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Zikten
04/25/17 11:51:33 AM
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@Mead
@Erik_P

I'm moving soon to a new state, and a new life. And in the spirit of that, I want to clear the air a little about my controversy. I am not a racist. I will never stop saying that. Because it's true. I think the original topic on reddit that people are pointing at was deleted cause I couldn't find it last time I looked. but I remember just trying to explain why I was modded on CE. and again, just like when i was modded, people misunderstood me. It shouldn't be hard to believe since you all know I am awkward. All I said was that I did not believe in the jewish faith.

And I pointed to the holocaust as an example to disprove the religion, because to me, it makes no sense how God could let that happen. People thought I was saying the Jews DESERVED it. which is nowhere near what I meant. But people rush to judgement online with little evidence. I am used to this, over the years. I have no reason to hate Jews.

They have never done anything to me. The only shred of evidence my detractors have to cling to is that I have in the past mentioned not being a fan of the Israeli government. But a government and a religion are 2 very different things, and the reasons for not liking them, likewise. I have my political opinions. But race does not come into it. I know there is a chance this will fall on deaf ears and people will still just say I am full of shit. but I had to try. I know myself and no matter what you think of me, I will never lose sight of that.
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Thunder_54
04/25/17 11:56:20 AM
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This is the internet, bro. Chill. You're good. Consider the air "cleared"
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Blighboy
04/25/17 12:00:36 PM
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Have you even posted here in like a year

Nobody cares
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RCtheWSBC
04/25/17 12:04:42 PM
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No one cares about you. Please get real friends.
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Doctor Foxx
04/25/17 12:05:34 PM
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Do you think old testament God is nice or something? Completely miss the book of Job? God dishes out suffering. How does that disprove anything?
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Zikten
04/25/17 12:14:02 PM
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RCtheWSBC posted...
No one cares about you. Please get real friends.

why are you so mean but friends with Jen who is nice to me?
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Zikten
04/25/17 12:14:51 PM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
Do you think old testament God is nice or something? Completely miss the book of Job? God dishes out suffering. How does that disprove anything?

what do you want to hear? I'm autistic. so sue me
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Doctor Foxx
04/25/17 12:18:22 PM
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Zikten posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...
Do you think old testament God is nice or something? Completely miss the book of Job? God dishes out suffering. How does that disprove anything?

what do you want to hear? I'm autistic. so sue me

To stop talking about the holocaust or suggesting it disproves a religion. That is if you don't want to be called racist. Not everyone that is autistic jumps to those conclusions. Some of us do OK.
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Junpeiclover
04/25/17 12:18:40 PM
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Zikten posted...
RCtheWSBC posted...
No one cares about you. Please get real friends.

why are you so mean but friends with Jen who is nice to me?


To be fair, she did say please
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slacker03150
04/25/17 12:20:03 PM
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I didn't know you were moving, whats up?
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Claude_Frollo
04/25/17 12:20:17 PM
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I don't see why you feel you need to explain anything to those two posters of all people.
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Zikten
04/25/17 12:20:41 PM
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Zangulus posted...
Racist fuckbag.

sigh......did you even read my first post?
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Zikten
04/25/17 12:21:13 PM
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slacker03150 posted...
I didn't know you were moving, whats up?

moving from Washington to Alaska in like 3 or 4 weeks. probably driving up through British Columbia
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Zikten
04/25/17 12:21:41 PM
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Claude_Frollo posted...
I don't see why you feel you need to explain anything to those two posters of all people.

they are 2 people who particularly accused me
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Doctor Foxx
04/25/17 12:23:34 PM
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Zikten posted...
Claude_Frollo posted...
I don't see why you feel you need to explain anything to those two posters of all people.

they are 2 people who particularly accused me

The lady doth protest too much, methinks
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Zikten
04/25/17 12:27:35 PM
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Foxx you have always hated me for some reason. I don't know what your problem is with me. anyway, I guess I'm just gonna try and ignore the jerks because I don't intend to stop posting here. not everyone here hates me, and I refuse to let a few people drive me off the board. this is the home board for me, for most of my like 15 years or more on this site.
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ZiggiStardust
04/25/17 12:27:53 PM
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lol who cares, ok?
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Junpeiclover
04/25/17 12:28:48 PM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
The lady doth protest too much, methinks


this wouldve made way more sense if the poster mentioned said it
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Erik_P
04/25/17 12:30:02 PM
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Tag
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Mead
04/25/17 12:31:41 PM
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Zikten posted...
people misunderstood me


Hearing a lot of this of late.

Maybe you misunderstand yourself.
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slacker03150
04/25/17 12:32:19 PM
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Zikten posted...
moving from Washington to Alaska in like 3 or 4 weeks. probably driving up through British Columbia


Congrats! I know they have beautiful summers up there, but the winters look terrible. What is the reason for the move?
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Doctor Foxx
04/25/17 12:32:28 PM
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I don't hate you, I'm simply baffled by your denial of some things. You've also left this board so many times that it's not surprising seeing you come back over and over. Your focus on and energy into denying your behavior is the weird thing. If you're not a racist why do you spend so much time trying to get ahead of people calling you racist and advertising to the world that you're not racist? The whole thing is weird.

Hopefully Alaska is better for you.
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Zikten
04/25/17 12:33:50 PM
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Zangulus posted...
Yes. Yes I did. You're still a scum bag. You just want people to like you. It ain't going to happen.

you don't get it. I wasn't even using the spectrum in the way your accusing me of. maybe you read my first post but you clearly didn't understand it. whatever. I'm just not gonna talk to you, if your gonna be this way.
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wolfy42
04/25/17 12:34:20 PM
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Stop eating at taco bell and it'll eventually happen.
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ZiggiStardust
04/25/17 12:34:42 PM
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lol what's it like to actually care what a bunch of strangers on the internet think of you?
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Erik_P
04/25/17 12:35:09 PM
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Using your issues as an excuse for saying racist, anti Semitic things won't ever work.
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Mead
04/25/17 12:35:22 PM
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wolfy42 posted...
Stop eating at taco bell and it'll eventually happen.


Lol

Please never stop being you
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Zikten
04/25/17 12:35:48 PM
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slacker03150 posted...
Congrats! I know they have beautiful summers up there, but the winters look terrible. What is the reason for the move?

my dad used to be in the army, and in the 80's we were up there on an army base. My dad always has liked Alaska and wanted to go back. my brother got a job up there like 15 years ago and has been living up there in Anchorage. and now he has a family there. And my parents finally retired and my youngest sister finished highschool so now we are going back up. almost my entire family will be there so that's why I am going with them. I don't have much reason to stay down here anyway
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FatalAccident
04/25/17 12:38:00 PM
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lol i vaguely remember the username but forreal tho

whoooooo

even

is

you

fam
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este914
04/25/17 12:41:37 PM
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Erik_P posted...
Tag

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Jen0125
04/25/17 12:59:22 PM
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so your whole thing is because the holocaust happened you don't think judaism is a valid religion?

how does that even make sense? isn't the huge crux of religious peoples argument about why anything bad happens is due to free will? "god" lets bad shit happen to people of all religion. so do you not believe in any religion?
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Tezlok
04/25/17 1:04:12 PM
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I don't believe in any Earth religion except maybe Buddhism. I think there might be a god but I doubt anyone has gotten it correct
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Mead
04/25/17 1:17:20 PM
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Tezlok posted...
I don't believe in any Earth religion except maybe Buddhism. I think there might be a god but I doubt anyone has gotten it correct


Okay ty
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RCtheWSBC
04/25/17 1:27:27 PM
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Zikten posted...
RCtheWSBC posted...
No one cares about you. Please get real friends.

why are you so mean but friends with Jen who is nice to me?

What does this even mean? Is there some transitional property of friendship?

You've dragged this out for far too long. People here do not need or want your life updates; there's no air to clear. I hope you get some real people to confide in.
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Kana
04/25/17 1:28:53 PM
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Zikten, you really don't seem to have much knowledge of Judaism or of the Jewish people, certainly not enough to make sweeping judgments of why and how the Holocaust happened. I didn't read your original post so I don't know if your current account of it is accurate or not, but it was still an incredibly hamfisted thing to say as I'm reading it right now. You seem to be trying damage control more than anything right now and that's not going to help you at all.
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wolfy42
04/25/17 1:33:33 PM
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RCtheWSBC posted...
Zikten posted...
RCtheWSBC posted...
No one cares about you. Please get real friends.

why are you so mean but friends with Jen who is nice to me?

What does this even mean? Is there some transitional property of friendship?

You've dragged this out for far too long. People here do not need or want your life updates; there's no air to clear. I hope you get some real people to confide in.



It's the friendship property.

If Jen+You=Like and Jen+RC=Like then RC+You=Like

It's kinda like the enemy of my enemy is my friend, but instead it's the friend of my friend is my enemy...oh wait!!!
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Mead
04/25/17 1:36:36 PM
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Kana posted...
Zikten, you really don't seem to have much knowledge of Judaism or of the Jewish people, certainly not enough to make sweeping judgments of why and how the Holocaust happened. I didn't read your original post so I don't know if your current account of it is accurate or not, but it was still an incredibly hamfisted thing to say as I'm reading it right now. You seem to be trying damage control more than anything right now and that's not going to help you at all.


Stop misunderstanding him!
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J_Dawg983
04/25/17 1:37:00 PM
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I'm not sure on the original post but it sounds like a reasonable explaination. I'm sure if you used another example people wouldn't be as up in arms but whenever someone brings up the holocaust without simply saying it's the worst thing ever seems to get shit on by everyone.
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Mead
04/25/17 1:39:05 PM
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J_Dawg983 posted...
I'm not sure on the original post but it sounds like a reasonable explaination. I'm sure if you used another example people wouldn't be as up in arms but whenever someone brings up the holocaust without simply saying it's the worst thing ever seems to get shit on by everyone.


He's making it seem far less offensive now than what he originally posted, he got put in purgatory and his reddit comments were removed
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Blighboy
04/25/17 1:45:02 PM
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My friendship is like a web, its tendrils ensnare everyone it touches.
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shipwreckers
04/25/17 1:53:38 PM
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Zikten posted...
And I pointed to the holocaust as an example to disprove the religion, because to me, it makes no sense how God could let that happen.


This has to be the absolute WORST reasoning I've ever seen to believe / not believe in the Jewish (OT biblical) God. Even in the actual Biblical accounts, the Israelites repeatedly fell under some of the most horrible life circumstances imaginable (e.g. Assyrian and Babylonian captivity which puts both the Egyptian captivity, and even the holocaust to task).

It's not just the Jews / Old Testament where I see this argument applied. People have this "Nanny God" concept that if God is good and sovereign, then nothing bad should ever happen to us, which is completely out-of-touch with both historical records and Biblical accounts. This world is jacked up, and even the most devout, steadfast followers of the religion recorded through history (the "prophets / apostles / etc.") endured immense persecution, imprisonments, brutal beatings, and even martyrdom.

TL'DR Version - If you base the validity of a religion strictly on the good or bad circumstances of life, then you're doing it wrong.
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Melon_Master
04/25/17 2:00:20 PM
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Mead posted...
Zikten posted...
people misunderstood me


Hearing a lot of this of late.

Maybe you misunderstand yourself.

I'm glad I read the topic before posting, as I was going to say this. ^^^ (But long winded lol)
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Kana
04/25/17 2:01:17 PM
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Mead posted...
Kana posted...
Zikten, you really don't seem to have much knowledge of Judaism or of the Jewish people, certainly not enough to make sweeping judgments of why and how the Holocaust happened. I didn't read your original post so I don't know if your current account of it is accurate or not, but it was still an incredibly hamfisted thing to say as I'm reading it right now. You seem to be trying damage control more than anything right now and that's not going to help you at all.

Stop misunderstanding him!

Hey I'm just saying man
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ZiggiStardust
04/25/17 2:09:59 PM
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Kana posted...
Hey I'm just saying man

man?
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HelIWithoutSin
04/25/17 2:14:53 PM
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Tezlok
04/25/17 2:52:18 PM
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Zangulus posted...
Zikten posted...
Zangulus posted...
Yes. Yes I did. You're still a scum bag. You just want people to like you. It ain't going to happen.

you don't get it. I wasn't even using the spectrum in the way your accusing me of. maybe you read my first post but you clearly didn't understand it. whatever. I'm just not gonna talk to you, if your gonna be this way.


There was literally no reason for you to throw up the spectrum except as a defense.

I was explaining to Fox why I am apparently stupid
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Mead
04/25/17 3:10:56 PM
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Zikten posted...
this is the home board for me, for most of my like 15 years or more on this site.


Yet you have been announcing that you are leaving the board for good, continuously, for years
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BillySastard
04/25/17 3:16:47 PM
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Hating Jews is racist?
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