Current Events > Drunk driver kills 2 after crashing car into child's birthday party

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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/siblings-killed-suspected-intoxicated-driver-crashes-childs-birthday-p-rcna148696

The deceased were 5 and 8 year old siblings.

Read about this earlier. I'd bet money that this wasn't the first time the driver drove drunk and probably has at least one or more DUI charges under her belt. Drinking and driving is treated so lightly when it absolutely shouldn't be.

You hear about stuff like this too often. What surprises me is I've never heard of the parents killing themselves. I feel like that would be a high chance.

After one DUI if you do it a second time you should be banned from driving for life, I am SICK of seeing a person having 20 DUIS on their record.

Curious to find out more about the driver, weird that they didn't release a name despite planning on charging them

Cheater87 posted...

After one DUI if you do it a second time you should be banned from driving for life, I am SICK of seeing a person having 20 DUIS on their record.

People with 20 DUIs on the record often also have 20 Driving While Revokeds on their record. Banning someone from driving doesn't stop them from driving

Jesus fucking Christ. Those poor kids...

lilORANG posted...

People with 20 DUIs on the record often also have 20 Driving While Revokeds on their record. Banning someone from driving doesn't stop them from driving

1st offense, license revocation for a year + defensive driving + mandated meeting attendance.

2nd offense (driving while revoked) - prison.

Death penalty.

is it weird that my brain immediately jumped to that one UK drunk driving ad?

ROBANN_88 posted...

is it weird that my brain immediately jumped to that one UK drunk driving ad?

The one where a car spins/rolls into a crowd of kids?

Cheater87 posted...

After one DUI if you do it a second time you should be banned from driving for life, I am SICK of seeing a person having 20 DUIS on their record.

It should be after one. Seriously, why should a DUI be something where you get a warning? If you fuck up, youre done. And if youre caught driving again illegally after that, the consequence should be severe.

Cheater87 posted...

After one DUI if you do it a second time you should be banned from driving for life, I am SICK of seeing a person having 20 DUIS on their record.

DUI is treated way too leniently. Even when they murder people, it's rare they get double digit years in prison, even after a long history of them.

And yes, if you (generic you, no longer replying to the above poster) choose to get drunk and get in a car and kill people, it should be a fucking murder charge. You didn't accidentally do any of that, you fucking piece of shit.

EDIT: why aren't they releasing the driver's name?! I can understand when you're not sure you have the correct suspect, not wanting to publicly shame the wrong person (ironically, seems like those are the cases the police can't put the name out fast enough). But....they have her fucking car crashed into the fucking building and she's at a party she wasn't invited to, I think the risk of her not being the perpetrator is pretty fucking low!

Cheater87 posted...

After one DUI if you do it a second time you should be banned from driving for life, I am SICK of seeing a person having 20 DUIS on their record.

I used to work with a guy who had like 5 DUIs on his record and only got his license revoked for like a year with no jail time. The worst part is that he would still drive with a suspended license so I could assume he was still drinking and driving.

lilORANG posted...

People with 20 DUIs on the record often also have 20 Driving While Revokeds on their record. Banning someone from driving doesn't stop them from driving

Thats why you put them in jail for a very long time.

ROBANN_88 posted...

is it weird that my brain immediately jumped to that one UK drunk driving ad?

You're not alone.

St0rmFury posted...

The one where a car spins/rolls into a crowd of kids?

yes, exactly

correction: youtube title says it's Irish

lilORANG posted...

People with 20 DUIs on the record often also have 20 Driving While Revokeds on their record. Banning someone from driving doesn't stop them from driving

Well throw them into prison.

DUI in the US should be a one-strike and you're out policy. First time offender? Heavy fine AND lose your license for a year. Second time offender? Jail time.

Euripides posted...

DUI in the US should be a one-strike and you're out policy. First time offender? Heavy fine AND lose your license for a year. Second time offender? Jail time.

yeah but if they took all the second time offenders off the road, they'd lose a source of revenue

looking at google maps not sure what bar she wouldve come from

If you are going to get drunk, do it at home. It's a simple concept that a lot of people don't seem to understand.

Sunburst posted...

If you are going to get drunk, do it at home. It's a simple concept that a lot of people don't seem to understand.

Doing it at home doesn't stop them from leaving though

The video shows that she was going like 60 through a parking lot. She had no idea where she was

lilORANG posted...

People with 20 DUIs on the record often also have 20 Driving While Revokeds on their record. Banning someone from driving doesn't stop them from driving

It shouldn't be like that though. Here in California, if you're caught without a license, your car gets impounded for 30 days. That's a hell of a deterrent for most. You lose your mode of transportation for a month, then you also have to pay $1000+ to get your car out of the lot. And if that's not enough to stop them from drinking and driving, then toss them in jail.

Something tells me that driver may be connected to someone with power if they're hiding her name. I'm gonna be mad if they end up like that chick who killed people in Britain then ran back to the United States to avoid charges or that kid who killed people but got off because of that Afluenza shit

Man whats wrong with Monroe county.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/732b19b5.jpg

thats the path she wouldve taken there. Theres nothing around it and no reason to go there unless she knew somebody there. Maybe someones alcoholic gramma was missing out on the party

projectpat72988 posted...

You hear about stuff like this too often. What surprises me is I've never heard of the parents killing themselves. I feel like that would be a high chance.

more surprised I dont hear about the parents killing the driver tbh. Feel like heat of the moment situations like that would have people seeing red

lilORANG posted...

People with 20 DUIs on the record often also have 20 Driving While Revokeds on their record. Banning someone from driving doesn't stop them from driving

Then ban them from driving and give them a severe punishment.

https://twitter.com/crimewithbobby/status/1782210399070273757

Throw her away for the rest of her life. Literally 0 reason to tolerate people who drink and drive. "I drive better when I'm drunk." Shut the fuck up, no you don't.

gmanthebest posted...

Throw her away for the rest of her life. Literally 0 reason to tolerate people who drink and drive. "I drive better when I'm drunk." Shut the fuck up, no you don't.

I do wonder why people think that.

Not defending it at all but I could see that if being drunk calms someones nerves that it'd make them feel 'more comfortable' behind the wheel and thus they may feel like a better driver.

However, the impaired reaction time that comes along with being drunk definitely outweighs any remote calming effect it may have on someone.

Then again it is more likely a bullshit excuse to justify their drunk driving. They hate being told that they can't do something they want to do so they lie through their teeth

tremain07 posted...

Something tells me that driver may be connected to someone with power if they're hiding her name. I'm gonna be mad if they end up like that chick who killed people in Britain then ran back to the United States to avoid charges or that kid who killed people but got off because of that Afluenza shit

Sounds a bit like this lady here in my county who drove drunk and killed an elderly man in a crosswalk. Her "punishment" was a $1000 fine and having to write an essay. I'm sure the fact she was an attractive lady who worked in the county law office had nothing to do with it.

Some of the issues are that we live in an individualistic, car centric, and alcohol centric environments, don't have great access to healthcare, and don't have great support systems for alcoholics, and addiction is very hard to treat.

You can suspend people's licenses, but they still have to drive to get around. Suspending their license doesn't help with alcoholism and neither does being trapped at home, spending time in jail, or losing a job because you can't drive or were in jail.

We have a car dependent culture that's reluctant to punish people for crimes they commit behind the wheel for some reason and courts seem reluctant to deprive people of their cars because they know they're probably screwing that person over completely if they live in suburban Michigan or something.

Treating the underlying causes is hard and expensive, and in the meantime people have to live and also feel they should be able to do whatever they want. It's all a recipe for disaster.

None of this is to excuse people who drive under the influence. I absolutely hate them. But these are some of the reasons you get people with 10 DUIs before their license gets suspended, and then they continue to drive.

Heartbreaking.

prayers to the deceased

I believe sobriety is important and should be celebrated each and every day.
I do fear drunk driving as just over a week ago we have had a basketball tournament in my town and alcohol was definitely brought in. We are a dry county and for good reason

my kids now like to play out and I watched over the street several times and repeatedly told them to be very careful as there are confused drivers

sad and stressful tbh

FFS. One person possibly wipes out an entire family.

Wow happy birthday f*** that woman, stupid drunk.

Put them in jail and never let them out and let them think about how they just ended children's lives for the rest of their days

Umbreon posted...

Death penalty.

This is one of the few times where a crime this bad is probably better off punished while they're sober and in jail thinking about what they did. Also the inmates will make sure they get punished.

OriginalPlain2 posted...

Heartbreaking.

prayers to the deceased

I believe sobriety is important and should be celebrated each and every day.
I do fear drunk driving as just over a week ago we have had a basketball tournament in my town and alcohol was definitely brought in. We are a dry county and for good reason

my kids now like to play out and I watched over the street several times and repeatedly told them to be very careful as there are confused drivers

sad and stressful tbh

Jesus Christ this is batshit insane.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-for-lana-and-zayns-funeral-services?utm_campaign=p_cp+share-sheet&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook

This is the gofundme for the Mother, who had the two children who was tragically killed, along with her other kid for their medical bills. I contributed and I hope for the best for her family and loved ones. If this happened to me, I would want to strangle the woman myself.

Umbreon posted...

Death penalty.

but the driver's life is sacred

Southernfatman posted...

Read about this earlier. I'd bet money that this wasn't the first time the driver drove drunk and probably has at least one or more DUI charges under her belt. Drinking and driving is treated so lightly when it absolutely shouldn't be.

From what a cop I know told me, the issue with DUIs is that they're a criminal statute so your normal traffic cop that's used to writing tickets all day for "minor" infractions will usually screw it up.
So they're typically get away with it after a lawyer gets involved.

lilORANG posted...

People with 20 DUIs on the record often also have 20 Driving While Revokeds on their record. Banning someone from driving doesn't stop them from driving

Unfortunately he's a outlier but my best friend got 1 dui and he hasn't driven since. Which is odd cause he drove all the time before ever getting a license.

He shoulda had his license back ages ago but it happened in a state he currently does not live in and he has to go back that state to resolve it. Added problem weed is legal in his state so he smokes state it happened in its illegal and he has to do a drug test. Plus like 12 hour trip. Kinda hard to pull off when you can't legally drive

Tropicalwood posted...

From what a cop I know told me, the issue with DUIs is that they're a criminal statute so your normal traffic cop that's used to writing tickets all day for "minor" infractions will usually screw it up one way or another.
So they'll typically get away with it after a lawyer gets involved.

I knew a guy who had a dui dropped cause the cop let him drive away after issuing a citation for it lmao. Cop figured dude was only like a mile from home so no biggie