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CryoForceOmelet
04/04/24 8:35:59 AM
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/displeasure-bidens-handling-hamas-israel-war-was-display-closed-door-w-rcna146244

WASHINGTON Just five minutes into a meeting with President Joe Biden, a Palestinian American doctor who has treated gravely injured patients in Gaza couldnt bear to stay, so he left.

Dr. Thaer Ahmad, who specializes in emergency medicine, recalled getting emotional when talking about the many Palestinians he cared for, describing the scale of death in the six months since the war began.

The decision to leave was a personal one, he told NBC News in a phone interview, explaining he wanted to show the White House that it was important to recognize the pain and the mourning that my community was in.

Ahmad stressed that he wanted to let the administration feel the way that we felt this past six months and kind of get up and walk away from them.

He was one of only six Muslim American community leaders who attended a small meeting on Tuesday with Biden, Vice President Kamala Harris and senior administration officials at the White House.

Many others who had been invited to attend declined, according to multiple sources familiar with the outreach, underscoring the deepening tensions between the administration and the Muslim and Arab American communities over the presidents support of Israel in its bombardment of Gaza. More than 30,000 people have died, according to health officials, since Hamas terrorist attacks in Israel on Oct. 7 and the group is still holding more than 100 hostages captive.

Another doctor who attended was taken aback when she showed Biden prints of photos of malnourished children and women in Gaza to which Biden responded that he had seen those images before. The problem, the doctor said, was that she had printed the photos from her own iPhone.

"This speaks volumes to the dismissive nature of the administration when it comes to strong-willed action towards a permanent cease-fire or, at a bare minimum, a red line on the invasion of Rafah," Dr. Nahreen H. Ahmed told NBC News.

Before leaving the meeting early, Ahmad handed a letter to the president from an 8-year-old orphan in Rafah, the southernmost city in Gaza.

There is an incredible amount of urgency around this, Ahmad said, expressing deep skepticism that Israels military campaign can be done in a sophisticated or tactical way that doesnt put innocent civilians at risk.

During the 90-minute meeting, which took place behind closed doors, Biden told attendees that he will not call for a permanent cease-fire between Israel and Hamas until all the remaining hostages are released, according to two people familiar with his comments.

Biden said, according to one of the attendees, that if Israel tries to obstruct the ability to bring aid into Gaza, the U.S. will push back and advocate for more resources to be brought into the region.

Last Thursday, the United Nations highest court ordered Israel to open more land crossings to allow food, water, fuel and other supplies into Gaza after reports that the Israeli government was blocking lifesaving supplies from reaching the devastated enclave. Israeli officials have repeatedly denied obstructing aid from entering Gaza, and instead blame the U.N. for acute shortages of lifesaving supplies in the strip particularly the north.

The president did not specify what the U.S. would do to ensure aid can be safely delivered, the attendee said.

Ahmad, the doctor who left the meeting, said he plans to go back to Gaza soon and is legitimately concerned that I may be killed in the process.

If that happened, he said, its hard to think it could happen from a 2,000-pound bomb that the U.S. gave to Israel.

That my government would have had a hand in that, I just hate that, he said. Thats kind of the thoughts that are crossing my mind.
Biden has a growing image problem in terms of the gap between his empathy for Israelis and his empathy for Palestinians.

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bluezero
04/04/24 8:57:02 AM
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CryoForceOmelet posted...
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/displeasure-bidens-handling-hamas-israel-war-was-display-closed-door-w-rcna146244

Biden has a growing image problem in terms of the gap between his empathy for Israelis and his empathy for Palestinians.
I guess let the fascist dictator in? Is that the point of this topic?

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1337toothbrush
04/04/24 9:00:29 AM
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bluezero posted...
I guess let the fascist dictator in? Is that the point of this topic?
I guess let the genocide continue? Is that the point of this post?

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bluezero
04/04/24 9:01:39 AM
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1337toothbrush posted...
I guess let the genocide continue? Is that the point of this post?
Oh, you're one of those.

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Irony
04/04/24 9:01:49 AM
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1337toothbrush posted...
I guess let the genocide continue? Is that the point of this post?
TIL Trump doesn't want to do this.

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Plumeofdusk
04/04/24 9:03:00 AM
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I mean, is it possible he's not lying? He's the president, he probably has access to everything that's on our phones to begin with.
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Unsuprised_Pika
04/04/24 9:03:44 AM
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bluezero posted...
I guess let the fascist dictator in? Is that the point of this topic?

I will vote for biden but geez calm down man nobody had even mentioned the election yet. Pressuring him to do better on Gaza is only sus if coming from a Trumper or the like.

Just saying to ignore problems won't help him get elected or help Palestine.

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Chicken
04/04/24 9:04:37 AM
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vote for that guy that changed his name to Literally Anyone Else because thats who we need. The election shouldnt be choose your flavor of dictator.

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CryoForceOmelet
04/04/24 9:05:58 AM
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bluezero posted...
I guess let the fascist dictator in? Is that the point of this topic?
This topic is reporting a current event on the board Current Events and ends with my own commentary that Biden is fumbling public perception of this issue. When you see such a headline in your own browsing, do you think the reporters at WaPo and NYT and NBC are MAGAs and that's the point of their articles?

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cjsdowg
04/04/24 9:06:19 AM
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Remember he lied about seeing decapitated babies. But Hillary says get over it

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Accolon
04/04/24 9:12:22 AM
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I'm sick of giving Biden a free pass because the only other option is a literal fascist.

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1337toothbrush
04/04/24 9:15:00 AM
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bluezero posted...
Oh, you're one of those.
What is that supposed to mean?

Irony posted...
TIL Trump doesn't want to do this.
Nobody said this. People are saying we need to put pressure on biden, but you instead shriek "WE CANNOT CRITICIZE THE DELICATE BIDEN AT ALL!!!!" and think it's fine that we have a president that full-throatedly supports genocide because the other guy does too.

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darkace77450
04/04/24 9:15:54 AM
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Biden said, according to one of the attendees, that if Israel tries to obstruct the ability to bring aid into Gaza, the U.S. will push back and advocate for more resources to be brought into the region.

"If you stop us from delivering aid to those who need it, we'll be forced to bring even more aid that you'll stop us from delivering to those who need it."

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WrkHrdPlayHrdr
04/04/24 9:19:47 AM
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Accolon posted...
I'm sick of giving Biden a free pass because the only other option is a literal fascist.

You're expected to vote for him though. Say anything that remotely hints of not feeling comfortable voting for him and people jump down your throat saying "that's voting for Trump" like it's your fault the two political party system in the US is rigged this way and you're expected to just play along.

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DarkAssassin89
04/04/24 9:19:53 AM
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Its mind boggling that we may actually have an issue where Im starting to wonder if Trump might have handled this situation better than the current administration. Thats how bad the situation and Bidens handling of it is right now.

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Serious_Cat
04/04/24 9:22:34 AM
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DarkAssassin89 posted...
Im starting to wonder if Trump might have handled this situation better than the current administration.
He most assuredly would not have.

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Ulfar
04/04/24 9:22:58 AM
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Hillary and Joe can get bent.
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McMarbles
04/04/24 9:26:39 AM
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Accolon posted...
I'm sick of giving Biden a free pass because the only other option is a literal fascist.
Can I ask when Gaza became literally the only issue?

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Tanthalas
04/04/24 9:30:46 AM
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Its possible (even likely) that Biden meant he had already seen photos like those instead that he had already seen those exact photos like the person in the article assumed. Its a stupid thing to jump on.

WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...
You're expected to vote for him though. Say anything that remotely hints of not feeling comfortable voting for him and people jump down your throat saying "that's voting for Trump" like it's your fault the two political party system in the US is rigged this way and you're expected to just play along.
But its exactly like voting for Trump. You will never have the perfect candidate, so the adult in you needs to choose between the better option.

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Plumeofdusk
04/04/24 9:33:05 AM
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Anyone with half a brain should realize that Trump would advocate a scorched earth approach. It'd just be a smoldering ruin.
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1337toothbrush
04/04/24 9:34:19 AM
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DarkAssassin89 posted...
Its mind boggling that we may actually have an issue where Im starting to wonder if Trump might have handled this situation better than the current administration. Thats how bad the situation and Bidens handling of it is right now.
That's the critical point that diehard democrats don't understand. In 2016, the key issue was *CHANGE*. People's situations weren't great (and aren't great now either) but we had two candidates, one claiming everything is fine and the other saying that he's going to "drain the swamp". Now, of course he's a liar, but people will take their chances if they don't like their current situation, even if it potentially means a worse situation. That's how dictators rise. People are sick and tired of the bad status quo and take their chances with change.

If someone doesn't want to support genocide, what options do they have under our "democracy"?

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SaikyoStyle
04/04/24 9:35:17 AM
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You dont actually want to know the answer to that. It requires work and dedication. And we all know how much the terminally online left despises those things.

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1337toothbrush
04/04/24 9:36:35 AM
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Plumeofdusk posted...
Anyone with half a brain should realize that Trump would advocate a scorched earth approach. It'd just be a smoldering ruin.
Anyone with half a brain should realize this is already the case. Here's an article from October of last year. It should be easy to imagine how things look now:
https://apnews.com/article/satellite-images-israeli-airstrike-destruction-gaza-4477db1cfc39f38ac6cfff55330a7635

SaikyoStyle posted...
You dont actually want to know the answer to that. It requires work and dedication. And we all know how much the terminally online left despises those things.
Work and dedication that is easily countered by billions of dollars and no amount of "vote blue even if poo" will change that.

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bigblu89
04/04/24 9:38:02 AM
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I see topics like this and I try to equate some of the reactions to what it would be like if it was a sports discussion.

It's basically like going online, complaining about your favorite team's relief pitching, and getting bombarded with "WELL THE OTHER TEAM HAS BAD STARTING AND RELEIF PITCHING!!! AND THEY CAN'T HIT FOR POWER!!!"

Ok... Great... That doesn't mean my team's relief pitching isn't bad.

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action52
04/04/24 9:38:52 AM
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WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...
You're expected to vote for him though. Say anything that remotely hints of not feeling comfortable voting for him and people jump down your throat saying "that's voting for Trump" like it's your fault the two political party system in the US is rigged this way and you're expected to just play along.
Well if you and enough people like you voted in primaries, supported candidates in local elections, volunteered to help in social causes, etc. then things probably would change for the better.

But complaining about how we're eternally fucked and can't do anything because of the two party system is a lot less effort, that's for sure.

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uwnim
04/04/24 9:39:06 AM
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Tanthalas posted...
Its possible (even likely) that Biden meant he had already seen photos like those instead that he had already seen those exact photos like the person in the article assumed. Its a stupid thing to jump on.
Yeah. That's the sort of thing I'd think.

DarkAssassin89 posted...
Its mind boggling that we may actually have an issue where Im starting to wonder if Trump might have handled this situation better than the current administration. Thats how bad the situation and Bidens handling of it is right now.
If by better you mean joined up with Israel so Gaza no longer exists and therefore it is no longer a concern, then yes.

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Tanthalas
04/04/24 9:40:11 AM
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1337toothbrush posted...
Work and dedication that is easily countered by billions of dollars and no amount of "vote blue even if poo" will change that.
Thats just an excuse to do nothing.

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action52
04/04/24 9:41:03 AM
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uwnim posted...
If by better you mean joined up with Israel so Gaza no longer exists and therefore it is no longer a concern, then yes.
Yeah seriously there is no way Trump would have handled this better. It's just a question of how close Biden is coming to being as bad as Trump.

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action52
04/04/24 9:41:55 AM
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Tanthalas posted...
Thats just an excuse to do nothing.
Finding excuses to not do anything is 1337toothbrush's M.O.

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ReiRei89
04/04/24 9:45:59 AM
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DarkAssassin89 posted...
Its mind boggling that we may actually have an issue where Im starting to wonder if Trump might have handled this situation better than the current administration. Thats how bad the situation and Bidens handling of it is right now.
Only chuds and idiots think Trump would do a better job here. The fat fuck is on record for saying he plans to "finish the job" and wipe out the Palestinians once in power.

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1337toothbrush
04/04/24 9:46:23 AM
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action52 posted...
Well if you and enough people like you voted in primaries
You mean primaries dominated by democrat favorites like biden thanks to promotion by the party and their big media buddies completely controlling the narrative? You can tell that democrats are receptive to change when they come up with terms like "bernie bros" to silence opposition.

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ScazarMeltex
04/04/24 9:47:46 AM
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1337toothbrush posted...
I guess let the genocide continue? Is that the point of this post?
Trump won't stop the genocide. He'll accelerate it.

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TheGoldenEel
04/04/24 9:48:35 AM
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Tanthalas posted...
Its possible (even likely) that Biden meant he had already seen photos like those instead that he had already seen those exact photos like the person in the article assumed. Its a stupid thing to jump on.
this

Biden is handling this horribly but this is such a pedantic thing to try and do a gotcha over

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Hornezz
04/04/24 9:48:38 AM
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Let's stop pushing the myth that 'genocide' or 'more genocide' are the only options. It's not true.

There's also the option of Biden listening to criticism and changing his course. Either because he realizes it's the right thing to do, or because electoral pressure forces his hand.

But for some reason people vehemently oppose that third option and would rather keep shouting that that genocide is inevitable, and that people just need to stop protesting it.

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1337toothbrush
04/04/24 9:49:11 AM
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Tanthalas posted...
Thats just an excuse to do nothing.
No it's not, it's just being realistic. I vote in primaries, promote candidates I hope will make a change, vote for ballot proposals that further great causes, etc, but I'm not stupid enough to think I can realistically fight against billions of dollars of opposition.

action52 posted...
Finding excuses to not do anything is 1337toothbrush's M.O.
Your M.O. is to blindly support the democrat party chosen one and attack anyone who writes even the lightest of criticisms against your dear leader.

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DarkAssassin89
04/04/24 9:50:06 AM
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ReiRei89 posted...
Only chuds and idiots think Trump would do a better job here. The fat fuck is on record for saying he plans to "finish the job" and wipe out the Palestinians once in power.

I dont think Trump would do a better job. My point is that instead of being 100% sure about that though I am only like 98% sure at this point. This may be the first time ever I even had a 2% doubt. That is how bad things are going.

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andel
04/04/24 10:12:58 AM
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Chicken posted...
vote for that guy that changed his name to Literally Anyone Else because thats who we need. The election shouldnt be choose your flavor of dictator.

how exactly is biden a dictator? people are wild and will say anything even if obviously false

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Cemith
04/04/24 10:22:01 AM
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It's always "why are the Democrats so bad" and never-

"Why is the GOP so overwhelmingly monstrous and evil."

Only Democrats are on the hook to change, that's so wack.

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Doe
04/04/24 10:22:43 AM
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Cemith posted...
It's always "why are the Democrats so bad" and never-

"Why is the GOP so overwhelmingly monstrous and evil."

Only Democrats are on the hook to change, that's so wack.
Joe Biden is president of the united states

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Cemith
04/04/24 10:23:17 AM
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Doe posted...
Joe Biden is president of the united states
Yep. And should be pressured to change.

Still voting for him, though.

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Garioshi
04/04/24 10:25:21 AM
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bluezero posted...
I guess let the fascist dictator in? Is that the point of this topic?
Biden has all the leverage in the world to end this genocide and he refuses to use one iota of it. If he loses the election, it is his fault.

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1337toothbrush
04/04/24 10:27:11 AM
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Cemith posted...
It's always "why are the Democrats so bad" and never-

"Why is the GOP so overwhelmingly monstrous and evil."

Only Democrats are on the hook to change, that's so wack.
Which party do you think would be easier to change to do what we want?

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Doe
04/04/24 10:27:17 AM
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Cemith posted...
Yep. And should be pressured to change.

Still voting for him, though.
Agreed

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Cemith
04/04/24 10:28:38 AM
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1337toothbrush posted...
Which party do you think would be easier to change to do what we want?

Are you kidding?

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McMarbles
04/04/24 10:28:54 AM
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Tanthalas posted...
Thats just an excuse to do nothing.
I think this is the main issue.
Gaza is the current excuse to disengage with the process because youre sooooo morally pure and soooooo above it all. Theres always an excuse. If it wasnt Gaza it would be he didnt make college free or he didnt legalize weed federally.

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cjsdowg
04/04/24 10:28:59 AM
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Cemith posted...
It's always "why are the Democrats so bad" and never-

"Why is the GOP so overwhelmingly monstrous and evil."

Only Democrats are on the hook to change, that's so wack.

Because the dems are the only ones trying to convince good ppl to get over dead childern we are funding. Republicans that is the selling point. Republicans being evil is what their base wants. Dems base dont want that. So hell at least Republicans are doing what there base wants.

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cjsdowg
04/04/24 10:30:39 AM
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McMarbles posted...
I think this is the main issue.
Gaza is the current excuse to disengage with the process because youre sooooo morally pure and soooooo above it all. Theres always an excuse. If it wasnt Gaza it would be he didnt make college free or he didnt legalize weed federally.

Stop with the strawman arguments. We are literally talking about a genocide here and you compared it to weed. Really

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Torgo
04/04/24 10:31:57 AM
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Irony posted...
TIL Trump doesn't want to do this.

Trump and his creepy son in law have discussed how they want to develop Gaza as prime real estate once the current inhabitants are cleansed.

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Foppe
04/04/24 10:32:00 AM
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I mean, Ive seen starving children, Biden probably thought she would show one of those photos, this is a nothingburger.

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