Board 8 > Toy Story Mafia Topic 1: A Poisoned Waterhole

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Kirby321
04/14/24 2:03:54 PM
#251:


ItzKnightz posted...
Yes, Among Us and the characters are the colors. IGCD and i were working on balancing it right before the game started.

... That is mad convenient that the only person who could corroborate this claim is also dead.

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changmas
04/14/24 2:04:03 PM
#252:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
This just feels patiently false. We out town power and have to pivot ALL the damn time. It's why the b8 special typically involves one or multiple brand new lynches forming in the final few minutes of the day, because claims come out and everyone pivots in unison forcing more and more claims.

I'd love to see a game where only 1 person claims day 1 and everyone just stays the course on their lynch and no crazy pivots occur.

thats because you let people like lopen decide lynches

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Corrik7
04/14/24 2:06:32 PM
#254:


ItzKnightz posted...
I'm not a Cop, I'm a Clother
Thank you

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Kirby321
04/14/24 2:07:44 PM
#255:


I've never heard of a Clother. Seems like a unique role to this game, and that might be hard to fake if Knightz is new, which is given extra weight since he claimed it instantly in his first post. Hmm...

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Forceful_Dragon
04/14/24 2:08:29 PM
#256:


UltimaterializerX posted...
I respect FD as a player too much to suddenly think hed make a cowards play as town. No lynch stinks and Corrik is right.



I don't even think it's the first time I've advocated for NL in a spot where town is ahead day 1

Okay, gone for real this time

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ItzKnightz
04/14/24 2:08:42 PM
#257:


Kirby321 posted...
I've never heard of a Clother. Seems like a unique role to this game, and that might be hard to fake if Knightz is new, which is given extra weight since he claimed it instantly in his first post. Hmm...
I am Groovy Clothing Vendor if that makes it better. I can give players gifts once every night phase.

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htaeD
04/14/24 2:09:25 PM
#258:


Corrik7 posted...
Be less annoying. You already claimed cop unironically and scum already knows. You are gonna be roleblocked tonight and get no info so maybe try and find scum to play the game you signed up for.

Corrik why even say this?

I mean to be honest I totally bought his explanation that he was already preparing a mafia game of his own.

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Kirby321
04/14/24 2:10:10 PM
#259:


You confuse me, Knightz. But your claim seems earnest enough to be town.

For the sake of denying scum info, I'd recommend not sharing anything about what your gifts do even if someone asks.

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Corrik7
04/14/24 2:10:10 PM
#260:


htaeD posted...
Corrik why even say this?

I mean to be honest I totally bought his explanation that he was already preparing a mafia game of his own.
So he would claim

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ItzKnightz
04/14/24 2:11:33 PM
#261:


Kirby321 posted...
You confuse me, Knightz. But your claim seems earnest enough to be town.

For the sake of denying scum info, I'd recommend not sharing anything about what your gifts do even if someone asks.
I even don't know what they do

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changmas
04/14/24 2:11:59 PM
#262:


lmao this is like almost a 1 for 1 replica of tidus getting Anna in fire emblem awakening mafia

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ItzKnightz
04/14/24 2:13:28 PM
#263:


changmas posted...
lmao this is like almost a 1 for 1 replica of tidus getting Anna in fire emblem awakening mafia
I actually have Fire Emblem Awakening

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PunishedBen
04/14/24 2:19:37 PM
#264:


Kirby321 posted...
FD is talking sense.

I feel like players here way overestimate scum night actions. They're only scary when scum has the necessary info to optimize usage of those actions.

Meanwhile, town powers usually excel in environments where there's limited info. Every time town has given up way more information than they should have, scum has been able to capitalize on it.

Furthermore, people keep saying D1 info is valuable and so we should lynch, but I can't recall a game in recent memory where players have actually gone back to reread D1 and found strong evidence to accurately convict scum. It's far likelier that players just don't bother ISOing or going back to reread and instead just vote based on info that's readily in their faces.

Especially as the game goes on where the people who would go back and reread are likely dead or scum.

NL is lame, but "we get lots of info out of D1" is an overrated take imo. Corrik shot scum. Let's just take our lucky victory and play it safe.
I know that I get a lot out of day 1 and I absolutely re-read it. So I'm saying I personally value the hell out of it and there's no overrating what it means to me. Can't speak for everyone else I guess.

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htaeD
04/14/24 2:19:57 PM
#265:


Corrik7 posted...
So he would claim

Well I guess I should not have expected anything besides proud honesty

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Kirby321
04/14/24 2:22:39 PM
#266:


PunishedBen posted...
I know that I get a lot out of day 1 and I absolutely re-read it. So I'm saying I personally value the hell out of it and there's no overrating what it means to me. Can't speak for everyone else I guess.

You are very much the exception, Ben. If you're town and alive near the end of the game, scum is cooked unless people just decide not to listen to you.

I still vividly remember that time you had the game literally solved and town only lost because two players decided to lose their heads and go off the deep end. Those players are the ones I'm worried about staying alive in the end game and not using any D1 info to their advantage.

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Lopen
04/14/24 2:22:50 PM
#267:


Day 1 is a great day for info usually. No Lynch is bad play

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ItzKnightz
04/14/24 2:23:02 PM
#268:


Let's just play it safe Corrik. Instead of testing our luck

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PunishedBen
04/14/24 2:25:15 PM
#269:


ItzKnightz posted...
I am Groovy Clothing Vendor if that makes it better. I can give players gifts once every night phase.
I would love one of your gifts, provided they do have positive effects. So that you can keep them out of Mafia's hands at the very least. :D

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ItzKnightz
04/14/24 2:25:42 PM
#270:


PunishedBen posted...
I would love one of your gifts, provided they do have positive effects. So that you can keep them out of Mafia's hands at the very least. :D
; )

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Corrik7
04/14/24 2:31:05 PM
#271:


ItzKnightz posted...
Let's just play it safe Corrik. Instead of testing our luck
No

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ItzKnightz
04/14/24 2:32:16 PM
#272:


Corrik7 posted...
No
Why not? Are you just scum trying to get us to kill our own townspeople? Because you sure sound like it.

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htaeD
04/14/24 2:34:51 PM
#273:


Not to get distracted, I would also like for Lea to say a few sentences more than none at all.

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ItzKnightz
04/14/24 2:36:28 PM
#274:


@Leafeon13N Are you active?

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ItzKnightz
04/14/24 2:44:21 PM
#275:


I don't think Lea is active, why don't we just start figuring out who's mafia and who's not.

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changmas
04/14/24 2:46:28 PM
#276:


alright, who should we start with

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ItzKnightz
04/14/24 2:47:48 PM
#277:


Chang, He's been sus from the beginning knowing that I'm town

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Obellisk
04/14/24 2:48:13 PM
#278:


ItzKnightz posted...
Chang, He's been sus from the beginning knowing that I'm town

it's not sus to pinpoint rooks as town

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Obellisk
04/14/24 2:48:54 PM
#279:


and we aren't no lynching.

don't make the claw angry

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Lopen
04/14/24 2:49:47 PM
#280:


You know who would usually get as angry as a claw at the thought of no lynch?

Enchantress (Lea)

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changmas
04/14/24 2:49:54 PM
#281:


true, its very suspicious and a lot of people agree with you.

ben said he knew what i was talking about and also knew you were town from the start. are we both scum together, or could there be a logical reason we both came to that conclusion?

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ItzKnightz
04/14/24 2:50:32 PM
#282:


Obellisk posted...
and we aren't no lynching.

don't make the claw angry
Oh I'm not lynching, We need info and what better way to get info?

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ItzKnightz
04/14/24 2:54:00 PM
#283:


Ok fine what about Ulti.

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Kirby321
04/14/24 2:54:30 PM
#284:


I'm standing firm on No Lynch. I'll contribute to discussions, but I earnestly believe that No Lynch is the safest way to not throw the lead that Corrik has given us now.

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changmas
04/14/24 2:57:27 PM
#285:


Its always aggravating to watch people play not to lose instead of play to win tbh

more often than not you end up opening lines to lose, actually

see: prevent defense in football

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Lopen
04/14/24 2:57:45 PM
#286:


How do you expect to have meaningful discussions without any fear of death

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htaeD
04/14/24 2:59:28 PM
#287:


By the way Leafeon13n (AKA: Red) is probably the most inactive player in the game next to Corrik.
Though if he does not say anything at all today, I will be surprised.

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ItzKnightz
04/14/24 3:00:22 PM
#288:


Lopen, Ulti, Obellisk are all possible mafia.

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Lopen
04/14/24 3:03:02 PM
#289:


I think they're all town

My Ulti divining is pending though

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red13n
04/14/24 3:11:11 PM
#290:


why are we trying to be boring and no lynch.

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Lopen
04/14/24 3:12:00 PM
#291:


UltimaterializerX posted...
I respect FD as a player too much to suddenly think hed make a cowards play as town. No lynch stinks and Corrik is right.

The big reason my Ulti divining is clouded is this

Why say this about FD and not Enchantress (Lea)

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ItzKnightz
04/14/24 3:12:20 PM
#292:


because it is too high a risk to take. You want to take down scum, what will probably happen is that you kill town.

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Lopen
04/14/24 3:13:07 PM
#293:


Can't find scum without killing a few town

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Lopen
04/14/24 3:13:26 PM
#294:


That's an egg reference

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ItzKnightz
04/14/24 3:13:46 PM
#295:


Just so you know I was talking to red who posted right before you did.

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Kirby321
04/14/24 3:14:49 PM
#296:


Lopen posted...
Can't find scum without killing a few town

What if we deferred killing town to D2

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ItzKnightz
04/14/24 3:14:51 PM
#297:


I'm going to take a break, I'll be back in 35 or so minutes.

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Lopen
04/14/24 3:19:28 PM
#298:


Kirby321 posted...
What if we deferred killing town to D2

Why not just no lynch forever

We flipped godfather we can just let the power roles win

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htaeD
04/14/24 3:27:23 PM
#299:


Knightz continues to look town btw

Lopen posted...
Why not just no lynch forever

We flipped godfather we can just let the power roles win

Christmas (mafia) only happens once a year.

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