Board 8 > Henry Cavill leaves DCEU

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https://comicbook.com/dc/2018/09/12/henry-cavill-exits-superman-dc-extended-universe-movies/

They should've left Superman dead, I guess!
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Full DC movie universe reboot let's go.

They're focusing on Supergirl instead apparently.
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Looks like he left to be Geralt of Rivia.
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How many failures will it take for them to realize that it's not their actors causing the problems
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abdou posted...

They're focusing on Supergirl instead apparently.

I don't see how you can reasonably focus on a character whose identity is defined by Superman without Superman, but I guess I've never ruined a billion dollar franchise before, either.
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Anagram posted...

abdou posted...

They're focusing on Supergirl instead apparently.

I don't see how you can reasonably focus on a character whose identity is defined by Superman without Superman, but I guess I've never ruined a billion dollar franchise before, either.

Or watched Supergirl.
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It's true, I haven't.
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hes way behind on things. the fans left years ago.
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scarletspeed7 posted...

Anagram posted...

abdou posted...

They're focusing on Supergirl instead apparently.

I don't see how you can reasonably focus on a character whose identity is defined by Superman without Superman, but I guess I've never ruined a billion dollar franchise before, either.

Or watched Supergirl.

The idea to make a Supergirl movie just screams its working on TV, lets do that, without any understanding of why it is working when their movies arent. When your film division is copying your tv division out of sheer desperation you know youve hit the bottom of the barrel.
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Yes because using one franchise's main character is equal to copying the 5 franchises on one network simultaneously.
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Oh no

How terrible
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So they lost their Superman and Batman.

Quality franchise and use of it. I cannot believe how badly they have fucked this up. I don't think this universe is salvageable now. Unless they just Flashpoint everything away and start over. But then who gives a shit, because they've proven themselves incapable.
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Please.

Please god let Shazam succeed and help them realize they can just make standalone movies.

Please god let Shazam be good. And make money.
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I'd rather Shazam fail as well so they have to finally realize that they're the ones fucking up.

Hire real comic book writers, and pay closer attention to the source material. It shouldn't be that difficult.
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AquaArcane posted...

I'd rather Shazam fail as well so they have to finally realize that they're the ones fucking up.

Hire real comic book writers, and pay closer attention to the source material. It shouldn't be that difficult.

Shazam is under an entirely different group of producers.

And let's not forget Geoff Johns, a real comic writer, was the creative mind behind the last several DC movies.
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As much as I prefer Marvel to DC, this kind of thing still sucks and makes me sad. I want the DCEU to succeed. More well crafted movies on both sides lead to competition and even better quality.
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AquaArcane posted...

How many failures will it take for them to realize that it's not their actors causing the problems

I think this is more like the actors realizing there is a problem and jumping ship.

FakeAccount3000 posted...

The idea to make a Supergirl movie just screams its working on TV, lets do that, without any understanding of why it is working when their movies arent.

is supergirl working that well on tv?
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Make a Superman movie that is cheerful and full of hope.

That is all they literally have to do now. This shit isn't hard. Make me happy to see Superman saving the god damn day.
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Wait.

Apparently Henry Cavill's agent tweeted that he's still Superman and WB will be making a statement.

What the fuck?
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Would love to see Marvel pick up and use both Cavill and Affleck successfully.
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Wedge Antilles posted...

Would love to see Marvel pick up and use both Cavill and Affleck successfully.

Would love for Marvel to not pick up either and for the Astro City Cinematic Universe to start instead.
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scarletspeed7 posted...

And let's not forget Geoff Johns, a real comic writer, was the creative mind behind the last several DC movies.

Eh, how much involvement with the movies did Johns have? Doesn't seem like he had any presence in the DCEU. I feel like they just used him as a name to inspire hope, while not actually utilizing him in any meaningful way... like writing.
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AquaArcane posted...

scarletspeed7 posted...

And let's not forget Geoff Johns, a real comic writer, was the creative mind behind the last several DC movies.

Eh, how much involvement with the movies did Johns have? Doesn't seem like he had much of a presence in the DCEU. I feel like they just used him as a name to inspire hope, while not actually utilizing him in any meaningful way... like writing.

He was extremely involved in BvS and Justice League. He worked on the script and was in the room.
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He must have had his hands heavily tied by the studio. I don't believe he had creative freedom.

Besides, he's not the person I'd choose to write Batman or Superman.
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All they need to do is watch the new Death of Superman, and watch this youtube video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot02hMJ6Hkk" data-time="

There, perfect Superman.
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I refuse to believe Johns had any meaningful input. The movies are against everything he stands for.
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I thought that universe was dead already
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Anagram posted...

I don't see how you can reasonably focus on a character whose identity is defined by Superman without Superman, but I guess I've never ruined a billion dollar franchise before, either.

Well, theres a Venom movie coming with no relation to Spider-Man
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they should remake superman as a one-punch man story
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Jakyl25 posted...

Anagram posted...

I don't see how you can reasonably focus on a character whose identity is defined by Superman without Superman, but I guess I've never ruined a billion dollar franchise before, either.

Well, theres a Venom movie coming with no relation to Spider-Man

Thats not a point in their favor.
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I think you should hold less cynical detachment about this sort of thing and maybe just focus on the positives of the franchises and find the products from said franchises that appeal to you. I don't necessarily enjoy DC movies right now, but I can read plenty of comics that I enjoy.
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scarletspeed7 posted...

I think you should hold less cynical detachment about this sort of thing and maybe just focus on the positives of the franchises and find the products from said franchises that appeal to you. I don't necessarily enjoy DC movies right now, but I can read plenty of comics that I enjoy.

But a book that takes maybe 1/12th the time to read compared to watching the movies is 1/3 the price of a movie ticket.
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Then you're choosing to take the product that clearly isn't as good because higher quality products cost more.
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scarletspeed7 posted...

Yes because using one franchise's main character is equal to copying the 5 franchises on one network simultaneously.

Except shes not the main Superman franchise character
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FakeAccount3000 posted...

scarletspeed7 posted...

Yes because using one franchise's main character is equal to copying the 5 franchises on one network simultaneously.

Except shes not the main Superman franchise character

She's the main character of the CW show you were complaining about copying. That's why the show is called Black Canary - no wait, it's fucking Supergirl. Supergirl is a franchise for CW. Not Superman.
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I feel like once GLC comes out we will be able to compare it directly to the GL movie and tell exactly how much input Johns had in his "creative officer" role versus being the head writer.

Sucks to hear about Cavill, I feel like he was doing a great job with what they gave him and would have been perfect with the right material.
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Yeah, I don't know how anybody could ever believe Johns' had real input after GL.
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scarletspeed7 posted...

Then you're choosing to take the product that clearly isn't as good because higher quality products cost more.

Yeah but why can't I get something that is quality and also a reasonable price?
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scarletspeed7 posted...

I think you should hold less cynical detachment about this sort of thing

why?
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Because life is so much more fun when you enjoy the things around you and share that overflowing, unbridled joy with others
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From WB:

"While no decisions have been made regarding any upcoming Superman films, we've always had great respect for and a great relationship with Henry Cavill, and that remains unchanged."

... Well then.
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scarletspeed7 posted...

Because life is so much more fun when you enjoy the things around you and share that overflowing, unbridled joy with others

sharing joy about the things you love IS fun, but being cynical/critical about things you don't love as much makes you appreciate the things you DO love even more. it makes life a far richer experience.

in the case of this subject, i appreciate the MCU that much more because i know how difficult it is to make a cinematic universe by looking at what a clusterfuck the DCEU is. hell, i even appreciate the DCEU to some extent. there's good stuff to be found in it, and at least it didn't crash and burn after one movie like the universal monsters cinematic universe.

if you're ONLY cynical and negative then yeah, something's wrong, but i wouldn't say that applies to anagram. i see him make topics about stuff he likes often enough.
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This is the second time reports have come out of actors leaving that ended up being false.

Sounds to me like there's an agenda out there.
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To be fair, DC didn't outright say that Henry Cavill was still going to be Superman.
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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

Make a Superman movie that is cheerful and full of hope.

That is all they literally have to do now. This shit isn't hard. Make me happy to see Superman saving the god damn day.

Is that not what Superman Returns tried?
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i liked man of steel tbqh. don't always need to see the "it's a bird! it's a plane!" take on superman.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

but being cynical/critical about things you don't love as much makes you appreciate the things you DO love even more. it makes life a far richer experience.

Critical, yes. Cynical, no. I'm critical always, and optimistic every time nonetheless.
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