Current Events > Trump Trials General Part 14: Dawn of the criminal trials

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Cemith
04/15/24 10:56:22 AM
#351:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/lawofruby/status/1779885924907643389

Interesting choice to leave it out. You'd think if the prosection wanted to prove the shoddy morality of the defendant they'd love having his voice talk about the defending of SA but I guess that's not happening here?

Am I missing something?

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CableZL
04/15/24 10:59:00 AM
#352:


Cemith posted...
Interesting choice to leave it out. You'd think if the prosection wanted to prove the shoddy morality of the defendant they'd love having his voice talk about the defending of SA but I guess that's not happening here?

Am I missing something?

I don't think I'm knowledgeable enough to understand the decision either way

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CableZL
04/15/24 10:59:33 AM
#353:


Man... history books about these days are gonna be nuts.

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littlebro07
04/15/24 11:07:44 AM
#354:


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lilORANG
04/15/24 11:07:45 AM
#355:


Cemith posted...
Interesting choice to leave it out. You'd think if the prosection wanted to prove the shoddy morality of the defendant they'd love having his voice talk about the defending of SA but I guess that's not happening here?

Am I missing something?
The judge kept it out. Not the prosecutor. Probably bc it's cumulative, as in the Access Hollywood tape says the exact same thing

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CableZL
04/15/24 11:07:47 AM
#356:


https://twitter.com/innercitypress/status/1779889075610099738

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Mearcstapa
04/15/24 11:08:41 AM
#357:


CableZL posted...
Well, I've officially shorted 3 shares of DJT at $27.36. Shorting makes me nervous, but this seems to be a pretty safe thing? We'll see.

I mean, we can all be pretty sure that shit is going to zero over the long term, but in the short term it's still going to be extremely volatile in either direction. Also remember that you're paying interest for as long as your short position is open, so that eats into your potential profits over time.

Of course, at just 3 shares, it's just a fun little gamble with low stakes.

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Cemith
04/15/24 11:08:54 AM
#358:


https://twitter.com/TylerMcBrien/status/1779888660566978967

I like this steinglass person.

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CableZL
04/15/24 11:10:07 AM
#359:


I guess we're about to find out... How is the judge gonna handle gag order violations?

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Cemith
04/15/24 11:10:57 AM
#360:


CableZL posted...
I guess we're about to find out... How is the judge gonna handle gag order violations?

Hopes are low... but not zero.

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Block_that_Kick
04/15/24 11:13:42 AM
#361:


Thats not how it works, Clay. And anyone who tries will be about as successful as your cant miss parlays.

https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/1779871756901064710

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lilORANG
04/15/24 11:14:49 AM
#362:


Block_that_Kick posted...
Thats not how it works, Clay. And anyone who tries will be about as successful as your cant miss parlays.

https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/1779871756901064710
This tweet right here should be a crime >_>

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GTA1984
04/15/24 11:15:10 AM
#363:


CableZL posted...
So Trump is gonna have to be in court tomorrow morning Itll definitely be interesting to see if the prosecution brings up the gag order violation(s). New York law prohibits cameras in the courtroom, but I wish there would be an exception made for this an all of Trumps trials.

While I do agree that his trials should be televised, maybe it is for the best that they aren't. It would be a double edged sword if they were. On one side the American people would get to see it but on the other side Trump would use it to his advantage. He would have more incentive to show out and use the whole thing as a political campaign.

By not being on TV it really helps keep the trial to be about whether or not Donald Trump committed a crime.

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ThePieReborn
04/15/24 11:15:48 AM
#364:


lilORANG posted...
The judge kept it out. Not the prosecutor. Probably bc it's cumulative, as in the Access Hollywood tape says the exact same thing
Cumulative, propensity evidence, more prejudicial than probative all come to mind.

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Cemith
04/15/24 11:17:01 AM
#365:


GTA1984 posted...
While I do agree that his trials should be televised, maybe it is for the best that they aren't. It would be a double edged sword if they were. On one side the American people would get to see it but on the other side Trump would use it to his advantage. He would have more incentive to show out and use the whole thing as a political campaign.

By not being on TV it really helps keep the trial to be about whether or not Donald Trump committed a crime.

Yeah I will say I was close to rabid when I learned they wouldn't televise his court cases, because Trump would otherwise lie and say it was a slam dunk.

But the more time goes on, and we have media into the room anyway doing the play by play, I can acknowledge, even bitterly, that it's probably the right call.

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CableZL
04/15/24 11:18:37 AM
#366:


GTA1984 posted...
While I do agree that his trials should be televised, maybe it is for the best that they aren't. It would be a double edged sword if they were. On one side the American people would get to see it but on the other side Trump would use it to his advantage. He would have more incentive to show out and use the whole thing as a political campaign.

By not being on TV it really helps keep the trial to be about whether or not Donald Trump committed a crime.

Cemith posted...
Yeah I will say I was close to rabid when I learned they wouldn't televise his court cases, because Trump would otherwise lie and say it was a slam dunk.

But the more time goes on, and we have media into the room anyway doing the play by play, I can acknowledge, even bitterly, that it's probably the right call.

Definitely fair and correct thinking in these posts. I just want the visuals preserved on the internet forever. We'll always have court records, I guess... oh well.

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lilORANG
04/15/24 11:19:19 AM
#367:


GTA1984 posted...
While I do agree that his trials should be televised, maybe it is for the best that they aren't. It would be a double edged sword if they were. On one side the American people would get to see it but on the other side Trump would use it to his advantage. He would have more incentive to show out and use the whole thing as a political campaign.

By not being on TV it really helps keep the trial to be about whether or not Donald Trump committed a crime.
People get heated when referees make unfavorable calls in sports. Imagine the claims that the system is rigged if every objection and evidentiary ruling were televised, and every armchair lawyer got to add their analysis.

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Cory898
04/15/24 11:20:17 AM
#368:


Block_that_Kick posted...
Thats not how it works, Clay. And anyone who tries will be about as successful as your cant miss parlays.

https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/1779871756901064710
Enlighten me. It would be a relief to know what measures are in place to prevent this nightmare scenario.

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Cemith
04/15/24 11:21:24 AM
#369:


CableZL posted...
Definitely fair and correct thinking in these posts. I just want the visuals preserved on the internet forever. We'll always have court records, I guess... oh well.

Don't forget the court sketches

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Cemith
04/15/24 11:24:02 AM
#370:


https://twitter.com/TylerMcBrien/status/1779892151691718958

Guess I'll do chores now

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lilORANG
04/15/24 11:24:16 AM
#371:


Cory898 posted...
Enlighten me. It would be a relief to know what measures are in place to prevent this nightmare scenario.
Voting "not guilty" despite there being overwhelming evidence is called jury nullification. It is allowed, in the sense that a jury's verdict is hardly ever questioned (except in extreme circumstances like where a juror may have been bribed or threatened). The only "safeguard" against it is that the lawyers in court are not allowed to tell them that they can nullify if they want, and there are likely instructions read by the judge that basically say "if the evidence proves he's guilty, you must find him guilty."


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GTA1984
04/15/24 11:25:13 AM
#372:


Just remember that Trump has 4 trials and it is only 3 that won't be on television. We will get to see a Trump trial on television when it comes time for the Georgia trial.

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mystic_belmont
04/15/24 11:28:11 AM
#373:


Cory898 posted...
Enlighten me. It would be a relief to know what measures are in place to prevent this nightmare scenario.

I believe there are alternate jurors that can be used in place.

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ReiRei89
04/15/24 11:29:50 AM
#374:


Jury selection also works to root out compromised jurors and sycophants. The straight up dumb ones won't be able to help but broadcast their support of the fat fuck and they won't be picked.

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mystic_belmont
04/15/24 11:31:47 AM
#375:


ReiRei89 posted...
Jury selection also works to root out compromised jurors and sycophants. The straight up dumb ones won't be able to help but broadcast their support of the fat fuck and they won't be picked.

And the ones that do make it through will have an outburst and be removed.

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Block_that_Kick
04/15/24 11:32:24 AM
#376:


ReiRei89 posted...
Jury selection also works to root out compromised jurors and sycophants. The straight up dumb ones won't be able to help but broadcast their support of the fat fuck and they won't be picked.

And the ones who show support or contempt for Trump on social media are already weeded out.

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GTA1984
04/15/24 11:34:37 AM
#377:


Here is a video on how jury selection will work for the Manhattan case.

https://youtu.be/rrMXYlXZF-w?si=dOdhWvUbU1MiJahv

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ReiRei89
04/15/24 11:34:50 AM
#378:


Also it's illegal for Trump supporters to get on a jury with the goal to protect the fat fuck. People like that are referred to as stealth jurors and the legal system does look out for them and if they're found they can be charged with contempt of court and obstruction of justice.

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TimeForAction
04/15/24 11:38:14 AM
#379:


Manaforts trial had someone on the jury who went against all the other jurors for seemingly no reason, and none given. At least on some counts
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CableZL
04/15/24 11:39:53 AM
#380:


https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1779897079742992467

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Gritty
04/15/24 11:42:08 AM
#381:


Block_that_Kick posted...
Thats not how it works, Clay. And anyone who tries will be about as successful as your cant miss parlays.

https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/1779871756901064710

he admits his principles are crime rape harassment and fraud, just like every trump slurper.

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Mearcstapa
04/15/24 11:56:50 AM
#382:


Gritty posted...
history will excoriate these people

As long as we don't allow them to be the ones that write it.

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Tyranthraxus
04/15/24 11:59:24 AM
#383:


ScazarMeltex posted...
Maybe it wasn't you, though I swore it was. My brain is also mush between chemo brain and COVID brain. I had a 20 dollar bet with someone that Trump never ever gets convicted because of chuds on the juries.

It was me. I have the screenshots. I can't get them right this second but the bet was me saying Trump would be found guilty, and you saying there would be a hung jury or other bureaucratic nonsense that would result in the cases being thrown out.

At the time, the topic was the documents case in Florida but technically we never specified that it had to be that case.

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CableZL
04/15/24 12:22:28 PM
#384:


https://twitter.com/KatiePhang/status/1779907946261938549

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ClayGuida
04/15/24 12:24:21 PM
#385:


Fox sports employed that clown

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CableZL
04/15/24 12:24:52 PM
#386:


https://twitter.com/lawofruby/status/1779908198431948891

Disappointment is a way of life.

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rynobot
04/15/24 12:25:04 PM
#387:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/KatiePhang/status/1779907946261938549

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/85754afb.jpg
I do not think Trump truly "understands" any of this.

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Gritty
04/15/24 12:25:11 PM
#388:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/KatiePhang/status/1779907946261938549

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Please dont show up
please dont show up

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CableZL
04/15/24 12:27:35 PM
#389:


https://twitter.com/KatiePhang/status/1779909312636182727

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DoesntMatter
04/15/24 12:27:39 PM
#390:


rynobot posted...
I do not think Trump truly "understands" any of this.
he understands that he thinks those are things that can happen to normies but that they won't apply to him

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Tyranthraxus
04/15/24 12:28:55 PM
#391:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/KatiePhang/status/1779909312636182727

Kinda wish he would rule while hungry. He is gonna be in a better mood after eating.

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DrizztLink
04/15/24 12:38:16 PM
#392:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Kinda wish he would rule while hungry. He is gonna be in a better mood after eating.
If he waits until after the break he can deal with the gag order violations we'll get from Trump during the break, too.

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TomClark
04/15/24 12:43:35 PM
#393:


DrizztLink posted...
If he waits until after the break he can deal with the gag order violations we'll get from Trump during the break, too.

Big Brain Thinking

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Board_hunter567
04/15/24 12:44:13 PM
#394:


"This time will be different!"
Folks, don't do this to yourselves.

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Tyranthraxus
04/15/24 12:45:54 PM
#395:


Board_hunter567 posted...
"This time will be different!"
Folks, don't do this to yourselves.

This time is already different because it's a criminal trial. This has already never happened before. Not just for presidents, but for Trump as well.

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04/15/24 12:46:40 PM
#396:


DrizztLink posted...
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Heineken14
04/15/24 12:47:08 PM
#397:


ReiRei89 posted...
Also it's illegal for Trump supporters to get on a jury with the goal to protect the fat fuck. People like that are referred to as stealth jurors and the legal system does look out for them and if they're found they can be charged with contempt of court and obstruction of justice.

Well, if there's one thing we know for sure, is that there aren't a whole fuck ton of people willing to go to jail for this shit sack.

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Tyranthraxus
04/15/24 12:48:21 PM
#398:


Michael Cohen is one of the witnesses right? That dude is going to be out for blood.

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CableZL
04/15/24 12:55:57 PM
#399:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Michael Cohen is one of the witnesses right? That dude is going to be out for blood.

Yeah. He's somewhat of a problematic witness, though. He has perjury issues in previous trials that he has admitted to in various court records and congressional records. The prosecution will pretty much have to corroborate anything he says with documents and and possibly other witness testimony, I think. I'm sure the prosecution is accounting for that, though.

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Shadow_Don
04/15/24 12:56:01 PM
#400:


Block_that_Kick posted...
Thats not how it works, Clay. And anyone who tries will be about as successful as your cant miss parlays.

https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/1779871756901064710

That dude is a fucking lawyer? This tweet alone is worthy of a bar complaint no?

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