Current Events > Trump Trials General Part 16: It's Not Going to End, Is It?

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King_Rial
04/22/24 12:07:55 PM
#151:


Blanche really Trumped up his opening statements.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/9be529be.jpg
Admitted to the crime, lied a bunch of times, presented info that he want supposed to, and got several sustained objections on the record.

All this knowing that there would be no real consequences for his actions.

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Heineken14
04/22/24 12:08:51 PM
#152:


Is there any non-Twitter ways to keep up with this?

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King_Rial
04/22/24 12:10:01 PM
#153:


This is what I'm using.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/live-blog/trump-hush-money-trial-live-updates-opening-statements-rcna148737

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Takuya_Lee
04/22/24 12:14:25 PM
#154:


King_Rial posted...
Blanche really Trumped up his opening statements.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/9be529be.jpg
Admitted to the crime, lied a bunch of times, presented info that he want supposed to, and got several sustained objections on the record.

All this knowing that there would be no real consequences for his actions.

I wouldn't be so sure about the no real consequences part. Not with this judge in a criminal trial.

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TheGoldenEel
04/22/24 12:18:16 PM
#155:


Heineken14 posted...
Is there any non-Twitter ways to keep up with this?
nyt has a good live updates feed but its paywalled

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King_Rial
04/22/24 12:18:18 PM
#156:


Takuya_Lee posted...
I wouldn't be so sure about the no real consequences part. Not with this judge in a criminal trial.
I'm talking about the actions of Blanche giving his opening statement. He blatantly flouted rulings and just said whatever he felt like, even if they were lies. I doubt sanctions will be issued based on his opening. There were no real consequences.

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Takuya_Lee
04/22/24 12:22:58 PM
#157:


King_Rial posted...
I'm talking about the actions of Blanche giving his opening statement. He blatantly flouted rulings and just said whatever he felt like, even if they were lies. I doubt sanctions will be issued based on his opening. There were no real consequences.

I stand by my statement. There's also this thing called the New York State Bar

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Starks
04/22/24 12:27:17 PM
#158:


Trump's lawyer also wanted to make clear to the jury that it's okay to be a scumbag.

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CableZL
04/22/24 12:31:09 PM
#159:


Court is adjourned for today. Contempt hearing in the morning at 9:30AM eastern. Jury will return at 11 eastern.

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King_Rial
04/22/24 12:32:59 PM
#160:


Takuya_Lee posted...
I stand by my statement. There's also this thing called the New York State Bar
From your lips to God's ears.

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CSCA33
04/22/24 1:04:41 PM
#161:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/rscharf_/status/1782431758983504102

They've worked out an agreement with the bond in the civil fraud case. Now it's up to the appellate courts to decide on the appeal itself. Not sure when that's gonna happen.
is there $175m in the account? Where did the money come from, trump?


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CableZL
04/22/24 1:05:39 PM
#162:


CSCA33 posted...
is there $175m in the account? Where did the money come from, trump?

I believe so, and yeah, it came from Trump. Knight Specialty Insurance is paying the bond on Trump's behalf and the account with the cash in it is collateral, from what I understand.

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ReiRei89
04/22/24 1:09:24 PM
#163:


Before people think this is a W for Trump, it isn't. He's going to lose the appeal which means he has to pay the total amount of the judgment. Not just the $175 million for the bond.

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CableZL
04/22/24 1:16:13 PM
#164:


ReiRei89 posted...
Before people think this is a W for Trump, it isn't. He's going to lose the appeal which means he has to pay the total amount of the judgment. Not just the $175 million for the bond.

Yeah, that's the latest goalpost move for Trump supporters.

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GTA1984
04/22/24 1:25:23 PM
#166:


darkace77450 posted...
I'm happy it's not. I too would love to see him sulking, but I don't want him turning this into anymore of a free campaign ad than the media's already allowing him to do.

My thoughts as well. Of all the cases this is the one where it not being televised is not that important to the American public. I do wish they were recording it for the historical value with plans to release it in the future however again it is not a big deal.

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ThePieReborn
04/22/24 1:27:18 PM
#167:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

I would wager about a year or so at the NY intermediate court of appeals. After that, it's discretionary.

Unfortunately, the statutes and judgments implicate grounds for a petition for certiorari to SCOTUS, with some potential constitutional arguments. The upside is that if we clear the few de novo review issues and any evidentiary issues raised (I'll be able to better evaluate whenever the gaggle of dipshits get around to filing their brief for the appeal), the judgment will almost certainly stand because Engoron went to great lengths to thoroughly outline his decision.

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CADE_FOSTER
04/22/24 1:34:56 PM
#168:


https://youtu.be/gtHmKMoZ8K4?si=r9CtEz0ce2-0O8tc

she is so stupid
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RchHomieQuanChi
04/22/24 1:35:35 PM
#169:


CADE_FOSTER posted...
https://youtu.be/gtHmKMoZ8K4?si=r9CtEz0ce2-0O8tc

she is so stupid

Trump only hires the best

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CableZL
04/22/24 1:35:49 PM
#170:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/ee20e350.jpg

They're soooooo close to the goal!


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thronedfire2
04/22/24 2:06:40 PM
#171:


CADE_FOSTER posted...
https://youtu.be/gtHmKMoZ8K4?si=r9CtEz0ce2-0O8tc

she is so stupid

shes pretty though

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CADE_FOSTER
04/22/24 2:07:32 PM
#172:


thronedfire2 posted...
shes pretty though
nah she is ugly on the outside and inside
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UnsteadyOwl
04/22/24 2:08:04 PM
#173:


CableZL posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/ee20e350.jpg

They're soooooo close to the goal!
Started on Feb 16th. If they keep raising money at that rate, it'll only take them 31 years to reach their $355M goal!

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LearntoRead
04/22/24 2:13:00 PM
#174:


CableZL posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/ee20e350.jpg

They're soooooo close to the goal!

I feel a better picture would help them slightly. That face does not inspire me to help, assuming I ever wanted to.
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RchHomieQuanChi
04/22/24 2:15:03 PM
#176:


LearntoRead posted...
I feel a better picture would help them slightly. That face does not inspire me to help, assuming I ever wanted to.

Nothing says "Please donate to this good cause" like a picture of a man who definitely looks like he's guilty of what he was accused of.

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masterpug53
04/22/24 2:15:26 PM
#177:


CableZL posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/ee20e350.jpg

They're soooooo close to the goal!

Him: (I have no idea what I'm doing)
Her: (I have no idea what I'm doing)
Him: "You ever feel like we're thinking the same thing?"
Her: "omg totally!"

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ClayGuida
04/22/24 2:28:43 PM
#178:


https://twitter.com/JoyceWhiteVance/status/1782471123197935841

They are all truly children.

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CableZL
04/22/24 2:41:54 PM
#179:


Yeah, Michael Cohen should really shut the hell up.

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RchHomieQuanChi
04/22/24 3:13:28 PM
#180:


This is gonna be a clown show

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CADE_FOSTER
04/22/24 3:14:30 PM
#181:


RchHomieQuanChi posted...
This is gonna be a clown show
already is
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jefffan
04/22/24 3:18:04 PM
#182:


Maybe its a good thing this isn't televised

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CableZL
04/22/24 3:48:36 PM
#183:


https://twitter.com/hugolowell/status/1782496361461485586

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ZMythos
04/22/24 3:50:42 PM
#184:


What's FPOTUS?

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TomClark
04/22/24 3:52:15 PM
#185:


ZMythos posted...
What's FPOTUS?

Former President I'm assuming.

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ClayGuida
04/22/24 3:52:49 PM
#186:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/a50e577d.jpg

These are all threats. Just like frivolous impeachments. Hopefully the people who need to hear this are listening.

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ZMythos
04/22/24 3:53:03 PM
#187:


TomClark posted...
Former President I'm assuming.


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Cemith
04/22/24 3:56:58 PM
#188:


ZMythos posted...
What's FPOTUS?
Flatulent President of the United States

Low hanging fruit, maybe, but I'm hungry for fruit.

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Tyranthraxus
04/22/24 5:10:34 PM
#189:


ZMythos posted...
What's FPOTUS?
Fuckin piece of totally unctuous shit


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GTA1984
04/22/24 5:27:30 PM
#190:


ClayGuida posted...
https://twitter.com/JoyceWhiteVance/status/1782471123197935841

They are all truly children.

Agree. Cohen's nicknames for Trump makes him look just as bad as Trump does. Furthermore I think that what is good for the goose is good for the gander. With Cohen constantly attacking Trump I really wish they would have put a gag order on him as well.

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tremain07
04/22/24 5:32:25 PM
#191:


Cohen IS as bad as Trump the dude is pond scum sleezy yet he gets to go on MSNBC, CNN and other places just because he trash talks Trump, I hate the media for keeping that asshole around, the dip shits still keep Scaramouchi around too he was on some news show a couple days ago talking about how Trump is gonna lose the election. Don't be surprised see that dumb lawyer hobba end up on a news network once she eventually gets fired

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darkace77450
04/22/24 5:41:49 PM
#192:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/NormEisen/status/1782434629909106895

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ThePieReborn
04/22/24 5:45:38 PM
#193:


darkace77450 posted...
From Habba, who objected to nothing, to Blanche, who objects to everything.
The tweet is referencing Blanche's opening argument, I believe. It appears references were made to verboten topics.

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Heineken14
04/22/24 5:46:29 PM
#194:


tremain07 posted...
Cohen IS as bad as Trump the dude is pond scum sleezy yet he gets to go on MSNBC, CNN and other places just because he trash talks Trump, I hate the media for keeping that asshole around, the dip shits still keep Scaramouchi around too he was on some news show a couple days ago talking about how Trump is gonna lose the election. Don't be surprised see that dumb lawyer hobba end up on a news network once she eventually gets fired

Yeah, just like Avenatti back in the day

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darkace77450
04/22/24 5:49:12 PM
#195:


Trump had himself quite the meltdown on not-Twitter two hours ago. I'm not going to link to the site, but here is a copy and paste job from eight consecutive posts.

IF A PRESIDENT DOES NOT HAVE IMMUNITY, THE COURT WILL BE OPENING THE FLOODGATES TO PROSECUTING FORMER PRESIDENTS. AN OPPOSING HOSTILE PARTY WILL BE DOING IT FOR ANY REASON, ALL OF THE TIME. THIS IS NOT WHAT THE FOUNDERS HAD IN MIND!

Page Two: No Immunity for a President would make it very difficult for him or her to do the job of protecting our Country. A current President would always be thinking, with every move made, whether or not there would be a Criminal Prosecution after leaving Office!

A key Constitutional issue is whether or not a President should have Immunity. The answer is YES! During the hearing in the D.C. Circuit, the other side actually conceded two very important points, either of which would give the critical Immunity argument to us. If for any reason it were held that a President doesnt have Immunity, then Crooked Joe Biden, after he leaves Office, could be charged for the horrible and dangerous job he is doing on the Southern Border, the Afghanistan Disaster with all of its Death, Destruction, and Surrender, or his quid pro quo on Ukraine, where he said, on tape, that if they dont get rid of an Unfriendly Prosecutor, they dont get the $1 Billion in Funding from the United States (He then clapped his hands, and said, in effect, I won!)..

WITHOUT IMMUNITY, IT WOULD BE VERY HARD FOR A PRESIDENT TO ENJOY HIS OR HER GOLDEN YEARS OF RETIREMENT. THEY WOULD BE UNDER SIEGE BY RADICAL, OUT OF CONTROL PROSECUTORS, MUCH LIKE I AM (BUT WITHOUT THE RETIREMENT WORD!).

A PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES MUST HAVE FULL IMMUNITY, WITHOUT WHICH IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE FOR HIM/HER TO PROPERLY FUNCTION. ANY MISTAKE, EVEN IF WELL INTENDED, WOULD BE MET WITH ALMOST CERTAIN INDICTMENT BY THE OPPOSING PARTY AT TERM END. EVEN EVENTS THAT CROSS THE LINE MUST FALL UNDER TOTAL IMMUNITY, OR IT WILL BE YEARS OF TRAUMA TRYING TO DETERMINE GOOD FROM BAD. THERE MUST BE CERTAINTY. EXAMPLE: YOU CANT STOP POLICE FROM DOING THE JOB OF STRONG & EFFECTIVE CRIME PREVENTION BECAUSE YOU WANT TO GUARD AGAINST THE SELDOM SEEN ROGUE COP. SOMETIMES YOU JUST HAVE TO LIVE WITH GREAT BUT SLIGHTLY IMPERFECT. ALL PRESIDENTS MUST HAVE COMPLETE & TOTAL PRESIDENTIAL IMMUNITY, OR THE AUTHORITY & DECISIVENESS OF A PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES WILL BE STRIPPED & GONE FOREVER. HOPEFULLY THIS WILL BE AN EASY DECISION. GOD BLESS THE SUPREME COURT!

The Supreme Court will address the historic question of Presidential Immunity on Thursday, but unfortunately, I will not be able to attend. The Highly Conflicted Judge in the Manhattan D.A. case (Soros-backed Alvin Bragg) has prohibited me from attending. Without Presidential Immunity, the President cannot function, as his Political Opponents will blackmail and extort him with the threat of wrongful prosecution at every turn. We look forward to presenting our case to the Supreme Court.

Without Presidential Immunity, a President will not be able to properly function, or make decisions, in the best interest of the United States of America. Presidents will always be concerned, and even paralyzed, by the prospect of wrongful prosecution and retaliation, after they leave office. This could actually lead to extortion and blackmail of a President. The other side would say, If you dont do something, just the way we want it, we are going to go after you when you leave office, or perhaps even sooner. A President has to be free to determine what is right for our Country, with no undue pressure!

Without Immunity, the Presidency, as we know it, will no longer exist. Many actions for the benefit of our Country will not be taken. This is in no way what the Founders had in mind. Legal Experts and Scholars have stated that the President must have Full Presidential Immunity. A President must be free to make proper decisions. His mind must be clear, and he must not be guided by fear of retribution!

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Tyranthraxus
04/22/24 5:52:34 PM
#196:


darkace77450 posted...
Trump had himself quite the meltdown on not-Twitter two hours ago. I'm not going to link to the site, but here is a copy and paste job from eight consecutive posts.

I'm curious here but aside from the RICO and January 6 DC cases, which of his trials have anything to do with things he did as president?

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darkace77450
04/22/24 5:54:20 PM
#197:


Tyranthraxus posted...
I'm curious here but aside from the RICO and January 6 DC cases, which of his trials have anything to do with things he did as president?

None, but that's not going to stop him from claiming immunity for things he did before and after his presidency.
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Heineken14
04/22/24 5:57:59 PM
#198:


ClayGuida posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/a50e577d.jpg

These are all threats. Just like frivolous impeachments. Hopefully the people who need to hear this are listening.

Soooooo, a president can steal an election then, right?

Fucking stupid asshole. I hate this dumb **** so fucking much.

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King_Rial
04/22/24 6:00:14 PM
#199:


darkace77450 posted...
eight consecutive posts


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UltimateWing
04/22/24 6:08:54 PM
#200:


Even though Trump will probably be fined again on the contempt charge hearing tomorrow, I do expect the judge to scold him harshly and Trump will have to listen to every word of it. He deserves to be locked up, but if hes fuming about being told off, its something.

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