Current Events > Trump seeks cuts to Federal housing aid except the program that benefits him

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/trump-seeks-sharp-cuts-to-housing-aid-except-for-program-that-brings-him-millions/2017/06/20/bf1fb2b8-5531-11e7-ba90-f5875b7d1876_story.html

he wants all of it cut except for that one little thing that just so happens to bring him millions of dollars per year.

is the swamp drained yet?
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You voted for him, you live with it
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UnfairRepresent posted...

You voted for him, you live with it

if you're referring to me, personally, then you're woefully misinformed (again)

don't UnfairRepresent me, bro!
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ah but you see, that makes him smarter than us
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Oh fuck he's back
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foreveraIone posted...

Oh fuck he's back

oh noes :(.

we're ****ed.
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Fine with me. The majority of crime in my cities stems from the public housing areas. It also enables users like marthakoop and DocileOrangeCup to sit around unemployed
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glitteringfairy posted...

Fine with me. The majority of crime in my cities stems from the public housing areas. It also enables users like marthakoop and DocileOrangeCup to sit around unemployed

biggest problem is the drug dealers and abusers, especially drug dealers because they alone are causing all the problems.
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glitteringfairy posted...

Fine with me. The majority of crime in my cities stems from the public housing areas. It also enables users like marthakoop and DocileOrangeCup to sit around unemployed

lol, the first trumpeter to ignore the obvious corruption and try to justify this. lets wait for the others...

glitteringfairy posted...

Fine with me.

one of the biggest things Trump campaigned on was eliminating the corruption from Washington. you know, the type of things where politicians take actions that directly benefit themselves and not the electorate?

that's what he's doing right now and none of you red hatters seem to care. funny how that works.
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Literally the Washington Compost and their blatant bias that you can smell all over the article.
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I'm going to try my best to spin this as an exercise. From the WaPo article we learn:
-Trump maintains rent subsidized apartments for housing low income tenants, which he doesn't have to do.
-except for the end of the article where they say they don't actually know how much stake he still has in these locations
-any stake he may have was placed into a trust when he became president, meaning he isn't seeing the money directly
-The subsidies from the govt make up for the lack of rent being charged, balancing out the total rent that would otherwise be charged (tenants pay 30%, the govt covers the rest) therefore not increasing the amount of money one would make from renting those apartments
-nevertheless the WaPo article claims those subsidies as profits and not subsidies
-the money subsidized from this program represents about 1% of Trump's housing profits, anyway, meaning the impact is almost negligible even if it were profit.
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Sorry fellers. I was just praising the decision to cut funding. I'm not ok with Trump lining his pockets
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glitteringfairy posted...

Fine with me. The majority of crime in my cities stems from the public housing areas. It also enables users like marthakoop and DocileOrangeCup to sit around unemployed

Yeah, so lets put these people on the streets. I'm sure that will drop the crime rate.....
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Draining that swamp and filling it with shit
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kewldude475 posted...

glitteringfairy posted...

Fine with me. The majority of crime in my cities stems from the public housing areas. It also enables users like marthakoop and DocileOrangeCup to sit around unemployed

Where are the people that actually need the public housing supposed to go? Also, the majority of the crime is due to the fact that the people are poor, I don't think displacing them will help, if anything they'll turn to even more drug sales, and up the crime. There's definitely a better way of lowering crime than this. For starters, we should use those millions of dollars to get people trained and in the work force, not just in some fat cat's pocket

Unfortunately in life a few bad apples ruin it for everybody. We need to find another solution. Public housing obviously isn't working
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hyperpowder posted...

glitteringfairy posted...

Fine with me. The majority of crime in my cities stems from the public housing areas. It also enables users like marthakoop and DocileOrangeCup to sit around unemployed

Yeah, so lets put these people on the streets. I'm sure that will drop the crime rate.....

it's going to be the police problem now....
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kingdrake2 posted...

hyperpowder posted...

glitteringfairy posted...

Fine with me. The majority of crime in my cities stems from the public housing areas. It also enables users like marthakoop and DocileOrangeCup to sit around unemployed

Yeah, so lets put these people on the streets. I'm sure that will drop the crime rate.....

it's going to be the police problem now....

and its not a police problem currently?

TheVipaGTS posted...

kingdrake2 posted...

hyperpowder posted...

glitteringfairy posted...

Fine with me. The majority of crime in my cities stems from the public housing areas. It also enables users like marthakoop and DocileOrangeCup to sit around unemployed

Yeah, so lets put these people on the streets. I'm sure that will drop the crime rate.....

it's going to be the police problem now....

and its not a police problem currently?

It's a terrible problem that doesn't have one easy solution. Enabling people to act out this behavior is not a solution. Again this goes back to me saying one bad apple ruins it for everybody but it's true.
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kewldude475 posted...

glitteringfairy posted...

kewldude475 posted...

glitteringfairy posted...

Fine with me. The majority of crime in my cities stems from the public housing areas. It also enables users like marthakoop and DocileOrangeCup to sit around unemployed

Where are the people that actually need the public housing supposed to go? Also, the majority of the crime is due to the fact that the people are poor, I don't think displacing them will help, if anything they'll turn to even more drug sales, and up the crime. There's definitely a better way of lowering crime than this. For starters, we should use those millions of dollars to get people trained and in the work force, not just in some fat cat's pocket

Unfortunately in life a few bad apples ruin it for everybody. We need to find another solution. Public housing obviously isn't working

Nah, just bad politicians ruin it for people trying to make the best out of a bad situation.

I usually agree with your posts, but I def disagree on this one

I'm not talking about Trump. He's definitely in the wrong here. I'm talking about people that resort to dealing drugs and murdering people because the government pays for their living, they aren't required to get a real job and contribute to society and instead decide to live a life of crime because it's easy

Atleast that's the way it is inNashville. I know not everywhere is the same. But if you don't believe just skim the Metropolitan Nashville police Facebook page
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glitteringfairy posted...

TheVipaGTS posted...

kingdrake2 posted...

hyperpowder posted...

glitteringfairy posted...

Fine with me. The majority of crime in my cities stems from the public housing areas. It also enables users like marthakoop and DocileOrangeCup to sit around unemployed

Yeah, so lets put these people on the streets. I'm sure that will drop the crime rate.....

it's going to be the police problem now....

and its not a police problem currently?

It's a terrible problem that doesn't have one easy solution. Enabling people to act out this behavior is not a solution. Again this goes back to me saying one bad apple ruins it for everybody but it's true.

Again, how is putting them on the streets going to help the situation?

glitteringfairy posted...

I'm talking about people that resort to dealing drugs and murdering people because the government pays for their living, they aren't required to get a real job and contribute to society and instead decide to live a life of crime because it's easy

I don't think the government paying for their living is the reason they deal drugs and/or murder people since the vast majority of people who are on government assistance don't do those things.
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glitteringfairy posted...

kewldude475 posted...

glitteringfairy posted...

kewldude475 posted...

glitteringfairy posted...

Fine with me. The majority of crime in my cities stems from the public housing areas. It also enables users like marthakoop and DocileOrangeCup to sit around unemployed

Where are the people that actually need the public housing supposed to go? Also, the majority of the crime is due to the fact that the people are poor, I don't think displacing them will help, if anything they'll turn to even more drug sales, and up the crime. There's definitely a better way of lowering crime than this. For starters, we should use those millions of dollars to get people trained and in the work force, not just in some fat cat's pocket

Unfortunately in life a few bad apples ruin it for everybody. We need to find another solution. Public housing obviously isn't working

Nah, just bad politicians ruin it for people trying to make the best out of a bad situation.

I usually agree with your posts, but I def disagree on this one

I'm not talking about Trump. He's definitely in the wrong here. I'm talking about people that resort to dealing drugs and murdering people because the government pays for their living, they aren't required to get a real job and contribute to society and instead decide to live a life of crime because it's easy

Wait, you think people are motivated to deal drugs and murder because of housing assistance?.......what?

You think taking away their housing will stop people from drug dealing?......uh what?
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kewldude475 posted...

Again, the problem is bad/greedy politicians, one bad apple shouldn't ruin things for everyone. It doesn't have to be that way, politicians just choose to see it that way to give themselves a reason to line their pockets. Don't give them a free pass they just want money no matter who is affected

Dude I'm not talking about the politicians. Unless your blaming everyone's life choices on politicians then idk what to tell you. My gf grew up dirt ass poor in a single wide trailer in North Carolina. She didn't grow up to a degenerate. She made the conscious decision to improve her life
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glitteringfairy posted...

they aren't required to get a real job and contribute to society and instead decide to live a life of crime because it's easy

So putting them on the streets will make them say "Hey..I'm gonna top taking the easy route and get a job...we all know how easy it is for homeless people to get a job"...No, they're probably going to resort to the crime even harder to make more money. I can see here your logic is trying to go but it relies on a heavy amount of "best case scenario"...its not going to happen the way you think it will....and don't give me this "one bad apple" bull shit...that bad apple likely won't change and will continue dabbling in crime...all you do in that situation is hurt the others for no reason other than greed.

I'm saying enabling people to sit on their asses and not have to pay for anything and get a real job makes it easy for them to resort to crime.
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glitteringfairy posted...

I'm saying enabling people to sit on their asses and not have to pay for anything and get a real job makes it easy for them to resort to crime.

Except that there is no evidence of this. Time after time it's been shown that people on gov't assistance are less likely to commit crimes than those of similar economic backgrounds who don't receive the assistance.
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It sort of reminds me of the city where they got an apartment building set up for homeless people to live in for free.
People were mad and saying things like "it's not fair that I work my ass off to barely live and they get to sit in the apartment for free!"

Except that by giving the homeless people homes, they managed to save money. Less hospital visits, less police checks, more money from tourism, less drugs being used, etc. Without even getting into the fact that more homeless people were able to leave the situation by having access to a stable home / shower / etc.
But because of the crab mentality, people freak out over "people getting things for free"

glitteringfairy posted...

I'm saying enabling people to sit on their asses and not have to pay for anything and get a real job makes it easy for them to resort to crime.

You do realize most people on assistant living have some sort of job or disabled?

Hell my mom was on assistant living when I was growing up as she was a waitress. She ended up getting her degree, and now makes 80k a year and owns her own home.

I swear "the privileged" children of my generation are so delusional.
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Yea the whole "it's not fair!" Mentality is a dumb one. Newsflash, you're likely still living better than they are. Things like this give them acces to showers and facilities that can help them get back on their feet. Sure some take advantage of it but their quality of life overall is still likely not the best. If you want to quit your job and live like they do then have at it but enough of this "feel sorry for me because I worked hard! No fair!" Bull shit.

glitteringfairy posted...

I'm saying enabling people to sit on their asses and not have to pay for anything and get a real job makes it easy for them to resort to crime.

This ignores so many fucking factors of why people are in that situation to begin with.

And we all know how easy it is to get a job if you're homeless, right? Right?!

Doesn't ALL housing aid help real estate companies?

It means they have more customers with more money to spend on properties
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KarmaMuffin posted...

It sort of reminds me of the city where they got an apartment building set up for homeless people to live in for free.
People were mad and saying things like "it's not fair that I work my ass off to barely live and they get to sit in the apartment for free!"

Except that by giving the homeless people homes, they managed to save money. Less hospital visits, less police checks, more money from tourism, less drugs being used, etc. Without even getting into the fact that more homeless people were able to leave the situation by having access to a stable home / shower / etc.
But because of the crab mentality, people freak out over "people getting things for free"

That didn't happen when this was actually put in practice in the 70's. The housing projects quickly became slums and dens for criminals, and the end result is that they had to demolish more housing units than they built because crime got so bad.

The Boondocks were making fun of the crabs-in-a-bucket mentality. It wasn't meant to be an endorsement of public housing.
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Mal_Fet posted...

Doesn't ALL housing aid help real estate companies?

Trump cut the budget for all Federal aid except when the money goes directly to a private landlord, a case which directly benefits Trump to the tune of millions of dollars per year. In those other cases, where no private landlord is involved, the housing aid did not directly help a real estate company.
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