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Rexdragon125 04/04/24 12:35:42 PM #100: |
LonelyStoner posted... People turning a blind eye to Bidens criticisms just because Trump would be an even worse president (again) are almost as bad as Trumps supporters.No one's turning a blind eye to Biden's criticisms, but the critics sure are turning a blind eye to the alternative. I don't even know what they're arguing for anymore, unless they're just trolls trying to discourage potential Biden voters ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LonelyStoner 04/04/24 12:39:47 PM #101: |
Rexdragon125 posted...
No one's turning a blind eye to Biden's criticisms, but the critics sure are turning a blind eye to the alternative. I don't even know what they're arguing for anymore, unless they're just trolls trying to discourage potential Biden votersIt sure seems like people are turning a blind eye. Every time someone criticizes Biden here its met with But Trump is worse. Like it isnt well known. Would Trump be a worse president? Yes. Is Biden a bad president? Also yes. We shouldnt have to choose the lesser of two evils. --- He's all alone through the day and night. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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1337toothbrush 04/04/24 12:40:47 PM #102: |
Rexdragon125 posted...
So you don't actually give a shit about genocideYes I do, which is why I want biden to stop supporting it. Meanwhile you're fine with genocide because "the other guy". ScazarMeltex posted... There is no voting strategy for US voters that stops the Israeli genocide of the Palestinian. I wish there was, but there isn't.I'm going to be voting democrat, just like I did in 2016 (and all other times), but if democrats and their diehard supporters actually want democrats to win with the general population, they're going to have to make changes. The fact that democrats are happy to use the threat of republicans as a cudgel to get votes just goes to show how interested they are in actually improving things. The fact is that we're going to be voting for "not the other guy" for the rest of our lives, while things continue to deteriorate because under our system it's impossible for republicans to not win at least every once in a while. Holding the status quo does nothing to counteract that. --- https://imgur.com/a/FU9H8 - https://i.imgur.com/ZkQRDsR.png - https://i.imgur.com/2x2gtgP.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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C_Pain 04/04/24 12:41:56 PM #103: |
Biden? Trump? Da fuck y'all talking about? Come on man, let's go play tag outside.
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SauI_Goodman 04/04/24 12:45:42 PM #104: |
Accolon posted...
I'm sick of giving Biden a free pass because the only other option is a literal fascist.Blame America. We're in this position because the people are the ones voting these clowns through the primaries. Nobody to blame but yourselves. Me not included since I want no part of these dbags. --- Italian, French, German. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cjsdowg 04/04/24 12:47:00 PM #105: |
For the Biden no matter what ppl is there a red line dems can cross. Or will always be you happily support them forever because of republicans
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DemonicChaosXX 04/04/24 1:03:13 PM #106: |
1337toothbrush posted...
I guess let the genocide continue? Is that the point of this post?I guess Hail Trump, Fuck America? Is that the point of this post? --- It's a point and click adventure where the only action is "use gun" on "man". ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ScazarMeltex 04/04/24 1:04:14 PM #107: |
1337toothbrush posted...
Yes I do, which is why I want biden to stop supporting it. Meanwhile you're fine with genocide because "the other guy".Oh I get it. I'm a hard leftist. If it were up to me I'd tear the country down to it's foundation and rebuild it as a Parliamentary Democracy. The system we have was always going to be doomed to a binary choice between bad and awful. A Parliamentary system would solve a ton of that. Not all of it it, but a good chunk would be solved by it's multiparty nature and forced coalition governments. --- Furthermore, The GOP is a Fascist Organization and must be destroyed ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cemith 04/04/24 1:04:36 PM #108: |
LonelyStoner posted...
It sure seems like people are turning a blind eye. No, it doesn't. I have never, EVER seen a single person on this forum say 'Wow I love Biden, his handling of Israel really puts a lot faith in my position of his'. It is an argument you are creating because people like you Toothbrush want to feel some moral high ground about Gaza when, the reality is with the electoral college, we are bound to two candidates who are both awful in Israel. The massive fucking difference is that paying lip service to Trump like cjsdowg was doing earlier is absurdly idiotic considering the alternative is that non white non religious people will also be persecuted under Trump. People somehow just either do not understand that, or don't care. --- https://i.ibb.co/2vRbyC0/Rosa-6.png "Friends don't let friends watch The Big Bang Theory" - mogar002 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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uwnim 04/04/24 1:09:06 PM #109: |
cjsdowg posted...
For the Biden no matter what ppl is there a red line dems can cross. Or will always be you happily support them forever because of republicansSure. Like if Biden was also running on overthrowing democracy and becoming a dictator, Id stop supporting him and probably try to figure out how to leave cause either way things are going to be really bad. LonelyStoner posted... We shouldnt have to choose the lesser of two evils.we shouldnt have to, but we do have to. Like ideally youd have decent candidates and youd be trying to figure out who you like best. Instead we live in a place where we have two candidates and must try to figure out which is less bad. --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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refmon 04/04/24 1:15:09 PM #110: |
Imagine pressuring the democratic party enough to get actual change...
Nah, just vote for Genocide Joe instead. --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cemith 04/04/24 1:16:05 PM #111: |
refmon posted...
Imagine pressuring the democratic party enough to get actual change... Again. This is a fake argument to feel morally superior to everyone else that lives in the two party binary reality. We want actual change which is the exact reason we can't vote in Trump. --- https://i.ibb.co/2vRbyC0/Rosa-6.png "Friends don't let friends watch The Big Bang Theory" - mogar002 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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1337toothbrush 04/04/24 1:23:40 PM #112: |
Cemith posted...
Again. This is a fake argument to feel morally superior to everyone else that lives in the two party binary reality.biden has the power to carry out actual change in this situation right now and he won't. If you want actual change, you won't get it with biden. Yes, go ahead and vote for the lesser of two evils, but don't delude yourself into thinking we're going to get actual change in the positive direction. --- https://imgur.com/a/FU9H8 - https://i.imgur.com/ZkQRDsR.png - https://i.imgur.com/2x2gtgP.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cemith 04/04/24 1:28:13 PM #113: |
1337toothbrush posted...
biden has the power to carry out actual change in this situation right now and he won't. If you want actual change, you won't get it with biden. Yes, go ahead and vote for the lesser of two evils, but don't delude yourself into thinking we're going to get actual change in the positive direction. If you asked me which party was more likely to change, the party that is trying to strip the rights of minorities, instituted a muslim ban, is currently a willful piggybank for the legal fees of their dear leader, who claims he'll be a dictator for a day; OR Democrats, who are not hard enough on Israel but have otherwise made decent headway the last three odd years- The answer is uhhhhh pretty fucking obvious. Gaza should not be the sole reason you do or do not vote for a candidate. You know this, too. You said you'll vote Dem this year so you know what's at stake. --- https://i.ibb.co/2vRbyC0/Rosa-6.png "Friends don't let friends watch The Big Bang Theory" - mogar002 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tanthalas 04/04/24 1:32:37 PM #114: |
1337toothbrush posted...
biden has the power to carry out actual change in this situation right now and he won't. If you want actual change, you won't get it with biden. Yes, go ahead and vote for the lesser of two evils, but don't delude yourself into thinking we're going to get actual change in the positive direction.Biden isnt even the lesser of two evils. Thats just the same thing, both sides rhetoric you guys like to use. Biden has definitely been a good president. Youre going to have to come up with way better than maintaining decades-long policy towards Israel and the Middle-East to prove that hes actually evil. --- Sir Markham pointed out, drinking another brandy. "A chap who can point at you and say 'die' has the distinct advantage". ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 04/04/24 1:36:14 PM #115: |
Cemith posted...
It's always "why are the Democrats so bad" and never-The GOP is unsalvageable so obviously people don't want to spend effort on lost causes. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hornezz 04/04/24 1:38:55 PM #116: |
Tanthalas posted...
Youre going to have to come up with way better than maintaining decades-long policy towards Israel and the Middle-East to prove that hes actually evil.Circumstances are different compared to the last few decades though: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/e77d0dff.jpg This is a very good reason for a change in policy. --- In dentibus anticis frustum magnum spinaciae habes. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ClayGuida 04/04/24 1:50:56 PM #117: |
Hornezz posted...
Circumstances are different compared to the last few decades though:Will trump change that policy? --- lolAmerica ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hornezz 04/04/24 2:00:03 PM #118: |
ClayGuida posted...
Will trump change that policy?He will not. He'd make it worse. Will Biden's unwillingness to make a change help win over voters and prevent Trump from doing that? --- In dentibus anticis frustum magnum spinaciae habes. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cjsdowg 04/04/24 2:08:43 PM #119: |
Tanthalas posted...
Biden isnt even the lesser of two evils. Thats just the same thing, both sides rhetoric you guys like to use. Supporting a genocide and attacking people who speak out is pretty damn evil. --- If you say I am wrong, then prove that you are right. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Will_VIIII 04/04/24 2:18:03 PM #121: |
cjsdowg posted...
Supporting a genocide and attacking people who speak out is pretty damn evil.Who are you voting for? --- Advice from a dryer: Open the door to amazement. Don't shrink from your true calling. Accept life's wrinkles. Avoid overload. Reach into mystery! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cjsdowg 04/04/24 2:28:52 PM #122: |
Will_VIIII posted...
Who are you voting for? Cornel West --- If you say I am wrong, then prove that you are right. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tanthalas 04/04/24 2:33:04 PM #123: |
Hornezz posted...
Circumstances are different compared to the last few decades though:So, the only argument you have to offer is "maintaining decades of US policy towards Israel". cjsdowg posted... Supporting a genocide and attacking people who speak out is pretty damn evil.Except he doesn't support a genocide and you're going to have to provide examples of Biden "attacking" people who speak out. --- Sir Markham pointed out, drinking another brandy. "A chap who can point at you and say 'die' has the distinct advantage". ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Heineken14 04/04/24 2:33:58 PM #124: |
cjsdowg posted...
Cornel West Explain how that will help people in America as well as people in Palestine. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cjsdowg 04/04/24 2:38:05 PM #125: |
Tanthalas posted...
Except he doesn't support a genocide and you're going to have to provide examples of Biden "attacking" people who speak out. Any time John Kirby opens his mouth. --- If you say I am wrong, then prove that you are right. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hornezz 04/04/24 2:44:12 PM #126: |
Tanthalas posted...
So, the only argument you have to offer is "maintaining decades of US policy towards Israel".US policy on Israel wasn't aiding in killing people by the tens of thousands in a few months time. It is now. Therefore maintaining policy of sending billions worth of bombs, knowing that they're being used for large scale atrocities, isn't a good thing. Biden bypassed congress to send more weapons, even after the ICJ had labeled the risk of genocide plausible. --- In dentibus anticis frustum magnum spinaciae habes. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 04/04/24 2:46:36 PM #127: |
The whole "we're actually in a total status quo moment right now and you bleeding hearts are screaming about nothing out of the ordinary" is exhausting
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radical_rhino 04/04/24 2:46:54 PM #128: |
Hornezz posted... Circumstances are different compared to the last few decades though:LMAO check the small print, buddy --- .____ [____]===0 . . . . Ye olde beating stick. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hornezz 04/04/24 2:48:16 PM #129: |
radical_rhino posted...
LMAO check the small print, buddyWhat point are you making exactly? --- In dentibus anticis frustum magnum spinaciae habes. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EmbraceOfDeath 04/04/24 3:04:43 PM #130: |
Tanthalas posted...
But its exactly like voting for Trump. You will never have the perfect candidate, so the adult in you needs to choose between the better option.It's literally not like voting for Trump. Are people really this bad at math? A vote for someone other than Biden or Trump has no effect on Biden or Trump votes, that's kind of the point. --- No more shall man have wings to bear him to paradise. Henceforth, he shall walk. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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uwnim 04/04/24 3:06:43 PM #131: |
Hornezz posted...
What point are you making exactly?Hamas is providing improbable casualty figures. While we know a bunch of people are being killed who shouldnt be, the ratio of men and women+children is likely a lot closer than they are claiming. --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trumble 04/04/24 3:08:03 PM #132: |
Even Israel accept Hamas's casualty figures as likely to be accurate. Anyone claiming they're not is engaging in wilful disinformation.
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Tyranthraxus 04/04/24 3:11:38 PM #133: |
EmbraceOfDeath posted...
It's literally not like voting for Trump. Are people really this bad at math? A vote for someone other than Biden or Trump has no effect on Biden or Trump votes, that's kind of the point.It has an effect on who wins which is the only thing that matters. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Foppe 04/04/24 3:11:53 PM #134: |
It has been proved time after time that the Gaza Health Ministry numbers are legit, heck, even Israel use those numbers instead of counting themself.
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Doe 04/04/24 3:13:11 PM #135: |
uwnim posted...
Hamas is providing improbable casualty figures. While we know a bunch of people are being killed who shouldnt be, the ratio of men and women+children is likely a lot closer than they are claiming.https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3w4w7/israeli-intelligence-health-ministry-death-toll Senior Israel officials are using the Gaza Health Ministry's death numbers internally, months after both Israel and the U.S. claimed those figures should not be trusted. --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hornezz 04/04/24 3:13:25 PM #136: |
How easy the convo flips from 'we just need to stop Trump from winning' to denial of casualty figures.
This is the source of the image I posted: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68387864 The BBC article does a good job analyzing the reported numbers coming from Gaza, and argues they might even be understated. Reuters came to the same conclusion: numbers are credible but perhaps underestimated: https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/how-many-palestinians-have-died-gaza-war-how-will-counting-continue-2023-12-06/ IDF officials have previously stated that Hamas numbers are fairly accurate: https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/idf-officials-15000-likely-killed-in-gaza-since-start-of-war-5000-of-them-are-hamas/ Hell, IDF internally uses the Health Ministry's number as they deem them reliable (link in Hebrew): https://tinyurl.com/5dwrxm57 --- In dentibus anticis frustum magnum spinaciae habes. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tanthalas 04/04/24 3:17:38 PM #137: |
cjsdowg posted...
Any time John Kirby opens his mouth.So his "attacks" are just having different opinions. Call me when he starts calling for some actual violence against people who disagree. Hornezz posted... US policy on Israel wasn't aiding in killing people by the tens of thousands in a few months time. It is now.US policy on Israel has been to help defend it for years now. Doe posted... The whole "we're actually in a total status quo moment right now and you bleeding hearts are screaming about nothing out of the ordinary" is exhaustingPeople ignoring reality is also pretty exhausting. The fact is that Israel was the victim of a brutal terrorist attack. Do I agree with what Israel is doing? No. Hell, I also think that kicking out the people living in Israel to establish a Jewish state was also a pretty damn obvious mistake. If countries wanted to give Jewish people a country of their own after WW2, they should have given them a piece of Germany or a piece of their own territories. But this doesn't change that the US has supported Israel for decades and now you guys are acting outraged because Biden hasn't cut support to Israel in the middle of a war. --- Sir Markham pointed out, drinking another brandy. "A chap who can point at you and say 'die' has the distinct advantage". ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BignutzisBack 04/04/24 3:17:45 PM #138: |
Accolon posted...
I'm sick of giving Biden a free pass because the only other option is a literal fascist. --- http://i.imgur.com/plA0Vg9.gif https://media.giphy.com/media/dgK22exekwOLm/giphy.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hornezz 04/04/24 3:28:17 PM #139: |
Tanthalas posted...
US policy on Israel has been to help defend it for years now.This is never a good argument. It's circular reasoning to defend the status quo just for the sake of it: "things have been like this, so they should stay like this". Either way, circumstances have changed. Israel/Palestine has always been ripe with human right violations, but things haven't been nearly this deadly or destructive before. Sticking to the same strategy no matter what is not defensible, not when the US has this much involvement in this conflict. --- In dentibus anticis frustum magnum spinaciae habes. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cjsdowg 04/04/24 3:32:35 PM #140: |
Tanthalas posted...
So his "attacks" are just having different opinions. Call me when he starts calling for some actual violence against people who disagree. So people who say the Holocaust didn't happen just have different opinion to using this logic. --- If you say I am wrong, then prove that you are right. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ScazarMeltex 04/04/24 3:34:13 PM #141: |
uwnim posted...
Hamas is providing improbable casualty figures. While we know a bunch of people are being killed who shouldnt be, the ratio of men and women+children is likely a lot closer than they are claiming.No. Just fucking stop. Like fuck right off into the sun with this shit. --- Furthermore, The GOP is a Fascist Organization and must be destroyed ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 04/04/24 3:36:36 PM #142: |
Tanthalas posted...
But this doesn't change that the US has supported Israel for decades and now you guys are acting outraged because Biden hasn't cut support to Israel in the middle of a war.When was the last time in the last decades that Israel killed 1 in 66 of a population? When was the last time a single 'war' killed more humanitarian aid workers than all other combined conflict for any individual year in the 21st century? https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/15022926.jpg This idea that the fact the US has been an ally of Israel in history translates to everyone implicitly being okay with if Israel had done this hypothetically in the past is ludicrous. And well, it's not even historical! When Israel launched brutal attacks in Lebanon, Reagan called it a holocaust and withheld several types of aid at different times. The only way you can legitimize Israel's actions and the US's support and covering for those actions is by reducing or removing nearly all facts of the matter. It's just a 'war', so Israel's actions are in whole self defense, and they haven't even killed scores of women and children because Gaza made up their body count even though Israel and US intelligence uses Gaza's body count as the most accurate figure. --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cjsdowg 04/04/24 3:39:03 PM #143: |
Heineken14 posted...
Explain how that will help people in America as well as people in Palestine. I won't be voting for someone who supporter their genocide. --- If you say I am wrong, then prove that you are right. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PowerMan5000000 04/04/24 3:40:09 PM #144: |
As the POTUS, Im sure he is privy to a lot more than that.
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Cemith 04/04/24 3:42:05 PM #145: |
EmbraceOfDeath posted...
It's literally not like voting for Trump. Are people really this bad at math? A vote for someone other than Biden or Trump has no effect on Biden or Trump votes, that's kind of the point. I am so sick of explaining this, but I will do it again. - Both are Biden voters - Both are Trump voters. - Decides to abstain for whatever reason they choose to. - Understands that LGBT being persecuted and women losing rights to their bodies is bad, so still votes Biden. - Votes in Trump anyway - Votes in Trump anyway. 2 for Trump. 1 for Biden. The cultists aren't going away, which is why we need to suck it up and vote Blue. And if you say "BuT HoW aBoUt NeXt TiMe iN 2028? dO I jUsT VoTe BlUe EvErYtImE?" And the answer to that is; as long as the conservative party is filled to the brim with conspiracy theorists, white supremacists, and election deniers, then fucking yes. --- https://i.ibb.co/2vRbyC0/Rosa-6.png "Friends don't let friends watch The Big Bang Theory" - mogar002 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trumble 04/04/24 3:45:06 PM #146: |
^ Translation: "I'm personally okay with what blue is doing, but I know it's not okay in general, so I'm going to keep deflecting to red instead of holding blue accountable."
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Tyranthraxus 04/04/24 3:47:19 PM #147: |
Trumble posted...
^ Translation: "I'm personally okay with what blue is doing, but I know it's not okay in general, so I'm going to keep deflecting to red instead of holding blue accountable." Translation of translation: "But her emails" --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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uwnim 04/04/24 3:52:25 PM #148: |
Hornezz posted...
How easy the convo flips from 'we just need to stop Trump from winning' to denial of casualty figures.Male casualties are likely being underreported. --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trumble 04/04/24 3:53:35 PM #149: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
Translation of translation: "But her emails"You seem to be the one who feels the need to deflect to someone else, not me. --- Do, or do not. There is no Trumble. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cemith 04/04/24 3:57:45 PM #150: |
Trumble posted...
^ Translation: "I'm personally okay with what blue is doing, but I know it's not okay in general, so I'm going to keep deflecting to red instead of holding blue accountable." You're tacitly okay with the eradication of LGBT people to "stick if to the left" but sure you can pontificate about what you think I mean. It's dumb, but you can. --- https://i.ibb.co/2vRbyC0/Rosa-6.png "Friends don't let friends watch The Big Bang Theory" - mogar002 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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