i have to know ALL of these details before i can ever make a decision because i do not understand hypotheticals

I'll rephrase the question for TC.

There is a blood drive going on in the parking lot of the place you work at. Your employer is a big advocate of blood donations. He is willing to incentivize his employees to donate with extra hours added to their paycheck. How many bonus hours added to your paycheck would it take for you to donate your blood?
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Steven010702 posted...

I'll rephrase the question for TC.

There is a blood drive going on in the parking lot of the place you work at. Your employer is a big advocate of blood donations. He is willing to incentivize his employees to donate with extra hours added to their paycheck. How many bonus hours added to your paycheck would it take for you to donate your blood?

in other words

How many hours of work are worth a needle stick?

you said the exact same thing i did, with more words. i swear, the internet ruined hypotheticals. everyone wants to seem like an intellectual so all you get in response to them nowadays is

Troll_Police_ posted...

Its operating under the assumption that people like to be paid for their services.

And when the thing you're calling a "service" is described as a "needle stick," and later clarified as a vial of blood that takes 5 minutes to collect, the decision to call that a service suggests a certain degree of trypanophobia. Especially where "no amount of money would be worth it" is listed as the first option.

In practice, the closest real-world parallel to the situation you're describing is a blood donation, which requires about 1-1.5 hours in the clinic on top of travel time and costs, plus you lose enough blood to actually impair you for the rest of the day. Even then, though, it's that 1-2 hours of time commitment that I might say is worth compensating, not the fact that you get poked (twice!).

Steven010702 posted...

I'll rephrase the question for TC.

There is a blood drive going on in the parking lot of the place you work at. Your employer is a big advocate of blood donations. He is willing to incentivize his employees to donate with extra hours added to their paycheck. How many bonus hours added to your paycheck would it take for you to donate your blood?

If I know my employer's happy to pay any value then I take the maximum, otherwise I take what I lose in time (fuck all).
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Troll_Police_ posted...

Lets say in this case they are taking a single vial and youll be in the chair for 5 min. Your boss is totally cool with it.

Oh, like any ol' blood test? That's a freebie, I don't care.
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_AdjI_ posted...

Troll_Police_ posted...

Its operating under the assumption that people like to be paid for their services.

And when the thing you're calling a "service" is described as a "needle stick," and later clarified as a vial of blood that takes 5 minutes to collect, the decision to call that a service suggests a certain degree of trypanophobia. Especially where "no amount of money would be worth it" is listed as the first option.

In practice, the closest real-world parallel to the situation you're describing is a blood donation, which requires about 1-1.5 hours in the clinic on top of travel time and costs, plus you lose enough blood to actually impair you for the rest of the day. Even then, though, it's that 1-2 hours of time commitment that I might say is worth compensating, not the fact that you get poked (twice!).