FF Characters that Bartz will have won more contest matches than: Cecil, Golbez, Kain, Rydia, Celes, Ultros, Midgar Zolom, Kuja, Sin, Vaan, Balthier (technically), Lightning
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~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~ A = Strongest Character B = Character Weaker than A C = Character Weaker than B To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA
SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote. This is the best example of SFF we've ever seen. However take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make perfect sense.
Extrapolated Standings - The mathematical "strength" of a contestant that's determined based on their performance relative to the rest of the field. This number is typically based on the contest entrant's loss, but adjustments are sometimes made. See above for a watered down explanation for how the stats are calculated.
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Revolver was six years ago when Metal Gear was a shadow of what it was today and Ness was with Mewtwo in the poll.
Revolver was almost unanimously the favorite anyway, and Pac-Man beat Ness hard enough to remain the favorite; Ness was closer to Travis Touchdown by the end of it.
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Ah, but the question is, is it really Bartz who's winning that match, or is it Gilgamesh? Now, maybe I'm underestimating FFV fans (it's on my list of upcoming games to play, I swear), but with Gilgamesh's penchant for hilariously hammy lines and the fact that he keeps showing up in other games, I just get the feeling he might be the strongest character from FFV, which would make it just the second game (I think) where the strongest character is an antagonist.
Incidentally, the first such game is also a Final Fantasy game. (Come on, for all of his well-publicized flops, you've got to admit that Kefka's the strongest FFVI character in GameFAQs contests, right? Well, okay, maybe not; it's tough to tell since the game really hasn't gotten all that much representation. Terra's 2-3; Kefka's 5-7. Kefka padded his resume with Villains Contest wins, but Terra had a Female Bracket win so her record might be a bit padded as well. So I'm not really sure what to think.)
Uh...well, since I obviously have no clue what I'm talking about anymore, let's just agree that Bartz/Gilgamesh is picking up the win.
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From: HaRRicH | #009 and Pac-Man beat Ness hard enough to remain the favorite
No, he didn't. That was an SFF beatdown for Mewtwo.
Pac-Man beats Crash, but it won't be by more than 55/45 unless there's some sort of weird SFF involved. Pac-Man doesn't come close to beating Ryu Hayabusa.
I don't think anybody cares about one individual Pac-Man ghost. It's about the trio. If it were Pac-Man vs. all three ghosts here, I think Pac-Man would take it. Just one? Ehhhh.
I think Crash has a real chance. I don't know if I'll pick him, but his chances are better than I wager most people will give him.
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LusterSoldier- | Posted 10/8/2011 5:32:27 AM | message detail It's somewhat amazing how quickly the site traffic on GameFAQs declined. Just a year and a half ago, we were still getting over 100000 votes on non-contest polls. Now we are struggling just to break 60000 votes. It seems like 60000 votes is the new "100000" these days. Our highest votal of this year was 89202, which was on an age poll. But that was early in the year, when average votals were around 65000, due to MvC3 and Pokemon B/W bringing in more visitors.
There's definitely more to the traffic decline than Wikis and Youtube being used more heavily for game help. I think there has to be other factors that went into the quick decline in traffic.
From the previous topic:
IngmarBirdman | Posted 10/8/2011 11:32:44 AM | message detail Do we have any speculation about the falling votals of late and whether the scale-back is equal across demographics? I'm curious if the site loses enough traffic, then maybe 90's games that are down-trending could reverse the process because more people that comprise the core of the site stick around and support these games / characters who were slightly stronger in earlier polls.
Although the average age of our voters has been increasing over the past several years, it hasn't had any effect on votals. Remember that we were still getting over 100000 votes last year on non-contest polls at a time where the average age was about 21 1/2 and only about 23% of the site was under the age of 18.
What I've noticed was when votals began to collapse last year, the percentage of votes from North America began to decrease in favor of an increased percentage of votes from Europe. Percentage of votes from each continent during the past 3 years:
2009 has a whole had nearly 78% of the votes from North America, but now that's getting close to 76% right now. Europe is gaining more dominance in the polls, but I think that's because the drop off in votals was because traffic from North America decreased by a greater amount relative to any drop off in traffic from Europe.
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I don't think anybody cares about one individual Pac-Man ghost. It's about the trio. If it were Pac-Man vs. all three ghosts here, I think Pac-Man would take it. Just one? Ehhhh.
4 ghosts actually, but you have a point.
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I just feel like everyone's taking Pac-Man without giving Crash any consideration, and I think he's got SOME chance there. Pac-Man is low midcard and Crash is high fodder.
In that case Luster, with EU's gradual increase in vote % it sounds like CT will continue its small decline but FF might hold its ground.
I have to admit there are several pairings I did not see coming. DK and K. Rool? Vyse and Galcian? Guybrush and wha... ? I'd give a lot to see Mew Mewtwo plow through the Southwest.
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Strange theme for contest though.Who thought of that?
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No one suggested the idea to Bacon. However, the contest theme is somewhat similar to the "Tag Team Character Battle" that several people suggested in this topic:
At least this contest means that each tag team actually means something, instead of having 2 teams of 2 characters facing off against each other in a match.
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yeah my guess is that Tag team stuck out to him but it's kinda hard toeither get people to nominate siilar tag team ideas or to have him think of tag teams himself
rivalries keep the teams in-series and the fanbases stay for one team based on the series to act like like a regular character battle
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As far as tag-teams go, I actually think the rivals aspect isn't a terrible take on it. The problem is, that tag-teams are a terrible idea to begin with.
Being a good implementation of a bad idea does not really make the rivals contest a good idea.
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From: Ultimaphazon | #030 As far as tag-teams go, I actually think the rivals aspect isn't a terrible take on it. The problem is, that tag-teams are a terrible idea to begin with.
Being a good implementation of a bad idea does not really make the rivals contest a good idea.
I'm probably going to lose a point, but I had to pick Crash and Cortex over Pac-Man and a ghost. Aside from growing up and playing every Crash game, I just cant trust Pac-Man. He's let me down too many times :(
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XIII_rocks posted... I always liked the idea of two matches per "match", total votes win.
Rivalry idea is cool with me. Don't hate it, especially now I've seen the bracket
Except how often would people split their votes? Most people would probably vote the same game's character for both matches.
Anyway, I came back into this topic when I saw some discussion about the potential Round 3 between Samus/Ridley and Big Boss/The Boss and noticed that the 2010 X-Stats actually have Ridley > Big Boss straight-up.
I'm pretty sure nobody would actually take that. LOL X-Stats indeed. (The adjusted X-Stats agree with this, giving Big Boss the win with 58.52% whereas the raw X-Stats have Ridley with 50.33%). The source is obvious, too--Ridley ended up losing directly to Cloud, whereas Big Boss lost directly to Mario. That gives both of them just 2 degrees of losing from the champ, but Mario gets SFFed to hell by Link while Cloud doesn't.
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Honestly, I'd prefer a vanilla 64-character, 24-hour, no-gimmick character battle to any other contest type at this point. It's been what, 6 years since we've had one?
TsunamiXXVIII posted... XIII_rocks posted... I always liked the idea of two matches per "match", total votes win.
Rivalry idea is cool with me. Don't hate it, especially now I've seen the bracket
Except how often would people split their votes? Most people would probably vote the same game's character for both matches.
Anyway, I came back into this topic when I saw some discussion about the potential Round 3 between Samus/Ridley and Big Boss/The Boss and noticed that the 2010 X-Stats actually have Ridley > Big Boss straight-up.
I'm pretty sure nobody would actually take that. LOL X-Stats indeed. (The adjusted X-Stats agree with this, giving Big Boss the win with 58.52% whereas the raw X-Stats have Ridley with 50.33%). The source is obvious, too--Ridley ended up losing directly to Cloud, whereas Big Boss lost directly to Mario. That gives both of them just 2 degrees of losing from the champ, but Mario gets SFFed to hell by Link while Cloud doesn't.
Samus isn't going anywhere. No NN team is going to lose to a non-NN team this year.
There's nothing you could do to make me excited about a normal character contest. You can try to make as vanilla as possible, but it's still going to be everything we've seen a million times before. The ideal contest right now, for me, is games without generational divides.
BlAcK TuRtLe posted... Honestly, I'd prefer a vanilla 64-character, 24-hour, no-gimmick character battle to any other contest type at this point. It's been what, 6 years since we've had one?
Even 2005 had the ToC and Clinkeroth excluded so it's 7.
Long time. I think the 24-hour ship has sailed though, personally. At least for a little while longer.
Except how often would people split their votes? Most people would probably vote the same game's character for both matches.
Probably, but it'd be the times they wouldn't that would be the most interesting. In any given bracket most matches aren't that interesting, unless the concept is entirely new, and even then.
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Kirby trolling us out of finally getting a Mario/Sonic match would be hilarious, but I doubt it happens. More than anything else, Sonic has given people some reason to not despair at the thought of him getting more games - something that was not the case last contest.
I'm pretty confident in saying Guybrush/LeChuck are the weakest in the entire field, though seeing them vs. Kid/Guy might be interesting. I still think the latter wins, based on their hokey names if nothing else.