Poll of the Day > President Trump wants to send NASA back to the moon.

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WastelandCowboy 12/11/17 10:54:08 PM #1:	https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/12/11/569936446/president-trump-is-sending-nasa-back-to-the-moon President Trump has formally told NASA to send U.S. astronauts back to the moon. "The directive I'm signing today will refocus America's space program on human exploration and discovery," he said. Standing at the president's side as he signed "Space Policy Directive 1" on Monday was Apollo 17 astronaut Harrison Schmitt, one of the last two humans to ever walk on the moon, in a mission that took place 45 years ago this week. Since that time, no human has ventured out beyond low-Earth orbit. NASA doesn't even have its own space vehicle, having retired the space shuttles in 2011. Americans currently ride up to the International Space Station in Russian capsules, though private space taxis are expected to start ferrying them up as soon as next year. For now, the ultimate goal for human exploration in space remains Mars. "This time, we will not only plant our flag and leave our footprint, we will establish a foundation for an eventual mission to Mars and, perhaps someday, to many worlds beyond," Trump said. Exactly how to get to Mars, however, is subject to debate within the space community. Many see the moon as the best stepping stone, including Rep. Jim Bridenstine, R-Okla., who is Trump's pick to head NASA. The general moon-first approach being taken by the Trump administration was clearly articulated by Vice President Pence at a meeting of the National Space Council in October. That's why John Logsdon, a space historian at The George Washington University, says Monday's announcement is not a surprise. "Now the question is whether the White House will propose and the Congress appropriate the funds needed to turn the words into reality," Logsdon says. Indeed, actually getting the funding to achieve presidents' ambitious space goals is a perennial problem for NASA. Returning astronauts to the moon had been the plan under President George W. Bush, who called for building a moon base and establishing an extended human presence there. But when a blue-ribbon committee reviewed human spaceflight in 2009, it said there was a mismatch between the scope of the program and the money available to support it: that exploring beyond low-Earth orbit wasn't going to be viable without billions of dollars more in funding. <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:892046883] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote>https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/12/11/569936446/president-trump-is-sending-nasa-back-to-the-moon <quote>President Trump has formally told NASA to send U.S. astronauts back to the moon. "The directive I'm signing today will refocus America's space program on human exploration and discovery," he said. Standing at the president's side as he signed "Space Policy Directive 1" on Monday was Apollo 17 astronaut Harrison Schmitt, one of the last two humans to ever walk on the moon, in a mission that took place 45 years ago this week. Since that time, no human has ventured out beyond low-Earth orbit. NASA doesn't even have its own space vehicle, having retired the space shuttles in 2011. Americans currently ride up to the International Space Station in Russian capsules, though private space taxis are expected to start ferrying them up as soon as next year. For now, the ultimate goal for human exploration in space remains Mars. "This time, we will not only plant our flag and leave our footprint, we will establish a foundation for an eventual mission to Mars and, perhaps someday, to many worlds beyond," Trump said. Exactly how to get to Mars, however, is subject to debate within the space community. Many see the moon as the best stepping stone, including Rep. Jim Bridenstine, R-Okla., who is Trump's pick to head NASA. The general moon-first approach being taken by the Trump administration was clearly articulated by Vice President Pence at a meeting of the National Space Council in October. That's why John Logsdon, a space historian at The George Washington University, says Monday's announcement is not a surprise. "Now the question is whether the White House will propose and the Congress appropriate the funds needed to turn the words into reality," Logsdon says. Indeed, actually getting the funding to achieve presidents' ambitious space goals is a perennial problem for NASA. Returning astronauts to the moon had been the plan under President George W. Bush, who called for building a moon base and establishing an extended human presence there. But when a blue-ribbon committee reviewed human spaceflight in 2009, it said there was a mismatch between the scope of the program and the money available to support it: that exploring beyond low-Earth orbit wasn't going to be viable without billions of dollars more in funding. </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WastelandCowboy 12/11/17 10:54:27 PM #2:	What's more, many worried that NASA would get bogged down in the gray lunar dust and fail to move on toward the Red Planet. That's part of why the Obama administration shifted the focus from the moon to a "flexible path" that would target new destinations, such as an asteroid, to get astronauts farther out into deep space. But the asteroid mission proved more difficult than expected. Eventually, NASA proposed having a robot haul a boulder from an asteroid and put it in orbit around the moon, where astronauts would rendezvous with the space rock. The so-called Asteroid Redirect Mission didn't receive very enthusiastic reviews from the space community or Congress, and this year it got the ax. NASA has recently been working on plans for something called the Deep Space Gateway, an outpost in orbit around the moon. And at the behest of Congress, the space agency has been building a giant new rocket and a deep space capsule. The vehicle is supposed to have its first test flight in 2019, when it will send an uncrewed capsule up to orbit the moon before returning to Earth. Officials in the Trump administration asked NASA to consider putting humans on that flight, but NASA ultimately decided against it after a review. The first mission with a crew on that NASA spacecraft isn't supposed to happen until 2022. The company SpaceX is also constructing a large rocket and has announced that it intends to launch the first private mission to the moon in 2018. SpaceX says it has paying customers for a trip in an automated capsule that wouldn't land, but would loop around the moon and then return. SpaceX also has contracts with NASA to bring astronauts up to the International Space Station and is scheduled to start doing that next year as well. The company has already been hauling cargo to and from the station for NASA. Boeing also has a space transportation system in the works, and its first flight with NASA astronauts on board is planned for 2018. If those companies' efforts pan out, their space taxis will be the first vehicles to carry up astronauts from U.S. soil since the retirement of the space shuttles. <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:892046903] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote><quote>What's more, many worried that NASA would get bogged down in the gray lunar dust and fail to move on toward the Red Planet. That's part of why the Obama administration shifted the focus from the moon to a "flexible path" that would target new destinations, such as an asteroid, to get astronauts farther out into deep space. But the asteroid mission proved more difficult than expected. Eventually, NASA proposed having a robot haul a boulder from an asteroid and put it in orbit around the moon, where astronauts would rendezvous with the space rock. The so-called Asteroid Redirect Mission didn't receive very enthusiastic reviews from the space community or Congress, and this year it got the ax. NASA has recently been working on plans for something called the Deep Space Gateway, an outpost in orbit around the moon. And at the behest of Congress, the space agency has been building a giant new rocket and a deep space capsule. The vehicle is supposed to have its first test flight in 2019, when it will send an uncrewed capsule up to orbit the moon before returning to Earth. Officials in the Trump administration asked NASA to consider putting humans on that flight, but NASA ultimately decided against it after a review. The first mission with a crew on that NASA spacecraft isn't supposed to happen until 2022. The company SpaceX is also constructing a large rocket and has announced that it intends to launch the first private mission to the moon in 2018. SpaceX says it has paying customers for a trip in an automated capsule that wouldn't land, but would loop around the moon and then return. SpaceX also has contracts with NASA to bring astronauts up to the International Space Station and is scheduled to start doing that next year as well. The company has already been hauling cargo to and from the station for NASA. Boeing also has a space transportation system in the works, and its first flight with NASA astronauts on board is planned for 2018. If those companies' efforts pan out, their space taxis will be the first vehicles to carry up astronauts from U.S. soil since the retirement of the space shuttles.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheWorstPoster 12/11/17 10:54:36 PM #3:	Fake news. The Moon doesn't exist. <cite>TheWorstPoster posted [p:892046909] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote>Fake news. The Moon doesn't exist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helIy 12/11/17 10:59:19 PM #4:	... huh whats the motive here --- "Dogs smell like they've had too much fun and need a bath Cats smell like espionage" - Mead <cite>helIy posted [p:892047176] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote>... huh whats the motive here</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EclairReturns 12/11/17 10:59:29 PM #5:	TheWorstPoster posted... The Moon doesn't exist. Yeah, but neither does your job, and that's not fake news. --- Number XII: Larxene. The Organization's Savage Nymph. <cite>EclairReturns posted [p:892047188] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheWorstPoster posted...</cite> <quote>The Moon doesn't exist.</quote> Yeah, but neither does your job, and that's not fake news.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WastelandCowboy 12/11/17 11:01:36 PM #6:	EclairReturns posted... TheWorstPoster posted... The Moon doesn't exist. Yeah, but neither does your job, and that's not fake news. <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:892047326] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote><cite>EclairReturns posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheWorstPoster posted...</cite> <quote>The Moon doesn't exist.</quote> Yeah, but neither does your job, and that's not fake news.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WhiskeyDisk 12/12/17 2:09:11 AM #7:	Luna is a giant, porous sponge that has been soaking up helium3 for eons. It's really our best stepping stone to getting off this rock. --- http://i.imgur.com/4fmtLFt.gif http://s1.zetaboards.com/sba/ ~there's always free cheese in a mousetrap. <cite>WhiskeyDisk posted [p:892055966] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote>Luna is a giant, porous sponge that has been soaking up helium3 for eons. It's really our best stepping stone to getting off this rock.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gguirao 12/12/17 12:48:21 PM #8:	Can we send him and Pence there on a one-way trip? --- Donald J. Trump--proof against government intelligence. <cite>gguirao posted [p:892076091] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote>Can we send him and Pence there on a one-way trip?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nomak-54 12/12/17 1:04:41 PM #9:	EclairReturns posted... TheWorstPoster posted... The Moon doesn't exist. Yeah, but neither does your job, and that's not fake news. damn, fam --- "~Your posture's blocking out any possible light~" - Alvvays http://i.imgur.com/rNCkhGc.gif http://i.imgur.com/BRGmYpZ.gif <cite>Nomak-54 posted [p:892076990] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote><cite>EclairReturns posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheWorstPoster posted...</cite> <quote>The Moon doesn't exist.</quote> Yeah, but neither does your job, and that's not fake news.</quote> damn, fam</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FatalAccident 12/12/17 1:06:01 PM #10:	EclairReturns posted... TheWorstPoster posted... The Moon doesn't exist. Yeah, but neither does your job, and that's not fake news. roasted --- walks away <cite>FatalAccident posted [p:892077067] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote><cite>EclairReturns posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheWorstPoster posted...</cite> <quote>The Moon doesn't exist.</quote> Yeah, but neither does your job, and that's not fake news.</quote> roasted</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mastermix3000 12/12/17 1:11:01 PM #11:	EclairReturns posted... TheWorstPoster posted... The Moon doesn't exist. Yeah, but neither does your job, and that's not fake news. lol --- RIP in peace Junpei 6/1/17 :( <cite>mastermix3000 posted [p:892077351] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote><cite>EclairReturns posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheWorstPoster posted...</cite> <quote>The Moon doesn't exist.</quote> Yeah, but neither does your job, and that's not fake news.</quote> lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yutterh 12/12/17 1:14:51 PM #12:	Finally, he has done something worthwhile and meaningful. This us the kind of stuff I was expecting from him. --- i7-5820K 3.3GHz, Asus X99-DELUXE, Corsair H110i GTX, 850 EVO 1TB, EVGA GTX 970 4GB FTW ACX2.0, Corsair 760T, EVGA 850W, Orion Spark, Proteus Core, Benq BL3200PT <cite>yutterh posted [p:892077582] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote>Finally, he has done something worthwhile and meaningful. This us the kind of stuff I was expecting from him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ernieforss 12/12/17 3:09:52 PM #13:	you say that but it's just vane. he's not sending people their to advance the huaman race. he just want to send people up there to say he did it. Might as well send people to mars to die. Just to say that he was the first person to send people to mars. --- I'm always 50% right all the time <cite>ernieforss posted [p:892084825] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote>you say that but it's just vane. he's not sending people their to advance the huaman race. he just want to send people up there to say he did it. Might as well send people to mars to die. Just to say that he was the first person to send people to mars.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ninja_lootz 12/12/17 3:19:23 PM #14:	ernieforss posted... you say that but it's just vane. he's not sending people their to advance the huaman race. he just want to send people up there to say he did it. Might as well send people to mars to die. Just to say that he was the first person to send people to mars. So, just like the first time we sent people to the Moon? --- MY HELMET'S ON YOU CAN'T TELL ME I'M NOT IN SPACE <cite>ninja_lootz posted [p:892085392] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote><cite>ernieforss posted...</cite> <quote>you say that but it's just vane. he's not sending people their to advance the huaman race. he just want to send people up there to say he did it. Might as well send people to mars to die. Just to say that he was the first person to send people to mars.</quote> So, just like the first time we sent people to the Moon?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mastermix3000 12/12/17 3:27:15 PM #15:	ernieforss posted... Might as well send people to mars to die bruh --- RIP in peace Junpei 6/1/17 :( <cite>mastermix3000 posted [p:892085888] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote><cite>ernieforss posted...</cite> <quote>Might as well send people to mars to die</quote> bruh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shadowsword87 12/12/17 3:40:41 PM #16:	yutterh posted... Finally, he has done something worthwhile and meaningful. This us the kind of stuff I was expecting from him. Is he giving them more money, or just pointing them somewhere else? <cite>shadowsword87 posted [p:892086717] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote><cite>yutterh posted...</cite> <quote>Finally, he has done something worthwhile and meaningful. This us the kind of stuff I was expecting from him.</quote> Is he giving them more money, or just pointing them somewhere else?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nesrtkfan 12/12/17 4:05:59 PM #17:	shadowsword87 posted... yutterh posted... Finally, he has done something worthwhile and meaningful. This us the kind of stuff I was expecting from him. Is he giving them more money, or just pointing them somewhere else? pointing. NASA isn't going to get more money <cite>nesrtkfan posted [p:892088358] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote><cite>shadowsword87 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>yutterh posted...</cite> <quote>Finally, he has done something worthwhile and meaningful. This us the kind of stuff I was expecting from him.</quote> Is he giving them more money, or just pointing them somewhere else?</quote> pointing. NASA isn't going to get more money</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
impatientperson 12/12/17 4:07:40 PM #18:	If we land on the moon during his (hopefully short) presidency I will actually respect him quite a bit more. It would have to be NASA though, not a private entity. Let's build our Rapture/Columbia up there! --- This user is awesome!: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/user.php?board=804141&topic=12351915135 <cite>impatientperson posted [p:892088478] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote>If we land on the moon during his (hopefully short) presidency I will actually respect him quite a bit more. It would have to be NASA though, not a private entity. Let's build our Rapture/Columbia up there!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OmegaTomHank 12/12/17 4:11:55 PM #19:	We never went in the first place. That was propaganda <cite>OmegaTomHank posted [p:892088762] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote>We never went in the first place. That was propaganda</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 12/12/17 4:28:03 PM #20:	How are we supposed to afford this when we're cutting taxes? >_> He's spending like a Democrat like trying to cut taxes like a Republican. helIy posted... ... huh whats the motive here Freeing Rita Repulsa so that the US can taken over the planet. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash <cite>Zeus posted [p:892089849] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote>How are we supposed to afford this when we're cutting taxes? >_> He's spending like a Democrat like trying to cut taxes like a Republican. <cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote>... huh whats the motive here</quote> Freeing Rita Repulsa so that the US can taken over the planet. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mario_VS_DK 12/12/17 4:28:10 PM #21:	Does that mean that NASA will get a bigger budget? That'd be nice. --- Should I have a signature? <cite>Mario_VS_DK posted [p:892089862] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote>Does that mean that NASA will get a bigger budget? That'd be nice.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GastroFan 12/12/17 4:28:42 PM #22:	gguirao posted... Can we send him and Pence there on a one-way trip? My sentiments exactly, after which we can send the Moon out of orbit...Space 1999 anyone? <cite>GastroFan posted [p:892089889] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote><cite>gguirao posted...</cite> <quote>Can we send him and Pence there on a one-way trip?</quote> My sentiments exactly, after which we can send the Moon out of orbit...Space 1999 anyone?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeoSioType 12/12/17 4:44:55 PM #23:	The technology and resources that got us to the moon has been lost for a very long time. NASA has to find out how they did it the first time and start rebuilding. <cite>NeoSioType posted [p:892090903] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote>The technology and resources that got us to the moon has been lost for a very long time. NASA has to find out how they did it the first time and start rebuilding.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shadowsword87 12/12/17 4:46:07 PM #24:	NeoSioType posted... The technology and resources that got us to the moon has been lost for a very long time. NASA has to find out how they did it the first time and start rebuilding. Sorry, what? What do you mean "lost"? <cite>shadowsword87 posted [p:892090987] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote><cite>NeoSioType posted...</cite> <quote>The technology and resources that got us to the moon has been lost for a very long time. NASA has to find out how they did it the first time and start rebuilding.</quote> Sorry, what? What do you mean "lost"?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeoSioType 12/12/17 4:56:58 PM #25:	They overwrote priceless videos and lost moon rocks and you're wondering about infrastructure and the operation? <cite>NeoSioType posted [p:892091703] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote>They overwrote priceless videos and lost moon rocks and you're wondering about infrastructure and the operation?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muscles 12/12/17 4:57:07 PM #26:	NeoSioType posted... The technology and resources that got us to the moon has been lost for a very long time. NASA has to find out how they did it the first time and start rebuilding. Technology has advanced so much why would they want to go backwards? --- Muscles Chicago Bears \| Chicago Blackhawks \| Chicago Bulls \| Chicago Cubs \| NIU Huskies <cite>Muscles posted [p:892091711] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote><cite>NeoSioType posted...</cite> <quote>The technology and resources that got us to the moon has been lost for a very long time. NASA has to find out how they did it the first time and start rebuilding.</quote> Technology has advanced so much why would they want to go backwards?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WastelandCowboy 12/12/17 11:46:43 PM #27:	NeoSioType posted... They overwrote priceless videos and lost moon rocks and you're wondering about infrastructure and the operation? Sources please. <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:892117154] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote><cite>NeoSioType posted...</cite> <quote>They overwrote priceless videos and lost moon rocks and you're wondering about infrastructure and the operation?</quote> Sources please.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 12/12/17 11:59:58 PM #28:	OmegaTomHank posted... We never went in the first place. That was propaganda Found the flat earther. NeoSioType posted... The technology and resources that got us to the moon has been lost for a very long time. NASA has to find out how they did it the first time and start rebuilding. Wat. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355 <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:892117874] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote><cite>OmegaTomHank posted...</cite> <quote>We never went in the first place. That was propaganda</quote> Found the flat earther. <cite>NeoSioType posted...</cite> <quote>The technology and resources that got us to the moon has been lost for a very long time. NASA has to find out how they did it the first time and start rebuilding.</quote> Wat.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helIy 12/13/17 12:10:29 AM #29:	nesrtkfan posted... pointing. NASA isn't going to get more money he already gave them money --- "Dogs smell like they've had too much fun and need a bath Cats smell like espionage" - Mead <cite>helIy posted [p:892118408] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote><cite>nesrtkfan posted...</cite> <quote>pointing. NASA isn't going to get more money</quote> he already gave them money</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DocDelicious 12/13/17 1:11:52 AM #30:	Wow...Trump did something I agree with. Should I go play the lottery or something? --- o7 Let strength be granted so the world might be mended. <cite>DocDelicious posted [p:892121353] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote>Wow...Trump did something I agree with. Should I go play the lottery or something?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrndNhbrHdCEman 12/13/17 1:47:52 AM #31:	NeoSioType posted... The technology and resources that got us to the moon has been lost for a very long time. NASA has to find out how they did it the first time and start rebuilding. What are ya huffing? --- Official nosy neighbor and gossip http://imgur.com/uGKwGsK <cite>FrndNhbrHdCEman posted [p:892122815] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote><cite>NeoSioType posted...</cite> <quote>The technology and resources that got us to the moon has been lost for a very long time. NASA has to find out how they did it the first time and start rebuilding.</quote> What are ya huffing?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 12/13/17 1:51:14 AM #32:	helIy posted... ... huh whats the motive here Same as every other statement he makes. A diversion to get Americans to focus on anything but the Mueller investigation. --- All praise Mead <cite>Mead posted [p:892122925] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote>... huh whats the motive here</quote> Same as every other statement he makes. A diversion to get Americans to focus on anything but the Mueller investigation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doctor Foxx 12/13/17 2:04:03 AM #33:	China stops taking US trash. Trump announces he wants to go back to the moon. Either a lunar dump or mining venture in the future --- Never write off the Doctor! <cite>Doctor Foxx posted [p:892123317] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote>China stops taking US trash. Trump announces he wants to go back to the moon. Either a lunar dump or mining venture in the future</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DocDelicious 12/13/17 2:05:20 AM #34:	FrndNhbrHdCEman posted... NeoSioType posted... The technology and resources that got us to the moon has been lost for a very long time. NASA has to find out how they did it the first time and start rebuilding. What are ya huffing? He's right though. NASA has said themselves that they've lost the telemetry data and are basically starting from scratch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0hsMJj9Q-A Just be aware...Flat Earthers use this as "irrefutable proof!" so it gets mixed in with a lot of nonsense. --- o7 Let strength be granted so the world might be mended. <cite>DocDelicious posted [p:892123355] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NeoSioType posted...</cite> <quote>The technology and resources that got us to the moon has been lost for a very long time. NASA has to find out how they did it the first time and start rebuilding.</quote> What are ya huffing?</quote> He's right though. NASA has said themselves that they've lost the telemetry data and are basically starting from scratch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0hsMJj9Q-A Just be aware...Flat Earthers use this as "irrefutable proof!" so it gets mixed in with a lot of nonsense.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReggieTheReckless 12/13/17 2:32:07 AM #35:	DocDelicious posted... are basically starting from scratch. ...How does this make any sense? There are plenty of people that figured this shit out the first time that are still alive! Is there a reason they can't ask them what they did? <cite>ReggieTheReckless posted [p:892124172] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote><cite>DocDelicious posted...</cite> <quote>are basically starting from scratch.</quote> ...How does this make any sense? There are plenty of people that figured this shit out the first time that are still alive! Is there a reason they can't ask them what they did?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DocDelicious 12/13/17 2:40:06 AM #36:	ReggieTheReckless posted... DocDelicious posted... are basically starting from scratch. ...How does this make any sense? There are plenty of people that figured this shit out the first time that are still alive! Is there a reason they can't ask them what they did? It fucking doesn't make sense lol. That's why so many conspiracy theorists jump all over it. --- o7 Let strength be granted so the world might be mended. <cite>DocDelicious posted [p:892124385] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote><cite>ReggieTheReckless posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DocDelicious posted...</cite> <quote>are basically starting from scratch.</quote> ...How does this make any sense? There are plenty of people that figured this shit out the first time that are still alive! Is there a reason they can't ask them what they did?</quote> It fucking doesn't make sense lol. That's why so many conspiracy theorists jump all over it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Philoktetes 12/13/17 2:41:45 AM #37:	space travel is "cool" and "epic" but really a waste of money at this point we need to spend are tax dollars fixing the problems on earth first --- I don't think so, Tim. ~~ Pizza Crew ~~ <cite>Philoktetes posted [p:892124425] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote>space travel is "cool" and "epic" but really a waste of money at this point we need to spend are tax dollars fixing the problems on earth first</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 12/13/17 3:08:46 AM #39:	yutterh posted... Finally, he has done something worthwhile and meaningful. This us the kind of stuff I was expecting from him. Not sure how worthwhile or meaningful this will actually be. It's not like we're building a colony or something. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash <cite>Zeus posted [p:892125093] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote><cite>yutterh posted...</cite> <quote>Finally, he has done something worthwhile and meaningful. This us the kind of stuff I was expecting from him.</quote> Not sure how worthwhile or meaningful this will actually be. It's not like we're building a colony or something.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shadowsword87 12/13/17 3:24:37 AM #40:	DocDelicious posted... NASA has said themselves that they've lost the telemetry data and are basically starting from scratch. It ain't hard to re-do it, we have better computers. <cite>shadowsword87 posted [p:892125442] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote><cite>DocDelicious posted...</cite> <quote>NASA has said themselves that they've lost the telemetry data and are basically starting from scratch.</quote> It ain't hard to re-do it, we have better computers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeoSioType 12/13/17 3:26:45 AM #41:	WastelandCowboy posted... NeoSioType posted... They overwrote priceless videos and lost moon rocks and you're wondering about infrastructure and the operation? Sources please. https://www.npr.org/2009/07/16/106637066/houston-we-erased-the-apollo-11-tapes http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/22/science/space/nasa-tackles-problem-of-missing-moon-rocks.html https://oig.nasa.gov/audits/reports/FY12/IG-12-007.pdf <cite>NeoSioType posted [p:892125496] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote><cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NeoSioType posted...</cite> <quote>They overwrote priceless videos and lost moon rocks and you're wondering about infrastructure and the operation?</quote> Sources please.</quote> https://www.npr.org/2009/07/16/106637066/houston-we-erased-the-apollo-11-tapes http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/22/science/space/nasa-tackles-problem-of-missing-moon-rocks.html https://oig.nasa.gov/audits/reports/FY12/IG-12-007.pdf</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Philoktetes 12/13/17 3:35:26 AM #42:	npr is a Liberal news source --- I don't think so, Tim. ~~ Pizza Crew ~~ <cite>Philoktetes posted [p:892125717] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote>npr is a Liberal news source</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 12/13/17 3:37:35 AM #43:	Philoktetes posted... npr is a Liberal news source Which doesn't really matter within this context because it's not even a partisan issue. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash <cite>Zeus posted [p:892125763] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote><cite>Philoktetes posted...</cite> <quote>npr is a Liberal news source</quote> Which doesn't really matter within this context because it's not even a partisan issue.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeoSioType 12/13/17 3:40:38 AM #44:	Guyz, I'm literally just throwing keywords into the search engine. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nasa-tapes/moon-landing-tapes-got-erased-nasa-admits-idUSTRE56F5MK20090716 <cite>NeoSioType posted [p:892125828] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote>Guyz, I'm literally just throwing keywords into the search engine. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nasa-tapes/moon-landing-tapes-got-erased-nasa-admits-idUSTRE56F5MK20090716</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Philoktetes 12/13/17 3:40:38 AM #45:	everything is partisan --- I don't think so, Tim. ~~ Pizza Crew ~~ <cite>Philoktetes posted [p:892125830] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote>everything is partisan</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Johnny Eagle 12/13/17 10:40:07 AM #46:	DocDelicious posted... Wow...Trump did something I agree with. Should I go play the lottery or something? Wouldn't hurt --- "Life's a game. It's meant to be played." "Amateurs built the Ark. Professionals built the Titanic." <cite>Johnny Eagle posted [p:892137405] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote><cite>DocDelicious posted...</cite> <quote>Wow...Trump did something I agree with. Should I go play the lottery or something?</quote> Wouldn't hurt</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 12/13/17 10:44:17 AM #47:	helIy posted... ... huh whats the motive here Presumably ego-stroking, or at least the patriotic equivalent thereof. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:892137612] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote>... huh whats the motive here</quote> Presumably ego-stroking, or at least the patriotic equivalent thereof.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dioxxys 12/13/17 10:52:48 AM #48:	adjl posted... helIy posted... ... huh whats the motive here Presumably ego-stroking, or at least the patriotic equivalent thereof. I mean space related ventures are expensive. There's always progress to be made. Imagine if we never got cars to drive up to 100mph because they cost too much to test drive. I imagine theres similar optimizations that need to be done with rocket science. If they never get to test them in real space missions then they cant improve. If Trump throws his personal money at the researching and funds that'll be great. <cite>dioxxys posted [p:892138080] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote>... huh whats the motive here</quote> Presumably ego-stroking, or at least the patriotic equivalent thereof.</quote> I mean space related ventures are expensive. There's always progress to be made. Imagine if we never got cars to drive up to 100mph because they cost too much to test drive. I imagine theres similar optimizations that need to be done with rocket science. If they never get to test them in real space missions then they cant improve. If Trump throws his personal money at the researching and funds that'll be great.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 12/14/17 3:07:31 AM #49:	dioxxys posted... adjl posted... helIy posted... ... huh whats the motive here Presumably ego-stroking, or at least the patriotic equivalent thereof. I mean space related ventures are expensive. There's always progress to be made. Imagine if we never got cars to drive up to 100mph because they cost too much to test drive. I imagine theres similar optimizations that need to be done with rocket science. If they never get to test them in real space missions then they cant improve. If Trump throws his personal money at the researching and funds that'll be great. That's a bad example since you don't even need to go that fast. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355 <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:892188004] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote><cite>dioxxys posted...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote>... huh whats the motive here</quote> Presumably ego-stroking, or at least the patriotic equivalent thereof.</quote> I mean space related ventures are expensive. There's always progress to be made. Imagine if we never got cars to drive up to 100mph because they cost too much to test drive. I imagine theres similar optimizations that need to be done with rocket science. If they never get to test them in real space missions then they cant improve. If Trump throws his personal money at the researching and funds that'll be great.</quote> That's a bad example since you don't even need to go that fast.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dioxxys 12/14/17 9:11:00 PM #50:	Revelation34 posted... dioxxys posted... adjl posted... helIy posted... ... huh whats the motive here Presumably ego-stroking, or at least the patriotic equivalent thereof. I mean space related ventures are expensive. There's always progress to be made. Imagine if we never got cars to drive up to 100mph because they cost too much to test drive. I imagine theres similar optimizations that need to be done with rocket science. If they never get to test them in real space missions then they cant improve. If Trump throws his personal money at the researching and funds that'll be great. That's a bad example since you don't even need to go that fast. but speed is but one parameter, improvements can be made in any form of technology. <cite>dioxxys posted [p:892236723] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dioxxys posted...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote>... huh whats the motive here</quote> Presumably ego-stroking, or at least the patriotic equivalent thereof.</quote> I mean space related ventures are expensive. There's always progress to be made. Imagine if we never got cars to drive up to 100mph because they cost too much to test drive. I imagine theres similar optimizations that need to be done with rocket science. If they never get to test them in real space missions then they cant improve. If Trump throws his personal money at the researching and funds that'll be great.</quote> That's a bad example since you don't even need to go that fast.</quote> but speed is but one parameter, improvements can be made in any form of technology.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlazeAndBlade 12/14/17 10:00:06 PM #51:	this topic needs some moon related songs added https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh763Sb-CqE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV6E13xODyA --- Having a goal is good, but don't let your goal depress you. Goals are meant to inspire. <cite>BlazeAndBlade posted [p:892239366] in President ... [t:76089006]...</cite> <quote>this topic needs some moon related songs added https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh763Sb-CqE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV6E13xODyA</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Poll of the Day > President Trump wants to send NASA back to the moon.