Current Events > NFL Ratings continue to tank, way down for 2018 opener

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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/09/07/ratings-way-down-for-nfl-opener/

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Trump never should have made the kneeling thing a political issue
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Lol at people pretending the NFL is bad now instead of being bad for years

The power of dog whistles and political grandstanding
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Giant_Aspirin posted...

Trump never should have made the kneeling thing a political issue

He needed SOMETHING to distract from the dumpster fire of his presidency

I think people are really starting to realize how damaging this game is to your brain, no matter what position you play unless you're like a kicker or something.

And all the newer rules being put in the game to protect player safety, while good for the players, probably detract from viewer experience. Especially the older ones who miss when you could literally launch yourself at people helmet first.

Also all the play reviewing can really fuck up the flow of the game, and still no one knows what a catch is or not.
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Weird. I thought turning the NFL into a political quagmire would be good for it.

Does this count as get woke go broke? Or does it not count because it's a sensitive subject for the right?
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I mean, that game was fucking miserable and started like, an hour later than it was supposed to.

I watched women's tennis instead.
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Yeah its the kneeling ruining the NFL, and totally not refs being confused about consitutes a catch or a roughing the passer penalty with these game changes. And greenzone is a genius idea along with more commerical breaks or stopping the game to let an ad air while the camera is showing the players looking around

Exactly
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I don't have enough time anymore, only going to stick to Patriots and really big games now
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Stewman_Magoo posted...

Weird. I thought turning the NFL into a political quagmire would be good for it.

Does this count as get woke go broke? Or does it not count because it's a sensitive subject for the right?

What I don't understand is why people want to listen to the advice of a football player who isn't even very intelligent or good at the game. Wasn't he like 4-13 before he got benched? Usually to be influential as an athlete, you have to be good... and KP is just garbage.
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Two_Dee posted...

I think people are really starting to realize how damaging this game is to your brain, no matter what position you play unless you're like a kicker or something.

It's brain damaging even for the spectators.

Are these numbers continuing to be dishonest and not count streaming views?
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Two_Dee posted...

Also all the play reviewing can really fuck up the flow of the game

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CK*** not KP
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People blaming refs or kneeling are just ignoring the reality of cord cutters.

If you look at the other shows from the Thursday night opener that still exist, they're also down.
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Didnt help that the game was delayed
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Everyone should stop watching all pro sports tbh.

Tank those whiny ass bitches who cry for millions just cause they can play with a ball.

Meanwhile, teachers get paid a little more than the kids flipping burgers.

NFL and that helmet rule makes the sport flag football to begin with.
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The game itself wasnt entertaining and I would have switched if I didnt have Ryan/Julio in fantasy.
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Anteaterking posted...

People blaming refs or kneeling are just ignoring the reality of cord cutters.

If you look at the other shows from the Thursday night opener that still exist, they're also down.

Football is on network TV
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Thursday game.
Rain delay.
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TheGoldenEel posted...

Anteaterking posted...

People blaming refs or kneeling are just ignoring the reality of cord cutters.

If you look at the other shows from the Thursday night opener that still exist, they're also down.

Football is on network TV

Which is accessible through many streaming/alternative services.
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TheGoldenEel posted...

Football is on network TV

Most people who I know without cable don't use antennas either.
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Also Thursday games are stupid outside of opening night and Dallas/Detroit home games on Thanksgiving and I hope the rest fail.
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Rain delay and Serena was on.
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Thrillwell posted...

Everyone should stop watching all pro sports tbh.

Tank those whiny ass bitches who cry for millions just cause they can play with a ball.

Meanwhile, teachers get paid a little more than the kids flipping burgers.

NFL and that helmet rule makes the sport flag football to begin with.

The fuck you trying to say here?
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Thanks Trump

Those who want to attribute the NFL's ratings decline solely to politics should note that its decline here is significantly less than that of NASCAR
http://awfulannouncing.com/fox/fox-nascar-viewership-dropped-19-percent-from-2017-29-percent-from-2016.html
It's about on par with the viewership decline for the MLB All-Star game, where as I recall they held a pre-game ceremony honoring purple heart recipients
http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2018/07/mlb-all-star-game-ratings-record-low/
MLS's All-Star game was down much more (likely a result of the matchup, but...)
http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2018/08/mls-ratings-all-star-espn-univision/
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Chewisbeast posted...

Didnt help that the game was delayed

Winner.
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To be fair, it wasn't a great game. I still watched most of it tho.

People who are actually football fans will keep watching football. I said this last year. They don't give a shit about the politics surrounding it. They just watch the game for the entertainment it still provides.
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Wil_Knights posted...

Stewman_Magoo posted...

Weird. I thought turning the NFL into a political quagmire would be good for it.

Does this count as get woke go broke? Or does it not count because it's a sensitive subject for the right?

What I don't understand is why people want to listen to the advice of a football player who isn't even very intelligent or good at the game. Wasn't he like 4-13 before he got benched? Usually to be influential as an athlete, you have to be good... and KP is just garbage.

This ^^^

My problem aint with the message being presented. My issue lies with Kap being the spokesman of "sacrificing" his career when his career was already in the crapper anyway.

Foles wasn't hot last night.

Without Wentz and Jeffery, the Eagles offense wasn't as dynamic or exciting. Having Jeffery out there is huge because it can open up the whole playbook.

Besides that, a lot of these players on both teams barely played preseason. They were all rusty as hell.
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Yeah no it's not like 26 flags and constant commercials/advertising is a factor or anything

Nor nobody knowing what a catch is still
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These topics are just so intellectually dishonest that its crazy

The NFL preseason like doubled the viewership of the Stanley Cup finals. The league is fine. Its cord cutting that is hurting numbers.
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Nufinzorz posted...

Yeah no it's not like 26 flags and constant commercials/advertising is a factor or anything

Nor nobody knowing what a catch is still

Also this, omg
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People who still do fantasy football will still watch and not care about the political aspect. That's why many people I know watch solely cause of their fantasy teams.

ratings for literally everything on regular tv are up, cord cutters are growing.
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XXmiznatorXX posted...

Wil_Knights posted...

Stewman_Magoo posted...

Weird. I thought turning the NFL into a political quagmire would be good for it.

Does this count as get woke go broke? Or does it not count because it's a sensitive subject for the right?

What I don't understand is why people want to listen to the advice of a football player who isn't even very intelligent or good at the game. Wasn't he like 4-13 before he got benched? Usually to be influential as an athlete, you have to be good... and KP is just garbage.

This ^^^

My problem aint with the message being presented. My issue lies with Kap being the spokesman of "sacrificing" his career when his career was already in the crapper anyway.

I feel like he became an activist as a way to salvage his career and still make money.
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Makes me wonder how the owners got so rich because they seem stupid to me and I'm not going to watch and perhaps save them from their stupidity.
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So what. Sports deserve to go down, they are all overpaid.
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too many penalties
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XXmiznatorXX posted...

People who still do fantasy football will still watch and not care about the political aspect. That's why many people I know watch solely cause of their fantasy teams.

Tbh, this is the only reason I started watching NFL again, and I live in Steeler country.
I had stopped watching for the better part of four or five years, in favor of European football.

Then when people at work dragged me into a fantasy league last year I started watching again.
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Two_Dee posted...

And all the newer rules being put in the game to protect player safety, while good for the players, probably detract from viewer experience. Especially the older ones who miss when you could literally launch yourself at people helmet first.

That's it for me, really. Clearly I don't want anyone to get concussions or be seriously hurt or paralyzed or something, but there are so many new rules in the name of safety that it takes a lot of the fun out of it. Not just that they can't do certain types of plays, but when they *do* have their head at the wrong angle, then you have to deal with a penalty and it just slows the game down and obviously is super annoying if its against your team.
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Wil_Knights posted...

XXmiznatorXX posted...

Wil_Knights posted...

Stewman_Magoo posted...

Weird. I thought turning the NFL into a political quagmire would be good for it.

Does this count as get woke go broke? Or does it not count because it's a sensitive subject for the right?

What I don't understand is why people want to listen to the advice of a football player who isn't even very intelligent or good at the game. Wasn't he like 4-13 before he got benched? Usually to be influential as an athlete, you have to be good... and KP is just garbage.

This ^^^

My problem aint with the message being presented. My issue lies with Kap being the spokesman of "sacrificing" his career when his career was already in the crapper anyway.

I feel like he became an activist as a way to salvage his career and still make money.

that's pretty much what he did. he's getting millions in endorsements from nike alone, yet alone the last 2 years. When he was hot as a QB, he was known for blowing money on dumb stuff and being a party boy....that's why I can't take him seriously presently as an activist.

many random rules that who knows what the fuck is going on?

holding calls.....the most random rule ever that seems to be called specifically to stop momentum or give momentum to another team. it seems to exist just to the refs can control the game. theres literally holding at the line of scrimmage during every play.

no one knows what a catch is

questionable refs

constant reviews, half of which they don't get right.

let me repeat....WHAT IS A CATCH!!!

commercials.

commercials.

terrible commentary.

and oh yes, more commercials.

Game was delayed so I tuned out.
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ehhwhatever posted...

Makes me wonder how the owners got so rich because they seem stupid to me and I'm not going to watch and perhaps save them from their stupidity.

They got rich in other things or inherited their money.
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Philoktetes posted...

too many penalties

26 accepted penalties. I remember one play with off-setting penalties, so 28+ penalties, including two BS roughing-the-passer calls, one no-call on obvious DPI, and, oh yeah, a mind-numbingly predictable catch-that-wasn't-a-catch-for-undefinable-reasons. Oh, and the game was pretty bad outside that, but that has nothing to do with the fact the game was delayed(ending around 12:30AM EST) and the reffing being horrible.

Speaking of terrible commentary, Al Michaels has gotta go.

It's Mike Tirico's turn. Al is just...done. Dude is done.
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