Current Events > I'm having an 18-year old twink over on Saturday.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6FDCh2d8V0
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What's a twink
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GODTIER posted...

What's a twink

A cute slim hairless guy.
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how come straight people dont have cool subclasses like gay people do
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Romulox28 posted...

how come straight people dont have cool subclasses like gay people do

Because it would be sexist
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Romulox28 posted...

how come straight people dont have cool subclasses like gay people do

I think twinks are the lowest class in the gay hierarchy. :u they're a dime a dozen.
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OpheliaAdenade posted...

Romulox28 posted...

how come straight people dont have cool subclasses like gay people do

I think twinks are the lowest class in the gay hierarchy. :u they're a dime a dozen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw6YxwOcg_A
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Romulox28 posted...

how come straight people dont have cool subclasses like gay people do

You got Chads and land whales and neckbeards >.>
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are daddies at the top of the hierarchy? where do otters fit? bears?
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OpheliaAdenade posted...

I think twinks are the lowest class in the gay hierarchy. :u they're a dime a dozen.

As long as bears are higher up. I could've phrased it as "on top" instead, but that's a given.
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Romulox28 posted...

how come straight people dont have cool subclasses like gay people do

On the flipside they do have this problem:


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OpheliaAdenade posted...

are daddies at the top of the hierarchy? where do otters fit? bears?

If I've got this right, muscle daddies over 6ft1 and passable trans women are at the very top of the grindr desirable list.
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Romulox28 posted...

how come straight people dont have cool subclasses like gay people do

You're the generic enemies. >.>
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pinky0926 posted...

Romulox28 posted...

how come straight people dont have cool subclasses like gay people do

On the flipside they do have this problem:

Clearly he didn't get the memo to come in leather. Usually at those kinds of parties there's someone in the building willing to sell you leather if you don't already have your own. I don't know. Maybe he's lost. Maybe his 'daddy' brought him there and then abandoned him to go woof after other guys. Maybe he's the party bottom and he's taking a short break. The possibilities are endless.
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pinky0926 posted...

OpheliaAdenade posted...

are daddies at the top of the hierarchy? where do otters fit? bears?

If I've got this right, muscle daddies over 6ft1 and passable trans women are at the very top of the grindr desirable list.

So here's the tea on this.

1. Insta-gays
2. Straight-passing (because we hate ourselves)
3. Gym bunnies
4. Muscle Bears
5. Otters
6. Wolves
------------------- (Below this line ethnic skin tones tend to negatively impact sexual capital.)
7. Bears (There's a special community dynamic at play here that keeps those who ascribe to it fairly insular; there are bear functions/bars/etc. To my knowledge, no other gay male subculture has these organized around body type).
8. Silver Daddies
9. Twinks
10. Chubs

Where sexual positions and sexual capital correlate:
1. tops
2. blouses
3. bottoms

Transwomen, BBCs, and weird domination fetishes involving Asian men seem like special interest categories or 'flavors' that any random grindr account might indulge in. For reasons I think we all know, dark-skinned men who aren't tops, and asian men who aren't bottoms get like no play from 80% of grindr/scruff (I need a shade emoji)/growlr/A4A, etc.

These are just observations I've experienced and gathered. I also have not tried all of the hookup apps and acknowledge that these things may change both by app community and by physical location.
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no one's booty is safe from BL
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hollow_shrine posted...

pinky0926 posted...

OpheliaAdenade posted...

are daddies at the top of the hierarchy? where do otters fit? bears?

If I've got this right, muscle daddies over 6ft1 and passable trans women are at the very top of the grindr desirable list.

So here's the tea on this.

1. Insta-gays
2. Straight-passing (because we hate ourselves)
3. Gym bunnies
4. Muscle Bears
5. Otters
6. Wolves
------------------- (Below this line ethnic skin tones tend to negatively impact sexual capital.)
7. Bears
8. Silver Daddies
9. Twinks
10. Chubs

Where sexual positions and sexual capital correlate:
1. tops
2. blouses
3. bottoms

Transwomen, BBCs, and weird domination fetishes involving Asian men seem like special interest categories or 'flavors' that any random grindr account might indulge in. For reasons I think we all know, dark-skinned men who aren't tops, and asian men who aren't bottoms get like no play from 80% of grindr/scruff (I need a shade emoji)/growlr/A4A, etc.

These are just observations I've experienced and gathered. I also have not tried all of the hookup apps and acknowledge that these things may change both by app community and by physical location.

I've fooled around on grindr a bit and this sounds accurate. I think if you're tall and big and a bottom, or small and an asian minority and a top, you're going to have a hard time.

Also wtf is a wolf? Is that like mysterious and handsome but also lean and dangerous looking?
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wtf is a "blouse"
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pinky0926 posted...

Also wtf is a wolf? Is that like mysterious and handsome but also lean and dangerous looking?

Twink + Body hair

OpheliaAdenade posted...

wtf is a "blouse"

A feminine top. Most would clock them as a bottom at a glance. I have a hard time knowing where to put them, because they deal with the stereotyping of one, but still actually prefer to top, which makes them attractive to people looking to bottom.
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pinky0926 posted...

I think if you're tall and big and a bottom...you're going to have a hard time.

Which is why growlr exists.

hollow_shrine posted...

Twink + Body hair

That's an otter. "Wolf" isn't quite as slender IIRC. Sorta more medium-build.
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hollow_shrine posted...

pinky0926 posted...

Also wtf is a wolf? Is that like mysterious and handsome but also lean and dangerous looking?

Twink + Body hair

OpheliaAdenade posted...

wtf is a "blouse"

A feminine top

If I was a gay guy, I'd totally be a blouse then. :u Sounds like fun.
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I'm learning so many things
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This thread disgusts me
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TrollSlayer11 posted...

This thread disgusts me

And you disgust us. No one's making you stay, sweetie.


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Being a top doesn't sound hard at all tbh. Don't you just have to thrust it in and keep saying "you like that?!" over and over again?

And then do you choke them? :u
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OpheliaAdenade posted...

Being a top doesn't sound hard at all tbh. Don't you just have to thrust it in and keep saying "you like that?!" over and over again?

And then do you choke them? :u

If you want more attention and options I'd say being the top is easier.

But the actual mechanics of anal sex, I wouldn't say it's necessarily easier. You're the one responsible if someone gets hurt. And you're the one who has to keep it up while you spend 45 minutes prepping beforehand.
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pinky0926 posted...

OpheliaAdenade posted...

Being a top doesn't sound hard at all tbh. Don't you just have to thrust it in and keep saying "you like that?!" over and over again?

And then do you choke them? :u

If you want more attention and options I'd say being the top is easier.

But the actual mechanics of anal sex, I wouldn't say it's necessarily easier. You're the one responsible if someone gets hurt. And you're the one who has to keep it up while you spend 45 minutes prepping beforehand.

how does it take 45 minutes to prep? :o I thought only the person getting fucked had to prep for it, like you know *whispers* douche. Shouldn't the top be ready to go at a moments notice?

I'm not an expert on how dicks work though
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pinky0926 posted...

And you're the one who has to keep it up while you spend 45 minutes prepping beforehand.

Which is why the bottom should do their part and help keep the top up.
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OpheliaAdenade posted...

how does it take 45 minutes to prep? :o I thought only the person getting fucked had to prep for it, like you know *whispers* douche. Shouldn't the top be ready to go at a moments notice?

I'm not an expert on how dicks work though

The butt doesn't work like a vagina. It's not really designed to have things put in it. At best it's designed to let things come out of it. The prepping is required so that you can relax it and stretch gradually without pain. It's very...invasive to have a D inside there.

So the mechanics are basically tongue for 5 minutes. Finger for another 5-10. Two fingers for another 5-10. 3 fingers. Then a little bit of D, no movement. Then all of the D, no movement. Then a tiny bit of movement.

It takes a long time to get up to speed, so to speak. And if you rush it and someone isn't prepared it's going to hurt them so much that they won't want anything to do with your D for a few days.

This might be expedited with someone who does it a lot and regularly though.
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hollow_shrine posted...

pinky0926 posted...

OpheliaAdenade posted...

are daddies at the top of the hierarchy? where do otters fit? bears?

If I've got this right, muscle daddies over 6ft1 and passable trans women are at the very top of the grindr desirable list.

So here's the tea on this.

1. Insta-gays
2. Straight-passing (because we hate ourselves)
3. Gym bunnies
4. Muscle Bears
5. Otters
6. Wolves
------------------- (Below this line ethnic skin tones tend to negatively impact sexual capital.)
7. Bears (There's a special community dynamic at play here that keeps those who ascribe to it fairly insular; there are bear functions/bars/etc. To my knowledge, no other gay male subculture has these organized around body type).
8. Silver Daddies
9. Twinks
10. Chubs

Where sexual positions and sexual capital correlate:
1. tops
2. blouses
3. bottoms

Transwomen, BBCs, and weird domination fetishes involving Asian men seem like special interest categories or 'flavors' that any random grindr account might indulge in. For reasons I think we all know, dark-skinned men who aren't tops, and asian men who aren't bottoms get like no play from 80% of grindr/scruff (I need a shade emoji)/growlr/A4A, etc.

These are just observations I've experienced and gathered. I also have not tried all of the hookup apps and acknowledge that these things may change both by app community and by physical location.

What happens if a Bottom Silver Daddy meets a Top Muscle Bear, but then when they get back to his place they find out the Bear is actually just a a Blouse Chub
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Romulox28 posted...

What happens if a Silver Daddy meets a Muscle Bear, but then when they get back to his place they find out the Bear is actually just a a Blouse Chub

I smell a sitcom!
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OpheliaAdenade posted...

Being a top doesn't sound hard at all tbh. Don't you just have to thrust it in and keep saying "you like that?!" over and over again?

And then do you choke them? :u

You have to stay hard and not finish too soon and be attentive to what the bottom is communicating because if you're careless you can hurt them (this is why the best tops also bottom occasionally so they know what they're doing). Then there's performative aspects you allude to. Finding a rhythm and having the body coordination to maintain it doesn't come naturally to everyone. Topping can be psychologically and physically demanding.
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pinky0926 posted...

The butt doesn't work like a vagina. It's not really designed to have things put in it. At best it's designed to let things come out of it. The prepping is required so that you can relax it and stretch gradually without pain. It's very...invasive to have a D inside there. So the mechanics are basically tongue for 5 minutes. Finger for another 5-10. Two fingers for another 5-10. 3 fingers. Then a little bit of D, no movement. Then all of the D, no movement. Then a tiny bit of movement. It takes a long time to get up to speed, so to speak. And if you rush it and someone isn't prepared it's going to hurt them so much that they won't want anything to do with your D for a few days. This might be expedited with someone who does it a lot and regularly though.

Goodness... I didn't realize so much went into it. :o Still, I'd rather do all that then have something shoved up my butt. I poop from there!
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pinky0926 posted...

OpheliaAdenade posted...

how does it take 45 minutes to prep? :o I thought only the person getting fucked had to prep for it, like you know *whispers* douche. Shouldn't the top be ready to go at a moments notice?

I'm not an expert on how dicks work though

The butt doesn't work like a vagina. It's not really designed to have things put in it. At best it's designed to let things come out of it. The prepping is required so that you can relax it and stretch gradually without pain. It's very...invasive to have a D inside there.

So the mechanics are basically tongue for 5 minutes. Finger for another 5-10. Two fingers for another 5-10. 3 fingers. Then a little bit of D, no movement. Then all of the D, no movement. Then a tiny bit of movement.

It takes a long time to get up to speed, so to speak. And if you rush it and someone isn't prepared it's going to hurt them so much that they won't want anything to do with your D for a few days.

This might be expedited with someone who does it a lot and regularly though.

what happens if u make a poopie during
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OpheliaAdenade posted...

Goodness... I didn't realize so much went into it. :o Still, I'd rather do all that then have something shoved up my butt. I poop from there!

You shove it up there and you're going to get some poopy on it eventually

Romulox28 posted...

what happens if u make a poopie during

Well then you get married
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Romulox28 posted...

What happens if a Bottom Silver Daddy meets a Top Muscle Bear, but then when they get back to his place they find out the Bear is actually just a a Blouse Chub

If he's a muscle bear then he can't be a chub unless he's a ninja with magical shape altering powers. And even if the top is a magical ninja with shape changing powers, he's still a top. Chances are the evening proceeds as planned...and they get married and live a wholesome chaste life adopting Syrian orphans or something.
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hollow_shrine posted...

Romulox28 posted...

What happens if a Bottom Silver Daddy meets a Top Muscle Bear, but then when they get back to his place they find out the Bear is actually just a a Blouse Chub

If he's a muscle bear then he can't be a chub unless he's a ninja with magical shape altering powers. And even if the top is a magical ninja with shape changing powers, he's still a top. Chances are the evening proceeds as planned...and they get married and live a wholesome chaste life adopting Syrian orphans or something.

Can you have a class & specialization, like in WoW? Say a Silver Daddy Bear
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Romulox28 posted...

Can you have a class & specialization, like in WoW? Say a Silver Daddy Bear

Maybe on that one server that's famous for ERP shit.
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Romulox28 posted...

Can you have a class & specialization, like in WoW? Say a Silver Daddy Bear

We do love our labels. Silver Daddies are often bears. The silver daddy designation will supersede most other designations because the age is often obvious, and because we are ageist.

Any how specialization is probably where the whole sexual position preference (top/bottom/vers) comes into play. Hmm. maybe the various fetish scenes are like prestige specializations.

Silver Leather Daddy Tops
Muscle Bear Chastity Bottoms
Twink Dom Tops

Oh my...
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BalanceLost posted...

GODTIER posted...

What's a twink

A cute slim hairless guy.

Oh, saved me the trouble of googling it.
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hollow_shrine posted...

Silver Leather Daddy Tops
Muscle Bear Chastity Bottoms
Twink Dom Tops

i want to be gay
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHKhS24ZM8s
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That is a lot. I'm only just managing to avoid running away in terror.
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hollow_shrine posted...

That is a lot. I'm only just managing to avoid running away in terror.

i love the twist ending.

I just wish I had eyelashes like that girl. they're so beautiful.
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gunplagirl posted...

Romulox28 posted...

how come straight people dont have cool subclasses like gay people do

You're the generic enemies. >.>

Im the good guy!


Also it's mean to say twinks are the bottom of the heirachy just because they have the weirdest name.

Come on guys...
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Fascinating read
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LittleRoyal posted...

Also it's mean to say twinks are the bottom of the heirachy just because they have the weirdest name.

Come on guys...

When we're talking about the hierarchy, we're stratifying the sexual capital the gay male hookup app community seems to apply to men based on how they fall in to certain body type categories. So when someone says twinks are at the bottom of the totem pole, they're (usually) making an observation that they are often seen as less desirable than gay men fitting in other higher rated categories. We're not making a value judgement on this with our observations. There is, however, no there's no shortage of (needed) commentary and self-reflection on this, because some of this is just preference, but some of it definitely goes deeper.
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Asherlee10 posted...

What I always found weird in gay world (same for both us lesbians and gay men), is when one type hooks up with the same type.

For example when a butch lesbian hooks up with another butch lesbian. You like who you like, but come on.

I find it strange that a gay man would want to be with a feminine dude. May as well just be with a chick at that point. Or a woman being with a butch lesbian, may as well just be with a dude.

But to each their own.
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