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Super_Slash
04/01/24 2:39:26 PM
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It was still almost as hard to follow as it was in the manga. The fight is just a bunch of flashy shit happening all over, and the ending doesn't make a whole lot of sense either.

Also, Eren's breakdown over Misaka is just as stupid and character-shattering as it is in the manga too.
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ironman2009
04/01/24 2:41:09 PM
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Zeke Jaeger was right

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C_Pain
04/01/24 2:50:26 PM
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What didn't make sense to you?

And Eren breaking down is a tragic masterpiece. He doesn't want this but he's a slave to freedom. It's good to make this bad ass look like a pathetic sniveling loser.

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reincarnator07
04/01/24 3:45:50 PM
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C_Pain posted...
What didn't make sense to you?

And Eren breaking down is a tragic masterpiece. He doesn't want this but he's a slave to freedom. It's good to make this bad ass look like a pathetic sniveling loser.
On top of that, it's implied that he tried for ages to find a different way and this was the best he could do. Despite literally being an anime protagonist with crazy powers, he's not smart enough to do better. The attempted apocalypse that failed to actually change anything was ultimately his failure.

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Super_Slash
04/01/24 10:33:22 PM
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C_Pain posted...
What didn't make sense to you?

And Eren breaking down is a tragic masterpiece. He doesn't want this but he's a slave to freedom. It's good to make this bad ass look like a pathetic sniveling loser.
The entire fight was just a flashy mess.

And I'm not talking about his general breakdown, I'm talking about his "I DONT WANT MIKASA TO LOVE ANYONE ELSE =(" shit.
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ssb_yunglink2
04/01/24 10:40:43 PM
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C_Pain posted...
What didn't make sense to you?

And Eren breaking down is a tragic masterpiece. He doesn't want this but he's a slave to freedom. It's good to make this bad ass look like a pathetic sniveling loser.
Eren breaking down could have been good, but the way its executed is just really fucking bad. I could say the same for a lot of the final arc. Like theres ideas there that couldve been okay, but none of it flows together and its really messy

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LordFarquad1312
04/01/24 10:47:11 PM
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I haven't watched it myself, but I heard they changed Armin's line "Thank you for committing genocide to save us, Eren."

Good.

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party_animal07
04/01/24 10:58:30 PM
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Hot take: AoT peaked in the basement.

The outside world and the subsequent war against Liberio (and the world) wasn't nearly as interesting as the bread crumbs leading up to it.

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ssb_yunglink2
04/01/24 11:01:24 PM
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party_animal07 posted...
Hot take: AoT peaked in the basement.

The outside world and the subsequent war against Liberio (and the world) wasn't nearly as interesting as the bread crumbs leading up to it.
I think parts of the outside world reach some of the highest peaks of the series, but season 3 part 2 was just a string of incredible episodes so i wont even say thats a hot take

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ButteryMales
04/01/24 11:05:26 PM
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ignore this if you don't want to hear real world politics.

It's like this manga was an allegory for Israel Palestine genocide. The cycle of war and revenge was shown to never end in AoT. Pessimistic about the real world.
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Delirious_Beard
04/01/24 11:32:17 PM
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season 4 part 1 was incredible tbh

AoT just went completely downhill after the Rumbling, altho the ending is nowhere near as bad as the weirdos were saying it was

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spanky1
04/01/24 11:53:08 PM
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This show reminded me of Lost in that it was so incredible for a good while, but by the end of it I just could barely care at all.

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Kradek
04/02/24 12:19:10 AM
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Super_Slash posted...
It was still almost as hard to follow as it was in the manga. The fight is just a bunch of flashy shit happening all over, and the ending doesn't make a whole lot of sense either.

Also, Eren's breakdown over Misaka is just as stupid and character-shattering as it is in the manga too.

So what are the actual differences in the ending? Because I seem to recall that when the finale first aired manga readers were complaining about how the ending was changed, however if I'm not mistaken the author of the series said the anime ending was exactly what he wanted or pictured?

What about the ending didn't make sense to you (from the anime)?

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LordFarquad1312
04/02/24 12:23:36 AM
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Kradek posted...
So what are the actual differences in the ending?
LordFarquad1312 posted...
I haven't watched it myself, but I heard they changed Armin's line "Thank you for committing genocide to save us, Eren."



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Rharyx211
04/03/24 6:29:57 PM
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Had no problems with the ending. Went about exactly as I expected, except more main characters actually survived than I thought would, so that was surprising. I was really worried the ending would ruin the whole thing for me based on how manga readers talked about it, so I'm glad that wasn't the case.

Overall, it cemented itself as a solid A+ series from start to finish for me.

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pegusus123456
04/05/24 4:10:44 AM
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Kradek posted...
So what are the actual differences in the ending? Because I seem to recall that when the finale first aired manga readers were complaining about how the ending was changed, however if I'm not mistaken the author of the series said the anime ending was exactly what he wanted or pictured?

What about the ending didn't make sense to you (from the anime)?
Someone already mentioned them slightly changing Armin's line, but I think the bigger deal was the post-credits. I looked it up just now and it doesn't convey time passing nearly as well. It goes from Mikasa dying from old age to Paradis being bombed to hell. The only indicating that time passed is that the buildings became skyscrapers. So it very much came across as them getting like fifty or sixty years of peace, then being obliterated anyway.

I thought it was a solid ending. It was not the peak of the show, but I don't think it ruined the entire series or anything. It ended as well as I could expect.

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Kradek
04/06/24 2:33:13 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
Someone already mentioned them slightly changing Armin's line, but I think the bigger deal was the post-credits. I looked it up just now and it doesn't convey time passing nearly as well. It goes from Mikasa dying from old age to Paradis being bombed to hell. The only indicating that time passed is that the buildings became skyscrapers. So it very much came across as them getting like fifty or sixty years of peace, then being obliterated anyway.

I thought it was a solid ending. It was not the peak of the show, but I don't think it ruined the entire series or anything. It ended as well as I could expect.

Damn, there was post credits stuff? I didn't even know about that lol.


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TendoDRM
04/06/24 4:01:16 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
Someone already mentioned them slightly changing Armin's line, but I think the bigger deal was the post-credits. I looked it up just now and it doesn't convey time passing nearly as well. It goes from Mikasa dying from old age to Paradis being bombed to hell. The only indicating that time passed is that the buildings became skyscrapers. So it very much came across as them getting like fifty or sixty years of peace, then being obliterated anyway.

I thought it was a solid ending. It was not the peak of the show, but I don't think it ruined the entire series or anything. It ended as well as I could expect.

I mean, I've only seen the anime and thought it was perfectly clear there were hundreds of years that passed. Skyscrapers don't just happen overnight.

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Kradek
04/06/24 4:04:33 AM
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TendoDRM posted...
I mean, I've only seen the anime and thought it was perfectly clear there were hundreds of years that passed. Skyscrapers don't just happen overnight.

Well modern skyscrapers take 2-10 years to build. Obviously I don't know how to compare their building technology and capability to ours, however once Paradis made contact with Marlean technology it did drastically change their society in a relatively short amount of time. Using that example it doesn't seem like it would take hundreds of years to get skyscrapers unless the technology for skyscrapers didn't exist until a few decades or so before their destruction within those centuries.

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pegusus123456
04/06/24 4:10:30 AM
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TendoDRM posted...
I mean, I've only seen the anime and thought it was perfectly clear there were hundreds of years that passed. Skyscrapers don't just happen overnight.
I think you misread me. The anime makes it pretty clear that a substantial amount of time passes as the city slowly builds up and is ultimately destroyed. But in the manga, I think it shows Mikasa's funeral and the immediate next panel is the city being bombed into oblivion. The only indication that a substantial amount of time passed is that it went from quaint late 19th century/early 20th century city to a modern skyscraper-filled one.

Kradek posted...
Damn, there was post credits stuff? I didn't even know about that lol.

Also, it kind of makes it seem like Eren had the right idea, that Eldians would never be free or safe as long as non-Eldians exist, and even after losing their titan powers the rest of the world just proved him right.
And I think this was one of the big issues people had with it. The fact that it didn't clearly indicate how much time passed makes it seem like they were wiped out because they were Eldians.

With the anime making it clearer that it's a much longer timespan, it fits more in with the message of war being an immutable part of existence. There's every possibility that no one really cares or even remembers the Eldian prejudice anymore and the island was bombed for entirely new reasons.

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Kradek
04/06/24 4:14:48 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
And I think this was one of the big issues people had with it. The fact that it didn't clearly indicate how much time passed makes it seem like they were wiped out because they were Eldians.

With the anime making it clearer that it's a much longer timespan, it fits more in with the message of war being an immutable part of existence. There's every possibility that no one really cares or even remembers the Eldian prejudice anymore and the island was bombed for entirely new reasons.

I guess that really does depend on how long it took for society to change. Hundreds of years? Sure, people can forget. We see in our own reality that the further we get away from the Holocaust and the more that the people who lived through it die we see an increase in denial, however the main cast themselves would only be in their 70s or so if it was 50-70 years, and there are kids much younger than them living through these times, so if it was that short of a timeframe then it would be logical the world power that ended them thought "they almost wiped us out once, now we must wipe them out for good to make sure they don't finish the job".

After all, part of the anti-Eldian propaganda wasn't just because they had scary titan powers, it was also because Eldia had a history of warmongering and conquest that led to the rest of the world despising them. Eren only reinstilled that fear for the survivors.

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pegusus123456
04/06/24 4:19:38 AM
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Kradek posted...


I guess that really does depend on how long it took for society to change
I looked at the anime epilogue again. Aside from adding more transition scenes, the skyscrapers also look a bit more futuristic than contemporary ones. Obviously it'll vary, but I can easily see it being another hundred years after Mikasa dies of old age. So roughly two centuries at least after the Rumbling. I'd even go so far as to suggest three.

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Kradek
04/06/24 4:21:53 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
I looked at the anime epilogue again. Aside from adding more transition scenes, the skyscrapers also look a bit more futuristic than contemporary ones. Obviously it'll vary, but I can easily see it being another hundred years after Mikasa dies of old age. So roughly two centuries at least after the Rumbling. I'd even go so far as to suggest three.

Then yeah, it's possible society largely forgot/got over that period and inevitably went back to warring over resources/bigotry.

Though Marley did hold a steady grudge for the 110 years or so that Paradis was trying to seclude itself and have no interaction with the rest of the world.

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